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Vendoma vs. Geovision and the Who's Who in the Biz
cctvexpert replied to cctvexpert's topic in DVR Cards and Software - PC Based Systems
Chance-i has an SDK for the capture card itself but with what they have you would have to write from scratch. If you look at the Vendoma product and look at the signatures on the drivers, compile properties on the executable, the .ini files and the .dll header info and it all comes back to them. As far as them not having anything different tell me that after you have worked with it. I have tried at least a dozen different board in the last 3 years and so far this is the only one that does what its suppose to. What's new is it works, unlike the Geovision where there are lists of known issues. I won't toot their horn 100% till I have more of them in the field but so far until anyone demonstrates otherwise I am sticking with this one. I will continue to look for something better as any good businessman should. As far as the number of programmers what I can gather is they have 300+ consultants in New York and do not have any idea who is assigned to this or other projects. They won't say. I know they do alot of work for Government agencies because I keep seeing their name pop up everywhere, which in some ways is a problem. They are bidding against you. They have an integration division, which they don't like to talk about because its a conflict of interest with its customers. Put it side by side with a Geovision and there is no contest. Not in the same league. The only other thing I don't like about the product from the board side is that when they sell their finished branded product they use Embedded XP and people have told me it flies. Yet they will not give you assistance on making Embedded XP work on the boards they sell which I guess is to protect their other market. All I say is they aren't cheap but the support is worth the extra money. If you sell a system for thousands a couple of hundred shouldn't make a difference if you don't have to go back and service it. That was my issue with Geovision was having to go back and service. Also their system is the only one so far that I have not had a problem with when I ran terabit solutions. You should keep your eyes open though because I here there are actually in China of all places some good technology coming along and in the next year or so they will be catching up to the others. I don't see how a Vendoma or other U.S. based companies will be able to compete when things get tougher, although they say this is only a small part of their overall business. Time will tell. -
It depends on specifically what products you are looking for. Then I can try to give you some ideas.
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Vendoma vs. Geovision and the Who's Who in the Biz
cctvexpert replied to cctvexpert's topic in DVR Cards and Software - PC Based Systems
Vendoma also has a bunch of stuff they don't show on their website which they are in beta with - you can ask about becoming beta tester. I only found out by asking alot of questions. They said they don't like to talk about product until they are in full release because of potential bug issues. They have H.264 boards that are incredible. I tried one and I have never seen video on the remote side as smooth and as crisp. Packet size was ridiculously small also. Problem is still does not have alot of functionality. They said they use them for videoconferencing and are experimenting with surveillance application. the stuff is amazing. They also have a network matrix switcher that allegedly is going to work in place of the pelco with some advanced compression method. They have a lot of interesting stuff coming out of there but not sure if most of them are affordable. Their finished products are incredibly expensive. I think these guys are more R & D then anything else. -
Vendoma vs. Geovision and the Who's Who in the Biz
cctvexpert replied to cctvexpert's topic in DVR Cards and Software - PC Based Systems
FYI- one of the divisions of their company does nothing but graphics. They have a full time staff for that and if thats the case I am sure they dont keep them busy with just one project. If it was Chance-i they were using they would have at least made some attempt to make a different GUI, since they do the same for all their customers. But then who knows, strangers things I have seen. My experience with Chance-i was I was unable to get 16-channel audio to work and with Vendoma I was able to, also which makes me believe its not the same. Also the audio was fully sync'd and not underwater in both record and playback modes, also something Geo and others as well as Chance-i have trouble with. -
Vendoma vs. Geovision and the Who's Who in the Biz
cctvexpert replied to cctvexpert's topic in DVR Cards and Software - PC Based Systems
I am very familiar with SDK and the changes I had them make for me are not SDK functions which give you basic controls. Also if it was Chance-i the boards would have the same components which they don't. I actually found them thru someone who has been dealing with them for a couple of years now and they made him his own board, with own features and interoperated with external devices that Chance-i boards are not capable of. All I know is the product works, its stable and the prices are competitive and the most important thing is support, as everyone knows these guys are the best. -
Vendoma vs. Geovision and the Who's Who in the Biz
cctvexpert replied to cctvexpert's topic in DVR Cards and Software - PC Based Systems
the website is www.vendoma.com as far as the GUI I have seen several GUI's that look very familiar. This is where I come back to that the software I believe comes from them. They have been able to make modifications for me that could only be done with source code. As far as Chance-i I am familiar with their product and not sure of relationship between the two my guess is Chance-i uses Vendoma software components. I was able to have my private label for me locked to my board so no one else can use and as mentioned they made me certain functions. Also I compared this board to others and it looks different. The boards that Vendoma sells appear to be one thing and the board they use in their products which has their name all over the components and the software appear to be their manufacture. They won't talk about who their clients are and relationships which I appreciate is professional. I did meet one person who said he bought cards from Comart and had Aventura Technologies (Vendoma) write software for them since Comart only sells board without software. These guys at Aventura are way ahead of the curve as I see it, which they attribute to the fact that they were in voice and video long before Korean board manufacturers decided to get out of making cheap VGA cards and jumping onto the DVR bandwagon. AV I think you are right about Pelco, which is another problem I found with Geovision as well as others who keep changing suppliers. VERSION CONTROL, NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY. -
try www.huntec.com they may be able to customize for you
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www.vendoma.com has 16 channels of audio
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Sunell is decent product. They are a trading company in China and source product elsewhere, so its not under their control.
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www.tvs-inc.com great solution but difficult people to deal with since Honeywell bought them last year.
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IDIS is one of the major factories in Korea but the box they build uses the Vineyard set.
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Have tried the Nuvico and its pretty good but you should look around there are plenty of solutions out there. Most of these systems are basically the same in the sense that there are 3 manufacturers of the "kits" ALogic Vineyard (I forgot the other but will follow up later) So this has spawned hundreds of manufacturers from China to Taiwan to Korea. In Shenzhen China there are now over 100 factories in the business in the last year alone. You can buy standalones for under $200 if non-network version and about $75 - $100 more for LAN version. Once you get into the more sophisticated ones that have multiplex and hot swappable then the prices increase several hundred dollars.
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Broadcasting CCTV over CATV
cctvexpert replied to anthor13's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
You need RF Modulation which can be connected at the input from the cable company into the building. -
I forgot to mention you should be aware there are many versions of SECAM such as MESECAM which uses AM sub, then you get into variations of vertical and horizontal. Its difficult over there as it is the stone age in many respects and lack of standardization.
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I am new here myself and find a lot of good information with respect to others experiences if nothing other than to commiserate.
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AV Consulting is correct, the biggest misconception is explosion proof is perceived as having to do with explosives when it solely relates to electrical issues. With respect to standards Iran and Iraq both are SECAM. SEquential Couleur Avec Memoire 625 Lines, 50 Fields, 15.625KHz line, Sub-Carrier 4.250MHz & 4.406MHz others in the Middle East are PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N