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Hey, I was away for a bit. The cables are not really outdoors anyway, I drilled a hole in the house right where the camera is mounted so the cable goes directly in the house. I recieved the DC power Adapters and I just ordered the Baluns. These are the ones I got, Hopefully they are the right ones, if not let me know, I just ordered 5 Mins ago, I may have enough time to change the order. I also found this cable in Canada I was about to order, I wanted to check with you first though. Brand New 500 Feet Network Cable -- High Quality. ? # New high quality Original Standard Ethernet Cable, CAT 5E(Enhancement) # Connects all the hardware destinations on a Local Area Network (LAN). # Ideal for use with 10 Base-T, 100 Base-T and 1000 Base-T networks. # Color: White # Length: 500 feet /150M # Compliance Standards: EIA/TIA-568B Category 5E

Thanks for clearing that up, That's what I thought, it COULD work, just not well, then tomcctv answered NO like it was a ridiculous question lol. I was thinking that it might hold me over for now if I made the 60ft cable into a 10ft cable. For one camera I only need an extra 10 feet. This way I'd be running 70ft instead of 120ft, with less distance to travel it maybe be enough with a stronger power wire. I have 4 scrap cables now anyway, something to play around with if nothing else. I fully intend to go the Cat5 & balun route, I was just confused there for a minute. You mentioned you don't buy your cables online, are the cat5 cables all pretty decent quality or do they come in ****ty quality as well? If I wanted to buy a bulk roll of cat5 locally, is a video store the only place to go? Appreciate the help

ok, I understand how to make it work. I just don't get why one option will work and the other won't. My cable is made out 3 copper wires, but if I shorten the cable to make a 10 ft extension, using the same type of wire, it will not work. Why won't it work if this is the way it was bought? I can make my own out of cat5 cable and regular balun adapters, and that works. But if I buy the balun adapters with the ethernet port & premade Ethernet cables, It will not work. Just doesn't really make sense to me, but as I said, I dont understand electrical or wires etc.. lol I'm going to order the Balun connectors tom mentioned and already have the DC jacks otw, once they get here I'll just cut the ends off an old ethernet cable and make I can get it to work before I order a big roll of cable

I found a shop that sells the video cables. For a 100ft Video cable with BNC ends ist $75 +tax, thats with no power wire. Thats kind of expensive. So just to be clear, the Cat5 is for video only, then a separate power must be made as well right? Sorry guys, you must be getting frustrated with me by now lol

You mean something like this, and use the ethernet cable as the video cable? http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAT5-BNC-To-RJ45-Converter-Video-Balun-for-CCTV-Power-video-audio-PTZ-Camera-/230938057621?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item35c4fb1b95 That seems like an easy fix, I have a 100ft & 30ft Ethernet cable otw right now so I can setup a router in the garage. I'll try to get one of those things to try, I'm heading into town tomorrow. I'm still slightly confused about the 2nd pic I posted. Right after the BNC connector & where the power wire was cut, I have that little box, it then goes into the same thing on the other end then splits into a BNC & power, just like the pic above. I cut the wire in the middle and have the Red, Black, & Yellow Wires. So I only have those 3 wires for both power and video already. Would it not work if I was to replace those 3 small gauge wires with heavier gauge wires, but keep the original ends? I thought that was the whole problem to begin with?

I just realized that those 3 wires are for both the power and and video. About 5" from he connector the 2 wires go into a small box and go into 1 wire. Now i'm confused again lol I guess I could just cut it after that little box and extend the cables from there maybe. Hopefully I can find a quality dealer so I dont have to deal with this lol

Thanks for your efforts, I appreciate all the great help! I actually ordered the identical Male & Female DC Adapter Plugs a few hours ago, not from the same seller though. I hate to order another cable and have the exact same problem. I'll take a look around some shops tomorrow to see if I can find anything before I do anything else. I'm not very good with wiring, I can usually manage the basic's, like making a power wire is simple enough and checking continuity and that sort of thing, but I don't get the ohms and all the technical stuff. I'm still confused about the BNC cable. I read that it was regular coax cable like you use for your TV, then I seen some strange adapter that plugs an ethernet cable into it, plus a few other options. I just cut my BNC cable apart and it's not like the link you gave, thats what I was expecting, but all I have are 3 regular copper wires. Same size wires that were on the power end. I grabbed my small wire strippers to try and guess a size, the smallest gauge on them was 30 and it was way to big. This is my BNC cable, my power was the same except one wire was bare and one was coated. I'm thinking if I just get a big roll of 18 ga wire for cheap I can make my own pretty easily. I could probably even use the BNC ends I have by cutting down a few inches from the BNC connector and soldering 18 GA to the smaller wires.

Thanks for the help! I told the seller I wanted to return them, they gave me a full refund and told me to keep the cables. I cut the power cable to take a look at the wires and never seen a wire so small in my life. Each wire had 3 copper strands about the size of a hair. They had be over 30 gauge. I have a universal power adapter for laptops, I used the bnc end for the camera and the laptop end for power and the transfer between day and night vision worked perfectly. The image was kind of wavy though. All the other cameras have excellent quality. It's only for my driveway and garage, there has been alot of break in's & thefts recently. I don't want to go overboard. I only paid $140 for the whole unit so I can't really complain. I have a few rolls of 16 & 18 Ga wire I used for car wire harness I can easily make a good power wire. I didn't cut the BNC cable, is there any difference in the quality of those cables? I thought I read somewhere they are all the same. I was wondering if I could cut it and just make a 10ft extension and wire it back together. I want to do this as cheap as possible. I'm going to cut it now to see what I can do with it. They have good prices. I like the premade option, that is something I could use, as I need a different length for every camera. Are these quality cables? Is there a way to find out what gauge they are made of? They look the same as the ones I just bought off ebay.

Yes true, it would save the hassle. Unfortunately I don't live near a city, I live in a small town, closest city is 6 hours away. There is a "city" 30 mins away, with a walmart and mall and stuff lol. The source sells CCTV stuff but never had anything when I was there, they never even had adapters, I had to wait for some to come in. They might be able to order some in though, I will have to ask. Actually I just checked their website, I checked a few and they were "Online only. Not available in Stores"

This is the specs of the cable, does that mean anything? BNC MALE + 2.1 5.5 mm DC JACK BNC MALE + 2.1 5.5 mm DC PLUG VIDEO CABLE: 100.12mm Tin Cu. DC CABLE: 280.1mm Tin Cu. Od: 3.0mm http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110973443089&ssPageName=ADME:X:eRTM:US:1123 Is it the extra 60ft that is causing the quality loss, or the adapter? If I was to cut say 10-15ft of one of the 60ft cables and make up my own, would that make the quality any better? And If I made my own cables, is coax and Coaxial the same? Is there a different type or qualities I should use?

The system is good enough for what I need it for, so a simple work around would be good enough. I only need 2 camera's extended, and one of those is only by like 10-15 FT The 60ft cables that came with the system run awesome, day and night, except the one with the BNC adapter. I sent an email about the cables I ordered from eBay, they suggested the same thing about the power loss, I completely disconnected every camera and tried to hook up 1 camera with these wires and still the screen would go black when I shut the lights out. So that must mean these cables are made of small **** wire? Sorry, I'm no expert when it comes to wires. Would I only need to change the power wire? Could I cut the end off the original wire and place on the new 18/2 wire? Thanks

I have a 4 cam DVR setup. I only had 2 Cam's setup because the 60ft cables that came with the kit were not long enough for where I needed the camera's. I ordered a set of 4 60ft Cables off eBay and got them 2 days ago. I went to Radio Shack and picked up 2 BNC Female to Female cable connectors, then set the cameras where they needed to be. The camera with the BNC Connectors worked alright until night time rolled around, then the picture flickered with gross quality for a few seconds then went all black. Heres what the video looked like when I plugged it in to get a pic before it turned all black. (pic at bottom) I thought bad cable, so I swapped it out with a cable that came with the DVR kit and the video was back up but very grainy, like a snowy tv. The next day the pic was good again, only in the daytime, when the night vision kicks in, the video goes back to poor quality. I took the cable that I thought was bad and ran it direct from the DVR to the extra cam that wasn't hooked up yet and got a perfectly clear picture. As soon as I connect a BNC connector to these eBay cables they go all black. I tried all 4 cables and got the same results. I hooked one up direct again and set it up in the house to play with some settings, all seemed good, then soon as I shut the light off, I got rainbow lines across the screen and a froze pic of me shutting the light off, then the screen goes black. After testing some more, I noticed these cables run fine with light, then soon as the night vision should kick in, it just freezes for a second then goes all black. What do I need to get a clear picture? Do all BNC Connectors cause poor quality? Do I need a single length cable and no adapters for each camera? Are these eBay cables just straight junk? I'm Confused. Any help is appreciated.

I got the webmail setup through my ISP. They use the same in and out going SMTP Servers, I asked about the port they use, she said whatever you use as the default port? I tried 25, 110, 587, 995. I used the email as both the sender and receiver, I tried changing the receiver to my other emails. Still nothing. Is there any way to test if the settings are right without trying to set off an alarm? EDIT: I got That Net Failure working too breifly, I changed a bunch of security settings and it worked, then I started back tracking to see what setting it was that actually got it working. Now i'm locked out again. The Restricted Sites under the security tab is where the issue is I think, It's stuck on High, and won't let me move the slider at all. I tried to allow every option in custom but it still never worked. I tried restoring, changing resistry values etc and still nothing. Any one know if I can remove IE from Add/Remove Windows Components and re add will that be like reinstalling IE? I'm using Windows 8

No it does not. It has nothing to do with port forwarding. On their website, I see that you can log into web mail. THAT is what you want to setup, when you call. You want to open a web mail address with them, for starters. Once you have that account, you may be able to see other info you need, in the account settings menu. But once you set up web mail with them, you're getting there. Then all you need to know is their smpt server address. Is it mail.seasidecommunications. com, or something like that? Maybe smpt.seasidecommunications. com. They should provide you that info. Once you have the web mail address and the smpt server name, then you can try the different port choices in the dvr in port settings. That port number has nothing to do with port forwarding, so don't even get into that. Good luck with your progress. Thanks! I was trying to forward every port possible. I sent them an email asking to setup an email and they told me to call. I tried to call but their tech support closes at 10:00 Pm and i've been pretty busy the last few days. Then my hard drive just crashed so i'm in the middle of trying to recover that the last few days. But I think your email idea is what is going to work. I tried both gmail & hotmail on every port possible, and neither would work. I also tried full email and just the username. Thanks though! While i'm waiting to get ahold of them to setup the email, do you know how I can fix this issue? I can get to the login screen but when I sign in I get the Net Failure error. It was happening on my 3 PC's with windows 8, now it only happens on my desktop, all other PC's I can sign in without issue. I tried to find plug in's and adjust the active x settings, I can't find anything on google either. It's not really a big deal on my desktop, but if I try to sign in from somewhere else and run into the same issue, I'd like to be able to fix it.

Yes, I have tried every setting and port option I could possibly find. 25, 587, 995 etc.. none of those ports would open after port forwarding tho. Yes, I also set all the alarms in every possible option listed, I just wanted to see if I would send an email. When I open the software on my PC the alarm siren won't stop wailing, for video loss, video blind, etc. It would start sounding over the stupidest thing, I ended up disabling them all and I still get the alarm sounding, I had to mute it. But not getting any emails. Thank you! You info was very easy to understand. As I said in the first post my ISP was the main problem to begin with. It's a tiny local company in a small town in Nova Scotia, Canada. They only have maybe 7000 customers or so (They only have 2 tech support agents and I got the same guy everytime I called) When I called to get the router password they wouldn't give it to me. They changed the default Password so users could not change the settings. When asked if they could open a port they said no. I had to buy a wireless router and get them to bridge their modem/router combo, and of course they did they wrong and still couldn't open ports. After a week of troubleshooting I called back and got a different guy on the phone that said the Modem was bridged wrong the whole time. They are very hard to deal with, and dont want to help with anything like this. As long as you can get to google they think you should be happy. It's just been one thing after another with them, I'm stuck in my contract for another year though. I couldn't find it using that site or a google search. I don't even have an email with them or couldn't find a way to sign up. I'll have to call tomorrow to try and figure it out. I just sent an email asking for the info. Here is their website. http://www.seaside.ns.ca/net_home.html I just noticed it says they will host 1 free domain and setup an FTP, I know the DVR has an FTP option on it. I don't know much about that yet though. I should stay clear until I get all this figured out lol Ok, so basically all I have to do is.. -Setup an email account with my ISP -Get there SMTP Server & Outgoing Port (does this port have to be forwarded????) -Set it up with the settings I get from them -Then I can use my hotmail address in reciever to get the Alerts. Sounds so easy, but I bet I'll have a nightmare dealing with my ISP haha Yes, Your right about it driving you crazy, I had all the alarm options set to see if I would get an email and the siren was going off like crazy as I mentioned above. Once I get it working I can configure it. I work out of Province for months at a time, so I would like to have the option availble if needed. Butt... Over the last year there has been breakin's and thefts all over town from junkies (I live in a tiny town) My cars were broken into a bunch of times over the last few months and got cleaned. They broke into my grandmothers barn across. My brother got his cd player stolen. He went months with none, he finally bought a new deck and installed it the day before yesterday, he got up for work the next day and it was gone, And he lives on a different side of town. I got thousands of $$$$$ in tools alone in my garage, not o mention just dropping $12,000 in my car. If they got in there it would be like Christmas.