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It is a shame you need a Standalone as I agree with all other posts above that you will not find that feature in many Standalone devices, you will only find it in a Web Server or a PC Based System. The Geovision Control Room Software will handle this with ease, you could allow the system to stram video on alarm activaation or when UPS device is activated, it can record off site and even has a GSM server built into the unit, the best feature I saw when demonstrated was the two way audio. The ability to automate a warning sound that is played from offsite really would send the creeps up any would be thief, quite obviously you will need a camera to cover the DVR so that you at least get a good stream before the thief smashes the DVR, but the control centre version that is free is an awesome way to have extended backup.

I agree with you completely, I can not tell you how many times I have had to go out to a networked CCTV site to find that they simply didnt cater for any headroom or were not using the correct equipment, it is even more common to not consider the maximum number of cameras on one NVR server and it is almost stupid to have wholesale companies selling "unlimited" camera connections, because it simply is not possible. Bottleknecks are usually caused by bad design and I NEVER use an existing network if it can be avoided, it really is not that hard to set a seperate network up, therefore I ALWAYS recommend that it is run on a seperate network. As for multiple connections this can definately be an issue, however if correctly multicasting this can somewhat be eliminated to an extent and I have seen several DVR's now that use a TWIN DVR policy to allow a workstation to take some of the webcasting load. I strongly recommend webservers with local recording capacity (hdd) this way if a network is congested or fails it can send the data at a later time, most good NVR webservers can also detect congestion and adjust streams accordingly, it is recommended to use a dual streaming device that can connect to a switch that can alarm output when congestion is detected, this can then activate the device to record locally or send the second lesser stream through either hardware or software notification. I am not a huge fan of I.P. solutions, however they have several major advantages and the main one being that they are portable, therefore you can move your control room at any time that you wish, they are also much easier to upgrade and they can stream with several codecs at several rates to several locations and can be individually set up. I.P. is the future just not quite yet!!

I heard they really SAX and that they are hard to aDRESS they have an awesome buffer and are good at getting your HARD DISC to DRIVE very rapidly. Make sure you keep an eye on the temperature, use the MONICAring software or make sure that your fans BLOW very hard. I have had no RELATIONS wiht this product however it does leave you with a warm fuzzy feeling after using it. It captures very fast indeed and SWALLOWS all the information quite quickly although the bottom half of the machine has a very large BANDWIDTH. Version 1.1 does not work well with version Wife 1.45 and after used it sometimes stays running when it really needs a minimise button. An option to run the network driver in promiscuous mode which would allow the systems hardware probe feature to be much more useful! Apparently the earlier versions of the clinton dvr have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. You think they would have fixed such a stupid bug by now. To make matters worse, the uninstall program for Clinton 1.1 doesn't work very well leaving undesirable adressed traces of the application in the system. Clinton 1.1 provides no option as to the installation of undesired Plug-Ins such as Lawsuit 55.8 and Pay Off Beta release. Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day. Clinton 1.1 software seems to have a problem with resources and refuses to work in conjunction with certain programs as Dignity 1.43 and Respect and Honesty 6.234. The program seems to run very well with Denial Version 6.2 and Public Humiliation versions 4 and 8.2, it is backwards compatible with versions Spank The Monkey 4.7 and Your a Good Girl Arent You version 7.22 Luckily though the software is still very popular in the US and although it is old and expensive and cumbersome it still performs very well with limited motion detection, however the 2 way voice activation no longer seems to be a feature.. Hope this helps

Have a look at the Bosch Website http://www.boschsecurity.com bosch took over Phillips so that may be why you cant find it, if you can post a image of it, I might be able to help.

If you are just connecting one computer to you DVR and you have nothing else on your network then set your DVR to IP 10.0.0.2 Subnet 255.255.255.0 Set your Computer to IP 10.0.0.3 Subnet 255.255.255.0 Then it all should work.. If you want it to be able to be accesed outside you will need a router and you may need to port forward some ports. If you have other things on your network then the settings will be the same as the first example however, you must make sure all the other computrers have different numbers (last digit)

I am most certainly not an expert but: Although most good I.P. webservers will allow you change settings for I Frame's and frame skip, it would be very rare to find that kind of setting in a standlone DVR which is the section that this post was made in. I agree, and have seen many networks crash due to MPEG2 video streaming at maximums, I only just found a company that builds high quality network switches desinged (would you believe) just for CCTV use, they do not have problems when data is fully streamed to the maximum and have all the settings for advanced mulitcasting etc. I only use Cisco where I can but when you need a few of these babies you can easily be more expensive than all the other equipment combined (and so it should) you do have to be very careful with the network gear you use and now I only use gear ready for POE (even though you can buy plug in devices). A LOT of people only ever calculate the number of cams then work out a stream size and they think this is all, what about streaming to another redundant box, or the fact that somoene will want to review while those streams are happening or even FTP perhaps. If you want to stream live and review then there is a lot more traffic involved. Network webservers are much more suitable as they can "Dual Stream" and this allows the ability to limit the bandwidth it also allows cams to be set to change streaming sizes at times when certain bandwidth intensive things will happen IE backup etc. I agree that MPEG4 can be actually BIGGER in file size, especially on a moving PTZ camera, if any of you can do both compressions on a PTZ you may want to compare it because all the reference co-ordinates have to be sent and this takes up file size.

I am not sure I understand... what more complicationa re you after...on the Panasonic almost every option is covered in the keyboard and Bosch is just liek puching the buttons on the actuall machine, therefore everything you can do on the dvr can be done with the keyboard

I just use Panosonic or Bosch DVR's if I want to implement this kind of function, they have a universal keyboard that controls the DVR and screens and all functions as well as PTZ but can also control a Matrix if needed. So if you go for one of those DVR's it is simply plug and play!

I would be careful using any device that switches the signal on a LCD, a quad will provide a constant signal but a switcher will break between pictures, this break can sometimes be seen by a LCD screen as a loss of video and then it will scan the other connections it has ...like DVI, XVGA, SVGA etc etc, resulting in an eternal loop of searching for an input and loads of black screens. My advice is to buy 2x proper LCD security monitors, these have two Composite BNC connections and loop throughs on them, this means each camera can have it's own channel on each monitor as you have two per monitor, and because it can be terminated and balanced you will not need a disty amp and if you need 2 cameras at once on a single screen then use the picture in picture option. However if they can not push buttons to change cams, then I agree with the above method, however you will waste 2 inputs and therefore make half your screen void of picture and inturn that will make your two inputs small, you can only change this by pressing the quads buttons, but with only one quad, you can only do this at one location. A matrix would be the best bet, but I assume you wont sepnd that much money, using standard CRT you could buy a monitor with a switcher built in and at least two seperate channels.

There are many products that will allow you to do this, the problem is not inthe keyboard but the DVR, the keyboard can use ASCI or CLI commands to handle all of the functions of the dvr. When I install a DVR I wire a analogue montior to another location and one to where they need control then I use a keyboard controller that will handle every function on the DVR as as well as switch between views on monitos, like a matrix and it also does all the functions, the beauty of this is that the dumb security guy has a keyboard and a screen, from there he can burn, change views change settings etc, but there is no PC there, no network traffic and he can still control the PTZ's etc and several DVR's at once if you loop through.

It sounds a lot like you have a data collision, I have never used a Desa before (I believe Bosch does not even make them), but I imagine that it must be similar to the other Bosch DVR's. The most common reason that the camera would spin would have to be wiring in a star topography rather than in a straight bus and not looping from one to the other (you said you did this), the next most likely would be having several terminating resistors instead of just a single one at the end (once again you said you did this) the third would be that you have all the PTZ' coming from the one I/O port, there should be several ports (where the data is connected to an I/O card usually) and I have seen this many times, try to put each ptz on different ports IE not all wires touching together. Fourth most likely would be that your 485 converter is faulty (this is of course unless it is inbuilt in the DVR). The fifth most likely would be the addressing of the cameras. Sixth most likely is that the fibre data modems are not doing their job, simply check with a multimeter when moving the keyboard and look for voltage changes..these drive the motor and should be different for every direction. The Bosch PTZ's can be switched to Pelco mode, so try doing that, they can be controlled by Bilinx Tool as well just over the video cable, so you could try that to test if it is data that is your issue. I have used heaps of these domes and the only time I have seen what you are talking about is when I was forced to wire in star instead of bus and only happened when remote software conflicted with local control causing packet data collisions.

Did you work under Zina?

Software version... it was a feature until everyone hated it

$1.50

If you are going to test Geo systems before a build I would suggest you purchase a 1 in 16 out distribution amp! this way you feed one camera into the amp and get 16 camera outputs and can test each port.

That's awesome Rory!!!

There are some versions of Geo that will reboot.....the software....if no cameras are connected, they fixed this..welll err changed this FEATURE in later versions, but you need to disable any cam inputs your not using and you must have at least 1x camera feed!

You may want to take a look at the Bosch XF camera it can run 100mtr on Coax, this way you do not need UTP equipment, they also have a 32Ch and 24ch DVR which may help with this job.

Wow, i can not beleive how poor all those shots were...for the extra $$ I would choose a Panasonic or something ...gawd

For this kind of application we usually use a surface mounted wedge housing, bit ugly though but very strong..hardly aesthetic

Here are my some thoughts on the differing compression options. Motion JPEG (MJPEG). Principle All pictures in the video sequence are complete and JPEG-compressed Pros Any quality and resolution at any frame rate Simple to encode and decode Low latency License free easy to store, manage and use Cons Not a true video compression standard Consumes bandwidth even when no motion is present No support for synchronized sound MPEG-2 Principle Based on MPEG-1 compression Extends with higher image resolution and quality Adds new tools to achieve better compression Pros Real video compression (i.e., makes use of temporal redundancies) License free Supports higher resolution and quality Cons Limited bit rate, resolution and image quality Vulnerable to information loss Introduces latency Complex to encode and decode Frame rate fixed to 25 / 30 fps Even more complex to encode and decode Requires license fee for encoding and decoding MPEG-4 Principle Based on MPEG-1/MPEG-2 compression Adds new tools to increase coding efficiency Targets a wide range of resolutions, frame rates and bit rates Adds object-based compression and coding of synthetic audio and video Pros As Per MPEG-2 Extremely versatile and flexible Adjustable frame rate Cons As Per MPEG-2 A large number of profiles and levels (i.e., two MPEG-4:s are not necessarily alike) Requires license fee for encoding and decoding H.264 is a combination brainchild of the MPEG Group and the VCEG group and is a very high compression codec when people say that H.264 is actually MPEG4 they are somewhat correct. The ISO/IEC MPEG-4 Part 10 standard (formally, ISO/IEC 14496-10) are technically identical, and the technology is also known as AVC, for Advanced Video Coding H.264 is a high quality video compression algorithm and is suited for all types of applications with different ranges of bit rates. H.264 compressed video data can be stored inside AVI or OGG files with the option of saving the file with or without the audio data

Heaps of them about these days. IFCS Bosch Inspector +

There are more than plenty of example gui's to take reference from, but my suggestion is thta you keep in mind that it is often handy to use one button to do several things or havea hidden panel that can pop out, this gives a clean looking interface and takes fear away as attention is drawn only to the area you need them to concentrate on.

Yes so DVR 1 is: 210.244.168.12 (operating on port 80) (I bet someone will be stupid enough to try to connect to that) and DVR 2 would be 210.244.168.12:81 (operating on port 81)