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I can get em even cheaper but who would, you need a proper array if they are to work for more than 10 Mtrs and then they are so obvious, I am with Rory all the way Extreme make the best ones I have seen, however you can buy very lowlight cameras and cheap yard lights that would be much cheaper and less obvious.

Ganz are about o release a day/night version of the dome

Geovision will work fine on an Athlon CPU the only thing you need to worry about is making sure that it has a SIS chipset, the problem is that most are NFORCE or VIA and these do not work with Geo, also there are heat issues with Athlons, if you use good ventilation I can tell you that it will work fine, I have done many Athlons, but I would always prefer the cooler P4 or Celeron machine. Besides that the P4 actually performs better. The reason that Geo say the 250 and 600 work only is because these cards use one chip only and therefore do not require the hint bridge chip which has compatability issues with VIA chipsets. Remember when there were no compatabililty issues a few years back, that is because we only had 25FPS machines which require 1 chip only and therefore no Hint Bridge.

I think DVS is DiViS and I have tried their cards, they are not as good as Geovision, I have not tried many others, Geo arent cheap but they are crammed full of features. If you send me the link I will look closely at it for you.

As Rory has mentioned above, Extreme CCTV make some amazingly robust cameras, where are you located I am in Australia, it says you are from the land of Oz, does that mean Australia? As for Extreme's range, they are great but not cheap, it would be more cost effective to just mount the camera in an environmental housing, you can mount them in a heated one if you are concerned about the snow, hell you can even get them with wipers on the front and they arent all that expensive either, If you use the right housing then you can have any camera in there you like. Snow = Glare therefore a bullet camera wont cut it for you (No Auto Iris), In all seriousness, the word quality and robust does not go with the word cheap! Simply put: if you want it to last dont buy cheap gear, there are a lot of products claiming low light but most high res chips in Colour cant handle it unless you pay the money for a DSP Digital Wide Dynamic Camera (which mind you I would strongly suggest) I sell these for around $650 Australian and if you go for a varifocal lens then it wont matter too much where you put the camera. One thing to note will be your white balance settings, if you have snow then there will be a lot of light reflection and a lot of scene whiting, you may get away with a Day/Night camera but If you can afford it go for a Wide Dynamic Cam. I know I will draw some flack for this comment but: IR does not really work, unless you pay big bucks, it is hardly justified and will only work for B/W and small areas, you would be better off with the Day Night cam. PC based systems are by far the best for networked operations and allow for easy upgrades and I highly recommend them, however if you cant use computers much or want more stability a standalone device will serve you well. IP67 rated cameras can be hosed down without need of a housing and you can get some from Ganz that have low temperature ratings and Varifocal Built in Lenses. You should be looking at around $550-$600AUS for a Day/ night option, fully kitted with lens and heated Housing and around $850-$900 for a Japanese wide Dynamic with the same options. The best suggestion I can make is only buy Korean or Japanese, stick to sony chips and only use PCI cards if you know computers. Geovision makes the best of the PCI cards that I have seen. Hope this helped.

Man you need to move to Aussie land... less taxes. I would not say that all standalones are more expensive, I can buy a complete standalone DVR for the price of a Geo card. Just takes a long time to find a good supplier.

What is the companies website? I would like to know more of Allnet?

I tried to install your software, howver the first time it appeared to have a missing codec and I only got black pictures, then I tried the other one you recommended but it did not install cleanly and then it wrapped itself around my Sys32 files, which my system did not like at all. It crashed my computer and I had to do a system restore. I will admit though my system is a little different to most so it could just be me. Do they have simple webview yet?

Everyone wants, fast big pictures!

PC Mostly necause of the features, however standalones are much more stable.

Send me your resume

Gee extreme has some nice looking stuff, some well put together gear. Bet its pricey though!

Ok will try again... hay do you have ICQ, would be easier than posts? I have XP Pro, tried it on XP Home as well and 2000, all the same, checked active x controls, only thing I havent done is reboot, about to try that now... will download the other one and try it out. will let ya know

What was the bounce notification.. can you please post it up here so I can see the error? I have pretty tight security on my mail server, you don't have any attachments wiht it did you? I did recieve 1 email with the I/P. but as I said it connects but blue screens only!

Joel, I didn't think that there were factories manufactoring DVR cards in Ontario, are you the manufactorer as you state or the distributor?

Very cute

Mate its not working, connects ok but cant see any pictures, Perhaps I need a codec that is not on my system? Any pointers?

I will email you to get the password and I/P..

Cheers!

Basically the firewall is before the port forwarding (well not really) but for discussion purposes it is. What the firewall will do amongst other things is only allow a certain range of I/P addreses to connect to your router, for example you might only want your home I/P address to connect to the router therefore anyone else trying to hack you can not get it. (it is alot more complicated than that). Basically if you turn your firewall on or if it is on by default then you need to allow the same things as you have done with the port forwarding. To be honest I always use the firewall, however unless you have sensitive material on your network, you may not want to. If you use Outlook and have a client database then I strongly recommend it, or do not connect your DVR to your internal network. Hope this helped!

Vlado Damjonovski has written a book called CCTV it is my bible and a great investment, howver it is rather technical. http://www.cctvlabs.com/Books/book.html It is well worth a look, if you decide to order, tell him you spoke to me and he should look afer you.

I have never used a Lynx router before, however I would imagine that the principles would be the same. You have obviously paid for a static I/P from your ISP and this is your external window to the world. If you can imagine that your Street is the internet, your House is your router and your Garage the computer and your Car the DVR. Your street can let access to many houses, however yours has a specific address, this is the address that the rest of the world can get to you with and it is where to find you, this is your Static I/P address and is your EXTERNAL network to the internet. Your house has a main door but it also has a number of windows, back doors etc etc, these are the ports on your router. When you want to protect your house from intruders you activate the firewall (lock all doors and windows) you can still get in the front door but only if you have the key to do so. Most remote application software will use a TCP port and the manufactorer should be able to tell you which one it uses (in other words, which window to use to get in). However every time you go in through any port or entrance you are still entering the House (router). When you use the remote software you are trying to connect to another device on your INTERNAL Network, you are trying to get to the DVR (car). What your Router does is act like a butler for you, if you enter the house from the window(port) then the butler knows that everytime you enter this way you would like to go to the Computer (Garage) but if you come in the back door (another port) then the butler knows that you would like to go directly to the DVR. This is called Port forwarding, you can set your Router to forward the port that the remote software uses to direct you to the car (DVR). You need to make sure the Car is parked inside however and at the same spot all the time. This is called fixing your internal I/P address, Microsoft invented some I/P numbers that will work only inside a network and will not work outside of it, you can use this to Fix your Internal I/P for both your DVR and your computer, you then tell the router to forward all enquiries on a certain port to the fixed I/P address of the DVR. If you do not do this then when you are sitting elsewhere connecting to your Static I/P at your router it will try to send you to where it is told to or where your I/P address for the DVR was last time, however it may well have changed. In short you need to configure the router to port forward the port that your software uses to the DVR and this will be in the port forwarding section of the router, if your device has a built in firewall, you will need to do the same with it. Most routers allow for remote configuration, so if you get stuck mate email me and I can do it from here for you. digitalsecurity@westnet.com.au

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I agree with all the posts above, It is not about quality of picture it is about the time it will take before it breaks, you wont find anyone in this forum that has security business selling those type of cameras unless they are a new business. I am betting your friends system is not that old? Sometimes you get lucky, however from my experience the cheaper the camera the less time it lasts and the less quality the picture. In security you are relying on being able to prosecute the person you catch, and believe me they are indeed getting much smarter, hence the need for faster frame rates, digital technology and most importantly digital watermarking. This is the most true statement ever " In security you get what you pay for ".. Ask your self this much..."What type of car do you drive?" "Why didnt you buy a cheaper one?" Probably because you needed it to be reliable! One other thing, always buy a system that will allow you to upgrade and make sure you can plug more cameras in at a later date! I hope this helped.

You have some very usefull information on that site... Once again... unless you know someone who has tested a cheap card I would stear clear of them.