zikronix

You bought a Swann NVR for krikey sakes. More memory and a 64-bit OS I'll give you. But while you explore the Yellow Brick Road I'll purchase faster processors, more cores, faster drives and greater bus width while you tell The Wizard to start re-coding a 64-bit version of Blue Iris. I bought the swann because it was one of those...need it now keep wife happy things. now that its up and running....now i can go back and play! The swann has a very specialized processor rinning a tight ass version of arm linux.

This is good to know i will look at my settings again for the cameras...and may do some fine tuning.

Would not a 64-bit version of Blue Iris simply allow it to address more memory? What is the advantage of this when my dedicated BI server rarely utilizes more than 400MB of memory? 1) all pc based processors are x64 thats the native instruction set. 2) on average properly coded x64 applications run twice as fast as their x86 counterpart 3) moving from x86 to x64 allows applications to process larger chunks of data 4) memory x64 usually uses more but it can also address more. 5) stability (usually) 6) Amillion other things that you dont see All this and more comes down to less work and efficiency for the the processor and application. You can have an x64 os but if your application is coded in 32 bit, you are actually causing the processor to work MORE because it will be using the 32 bit instruction set. Not to mention, memory swapping and disk cacheing. There arnt many VMS out there that currently support 64bit but this will become and incrasing level of frustration, among users. Some argue that if everything you use is 32bit then using a 64bit os is essentially useless...I have a tendancy to agree with that. What good is a 64bit os and 16 GB ram or more...if your using the 32bit version of photoshop, which uses a legacy instruction set, that requires more work and can only address a max of roughly 3.8GB memory? There was a reason that in the 90s the company Alpha had the some of the fastest computers in the biz for unix and linux implementations especially for PBX type appications. And thats because of early early renditions of x64 technologies which all ties back to risc vs cisc processing from way back when.

The max the NVR will allow is 6122 according to its Settings. Normally one does not have access to the cameras settings from the swann nvr. An ivy bridge intel xeon 1230 quad core should be more than enough for the task of 8 cams at 1080P, I would asume. The problem you run into is a product like blue iris is a 32bit application. Which really limits the abilities of the product. If blue iris would use an x64 instruction set then we would be awesome!

Well the Swann NVR at 1080p 25/30FPS allows a max bitrate of 6144 and but defaults at 3072. If I go into the cameras of course I can change it manually but the nvr over rides it with its settings. Which is interesting becuase if I go into the camera config the camera is set at 1080p but the bit rate is @ 4096 @ constant. It doesnt give me a drop down...but I can type what ever the hell i want in that box. If I chage it to variable then a box lights up with "low, medium, high, highest" And this is why im thinking about building a super micro box with a quad core xeon running blue iris.

This is intriguing to me...because both swann and lorex state 240fps across 8 channels. Which in my epxerience i dont think is true...maybe ill fire off and record on all channels...and see what kinda video I get.

Well sharpness should defintily be cranked to 0. the noise reduction seems to do things different, at least in this camera...maybe its not as extreme as sharpness? idk Sharpness in a video sense is left over from old low res analog bull ****

I was looking at a 16 channel for 2(3200C or S) or 3MP(3300C or S) bullets with the 5216

I can do that....later tonight probsbly

I actually emailed that question to Tina at DSD a few times and every time she replies she changes the subject and tells me something good about this new NVR. I actually ask her why she nevers answers the questions I ask or if she can have someone technical to answer my emails. Gotta love it, lol. sounds liek a bunch of fishy nonsense!

The lorex and the swann are going to peform identical or almost blue iris with those cameras will probably also perform similar...except you might get more options. Like apparently blue iris has a movement matrix so you can fine tune your movement alarms.

Err yeah, I worded that incorrectly. I did see that it doesn't support PTZ in your OP, and I was saying that it would be a nice feature to have in general. The other thing that threw me for a loop is this new Dahua NVR5208-P. I was thinking that maybe getting that with 8 cameras would be a bit more, but would give me more functionality. You do bring up a good point that there is nothing comparable to this kit right now at this cost. I'll keep sleeping on it since we have until the end of May, and I'll hope they don't run out of stock too soon. The other thing freaking me out is the install. :\ The install is easy. Ill take some pics of what i did...and i think it worked out really well. the nvr 5208-p with 8 cameras will be more money for sure...im not sure how much more functionality you would get. i just learned some stuff about the 52xx series in the thread about it, and i guess its essentially the same as the 32xx series, with some software changes.

im just gonna stop second guessing my self and keep what i got... it works for my needs currently.

because the biggest NVR is 32 http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/nvr3204-3208-3216--2.html 32xx range is 16 way so they list max of the 16 http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/nvr3204-3208-3216--2.html those links are the same...im sure they were not meant to be. So then after 8 cameras in the 32 it would start dropping frames?

victor18...since you install, can you answer my question...are these indeed the same hardware? Not that im in the market for it...but i would like to know because if fo some reason i do decide to change from my paltry swann device i might want one of these.

The lorez doesnt support PTZ cameras...the swann version supports both the features above, I paid 1600 and some change for the swann with 8 cameras...and the reality is you not going to find a better deal than this costco deal. You could get more for your money...but its going to be more money! I thought about buying 8 of the cameras which is 1400.00+ alone, and building a box and putting blue iris on it which depending on your needs...and wants (two different things) could range from 500.00 to 1000.00 extra easy....then you got the issue of support, who do you call if something goes bad...newegg? The swann version is my first nvr...and i like it, but much like with anything i buy...i gotta second guess my self!

there is no dahua that can record 8 x 5mp but you have 3 logic geovision aver According to the one of the other post if i understood correctly this nvr is the same as the 32xx series with different firmare? If thats the case...how can it go from 120fps to 230 fps

It sounds like it cant though...if I read properly. Im new so I dont know.

so if ii under stand properly this new nvr is no different hardware wise (other than it has 8 poe ports) than their 32xx line. And its all software?

well this is an intersting bit of info

From a networking standpoint, it would be possible. You would need to put a wireless bridge on one of the poe ports and put another bridge on the camera...and that would need POE or an external adapter. The problem you might run into is the swtich on the nvr will see the mac of the bridge and not the camera...im not sure if this would cause problems or not. You could do this with two routers running dd-wrt, which would be great because they would be transparent!

I know what the swanns look like and how they look...I linked those hik, cause I thought maybe the internals were the same

yes we have been down this road.

Are these the swann cameras http://www.hikvision.com/en/us/Products_show.asp?id=5363

In the 2/3 years I think this will last me that 5mp nvr will be the "standard" and Im always trying to drink free beer. All in all it really came down to...I had to make a decision on a system really fast....I had been waffling for years. After the second breakin to the cars...it was pretty much. What is the best system for my money that I can have right now and have up in 2 days....and the wife is happy so...that's worth it right?