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What you are using is the web client, use the Remote Playback Server

Use the RPB clent, it caters for this function

Coops is correct,(I am sure i am wrong and coops will correct me but) the depth of field will change under low light, another thing to consider is that if you are using a camera with a removable IR filter then the distance to the CCD will change because the filter is not there, also the different wavelengths of IR light need corrected IR lenses to concentrate better on the sensor. I know there are a lot of cameras that remove the IR filter and then the imgage is better but out of focus because the distance between sensor and ccd has now changed, some cameras actually replace the removed filter with a dummy filter to allow for this correction and others can moved the CCD chip to set the back focus...even remotely. I really do not know why you all bother with it...I stopped using welding glasses and annoying ND filters when I started using the bosch camera's, they have a feature that simulates the ND filter and you do not need to use any equipment at all, for example you can remotely down the coax set the camera to Back Focus mode and the image will not change (well it does but it does not look all that different) so even in bright sunlight you can focus the camera in back focus mode and you do not need the extra set of hands, it is hard enough to focus a camera with two hands as it is, let alone trying to hold a stupid filter at the same time, it is a very handy feature and it works well. I have been to many sites where these cameras are instaled and not back focussed and all you need to do is swithc it into back focus mode and you can instantly show the customer how badly set up their cameras are for night vision.

Sorry if this changes the subject at all, but has anyone tried the I SCSI stuff yet?

Here is several ideas In the Geo system there is a facility to FTP, this is still images sent to a location for storage, I am not sure how many cameras can be told to do this, however I assume all of them can, so therefore you should??? be able to either collect these still images that are defined by the settings you set in the FTP IE 1fps etc, furthermore I would check to see if the FTP can be used as the hotline alert, if this is the case then you could use the I/O card and set all cameras to Hotline alert via FTP, this means they will all be at roughly the same time by pressing a button. Another option would be to make all cameras send email alert, I am not sure if you would get the resolution that you need from this (been a long time since playing with a Geo) but if the email is triggered by the I/O card and you set every camera in this manner then you should??? get 16 cameras sending a snapshot to an email, I am not sure if you could manipulate this to strip the images into a folder? If you are not concerned about resolution then you could simply take a screen dump of the dvr and individually cut each image out, but this would make the images rather small. The best solution I could suggest would be to use 16 video encoders, these can send images in large resolution on closed circuit, IE a button, they can send them to a folder on a network and can handle large resolutions and in fact can do this in several codecs allowing you to chose your resolution, it would also mean you could adjust your I and P frames accordingly to get the desired result, this solution however is going to be expensive to say the least, however you can buy encoders that take 8 inputs at a time so you may only need two of them but these usually come with HDD and are consideraby expensive because you pay for the redundancy features offered by this unit. lastly I am sure you could pay someone like Rory to write a macro (probably wrong terminology) in Active X to activate the "Snapshot" function in the web viewer on geovision and this would create 16 snapshots from the web client. I hope this helps in some way...and in no way have I tested all of this, however I have done the FTP thing.

I do not have the Ligos codec anymore, so I can not view it, anyone have a link to download it, it used to be free but I heard it is now charged...is this true?

Not if you use some of the newer cameras like the LTC range from Bosch, they do this for you and still give you the same image to focus with, they simulate the backfocus so that you never have worry about it, i threw my ND filter out the day this happened

check the "video source" option and also try pushing the "+" button incase you zoomed out, lastly are you recording audio?

I could not download and play the video (lack of codec), however if you do have a switcher involved or if you are switching your ouput from the dvr then you may have a phase issue. If your camera rolls then it could be that the power is not phased in turn, this means that if you have a certian length of cable for one run and then again a differnt length again, the sine wave will be at different points, peaked or troughed, if you are using 24V, then try to find the camera that has the problem and reverse the power connection for it (ie switch black and red over ONLY ON 24V) this may shift your phase back into sequence and it may be close enough not to roll, there is also a phase shift in most cameras these days. Without seeing the image it is hard to say, if it is only during certain times of day then it would be unlikely to be this problem and be more likely to be interference from something like an aircon etc!

there are several options, firstly you can take a 232 output from the POS system and then take that data into a POS overlay box, this puts the transaction over the video but is relatively useless. You can also feed the 232 into a data capture box and if your dvr supports it it can store the data so you can do minimal searches for transactions and missing items, but the reality is it is simply taking the info that gets printed on a docket so al you can search is what appears on the docket and in most cases much less. The most effective is to use a DVR that does electronic ethernet POS Journal conversion, this allows you to adjust gates and make changes to searching parameters and is much more effective, this requires an additional PC but it is very very powerfull because it allows the user to "close in" on the transactional problems faster.. for example.. lets just say you want to check all the "Open Department Sales" but you want to check between a certain time and a certian rand of product, you also want to see only the transactions that had voids and only the transactions that happened for more than 60 seconds and on top of that you only want to check one user operators log in and you want to only see the voids that are over $50. it is one thing to search for a "can of coke" and type in the word coke, it is another thing all together to use the POS as a true ROI tool so that you can manage staff and correct prcedural errors. POS allows ROI to occur and this allows the customer to spend more heavilly on the install because they are aware they are likely to see a ROI (return on investment), there is no return on investment for catching a crim (rarely anyhow) but there is if you reduce shrinkage.

I have installed many of them, we do not buy Auto track because it does not work well outside, Bosch havean excellent demo cd on it, but the auto track will really only work well indoors, it really comes down to what you consider working well!! If it gets everything then it is excellent but if you are not operating it and it picks up some movements tha you would not have had without being there to control it, then I say it works well. is it accurate... HELL NO, but if it picks up something you would have missed while you were away from the controller then I say it works well, but outdoors it is not going to work perfect or in high density areas!

I have to admit I use the Ganz, it is a little small but the loop through is great and the built in disty amp really helps

It is control room based software for remote streaming of geovision dvr's

I do not think it is another Nuvico.... I apluad anyone that goes to lengths to ensure their product is properly sold, this is what interests me is that this means only a select few, therefore only a few to compete against, plus you must be trained before the sale. I have seen proper text training materials with exams and seperated into hardware and software, this impressed me a lot and once I had seen the online intranet I was very interested indeed. I agree about the voltage regulator, it would be handy indeed especialy in your area, it also extends the life of the power supply. I am just interested in anyone that has info on the use of this product as it seems very well thought out! They do not ven let you use any particular HDD, from what I hear they have some sort of special arrangement with Seagate and they have port addresses already reserved as a standard for many network devices in the firmware. They do seem to know what they are doing with the POS angle as well, using ethernet and reading from journals instead of just taking a 232 dump. So anyone?????

Does anyone have any feedback on this DVR and the POS Suite... It looks good, has H.264 and built in UPS and good POS suite, you have to be certified to sell it, so interested in feedback!

All thier models have a built in UPS device, I thought that was a very good idea! You have to be trained and certified before you can sell their equipment, i found this a great idea...keeps out the cowboys, but I would like to hear some industry feedback on it though before going too far. They also have an Intranet with Macromedia online training etc, that was pretty impressive from the small amount I saw. Here is the website... http://www.marchnetworks.com I thought for sure you would know of them with them being almost a US product Cheers

What an interesting post, I thought I would add my view: I can see the value of IP and Analogue and more importantly Hybrid machines, the advantages that are clear for IP are that you can more directly configure your bandwidth, you can also remove your NVR from it's physical location and take it to another location on the same network, you can easily change a camera with a better compression chip and upgrade software and this is easier than changing a DVR board. I also think IP cameras can do better resolution at the cost of bandwidth and the ability to dual stream to several locations does make it a very reliable option. A IP solution is only as good as it's redundancy and it is in this area that I have seen very few good IP solutions. What happens when the network goes down? There are some box's that are IP Webservers with built in redundancy, but then you are only basically building a DVR at each camera and increasing your cost. Not every site can be trenched, try doing it across a road or try cabling 12klm at an airport to control a PTZ, the IP cameras can have the protocol sent on wireless ethernet and then they can be moved later. Hybrid machines allow you to connect your local cameras and stream in a few extras, you may want to stream from your house to work for recording purposes, it is entirely possible that you might have a chain of stores that all only need one camera and then have a main office with 16 cameras in it, this can all be done on one box, streaming 16 remote sites and connecting 16 local cameras, this allows the saving of 16 DVR units so there are benefits to cost as well. IP cameras can go on existing networks, so sometimes cabling is not required as much, Imagine doing a shopping centre and running hundreds of cables instead of 1x fibre network, the cost difference can be amazing. IP is still new...when DVR was new it was expensive as hell, the reason was you had to pay for the development of the product, you are doing the same with IP now! I personally prefer standard DVR's and more so Standalone DVR's especially those with built in UPS devices, the more your company grows the more support you need to do, there is a lot more support in IP than there is in analogue and this means unless you are structured correctly you will not survive.. My thoughts are that a lot of analogue type installers will fall away once they have to change to IP, because they will not have learnt enough about IP and will have to subcontract. I do not think IP is anywhere near worth the hype at this stage and nor do I think it will be, until the bandwidth is available to afford to stream 16 cams or more from several sites to one location, this will mean security companies can become more like SAN places and charge for the connection. All businesses require you to be dynamic and although analogue companies will try to make it hard for IP (standards, licences etc etc) they will not stop them, the fact is that storage gets smaller every day (in physical size) POE is everywhere almost, and there are very few buildings not pre cabled with ethernet. With storage onboard the camera for redundancy and the ease of install I can only see a future for IP and not Analogue and as soon as the bandwidth is readily available you will see massive investment into the industry. I just hope Microsoft stays out of it!!!!

Actually, I am sure everyone knows but some may not..so please excuse if you already do...however, You can always demo any geo software including webcam, from the same machine that has the card in it, when i do a demo I connect to 127.0.0.1 and then can show the webcam or any other application even without a netwrok...granted though it does not represent speed, but at least you can show them how easy it is to configure and use!!

The despatch server is for deligating where the video data will go to, for example you may have several Geocenter sites and therefore several ISP's to go through, the despacth server is usually on a higher grade connection and it polls the center sites for connectivity, if the site is overloaded and can not take any more connections or if it is down it can buffer it to another site. You will not have too many issues with bandwidth if you stick to solid state motion detection...IE use the GVIO relays in conjuction with an alarm to activate the streaming, this can also be latched via an alarm panel.. An example would be that you put your pincode on your keypad to arm your alarm, this would cause an closed circuit on the GVIO board, this then tells the software to log in using your account user name and password to the center site and shoul also be used to set your schedule for night time recordings, entering the PIN again will disable the connection. I would imagine the reason you can not connect is because you need to create the account first in the Center V2.. it is not unlike an alarm monitoring station, the customer does not simply connect, first it needs to be programmed in... make sure your account user and password match both on the Center V2 and the DVR. My suggestion is to (only for demo) run it on one box and use a twin view video card for testing... you can easily set your dvr to connect to the Center V2 by making the DVR connect to 127.0.0.1 (local host) then you can wire into the I/O board and try it out without having to run between two machines. You can stream on alarm,motion,ftp or constant, the last option is going to chew your bandwidth to bits!!!!

does the camera have a slider bar with Peak settings, I know some high end cameras allow you to set your peak light level......no not dc level...peak settings therefore your brighter images are toned down...

Just to change the subject I want a trendy signature like that!!!

I have a site that has two buildings 300 meters apart, I would like to know any products that would allow me to have a line of sight ethernet connection that is reliable between these two points, as I will have a DVR in each site. How reliable is this process and what things can effect it, weather??? etc is there an advantage to running a trench, I have seen units that state they can do 30 miles, but I do not know what to believe? Cheers in advance!!

As I am sick to death of suppliers telling me their product is the best I have arranged for all suppliers to send me samples for testing, I have promised a report on the dome cameras in return for the loan of their equipment. I would like to know what parameters other than the obvious to look for and to place in the report, could anyone please advise on anything I may have overlooked Ease of Install Voltage 12/24 360 Gimble Vandal Resistant or Not Vandal Resistant Range Of Lense Type of additional mountings Dip switch options Test monitor outputs Resolution Lux Rating Warranty S/N Rating Sample Picture of standard picture Sample Picture of Test Chart Sample Picture of BLight scenario Sample picture of night scenario As I do not own an osciliscope...nor can I spell it... is there anything else I should look for in my testing?

I actually wanted reasons to use Full Bodies instead of domes, I hate using dome cams as they do not give as good an image, but that is not a good enough reason to tell the customer

Yes all will look at the same conditions, well as close as I can get, there is a room here where I can take a BLC shot infront of a window and then close the blinds for night ability as well as look at an oject on the wall with straight edges to test reolution as best as i can and also on the back of Vlado's book is a resolution chart, however it is not ideal as it is so very small. I can not do a true thorough test as I do not have the time, however it should be enough to get a rough guage! Can anyone tell me good reasons why to use full body cameras instead of domes, I prefer full body but customers think they are ugly, need technical reasons...... Thanks Guys as usual!!!