Boogieman

If you can technically secure the dvr then you can do the same for the camera, there is absolutely no difference. You never have to update the camera firmware if you dont want to as they are not exposed to the internet, only the NVR is. I think you have a basic misconception about how ip cameras and dvr/nvr's work if you think you have the ability to secure one and not the other. As far a physical security, IP cameras have the upper hand since you do not have to homerun the cameras to the NVR...therefore the nvr can be hidden anywhere on the network. It also makes its really easy to have two NVR's - one as a backup. Ip cameras as also available with SD card slots as a backup. It seems like you are going to need full support, my suggestion is to have the installer provide all the gear so they cannot blame any issue on your equipment.

Sorry but there is no basis to what you are saying. First support is great if you purchase from proper vendors. Second this irrational fear that you have about the firmware would be present in the DVR that you are using. Why dont you have the same concern about the dvr - its not a dumb device? If you are really paranoid, the cameras and NVR can be segmented on a virtual lan.

What exactly are you not happy about?

The second photo was taken from here - http://topcctvcameras.co.uk/sannce-cctv-review/ It looks like the same (or very similar) system for a similar price, so maybe the image has been incorrectly sourced? That image is 100 percent fake. The most cost effective way to deal with it is to return it. Look at ip camera systems... Get at minimum 720p cameras....1080p would be even better.

Please dont spam the forum soliciting business. It is against forum rules. OP, you can easily do this using an android device displaying the camera feeds on any monitor...

Please dont spam the forum soliciting business. It is against forum rules.

Probably a bad hard drive..remove the drive and see if it still reboots.

Your old system was made by hikvision, this qsee is made by dahua..both make good systems...you cant come to any conclusions based on a single experience....The new lorex systems are also made by dahua... I would buy the qsee system in your link, its on sale and a good value - worst case return it..thats the beauty of costco..

Why in the world would a restaurant need to playback images at 30fps...15fps is way more than enough (though the cameras can do 20). Its nice to see that you are now recommending at least 720p...before it was "D1 uses the same sensor"...4mp image will have more pixels per inch than a 720p image, that is a fact despite your claim that the sensor is the same. Maybe the user wants to cover more area with a single camera? Regardless, the OP can go on youtube and see that he wont be able to tell the difference between 15fps and 30. Then he can go to youtube and see that 1080p or 4mp is CLEARER than 720p. 4mp will be even clearer. With IP cameras the image is even better. When you show me a 720p image from a cheap camera that is as clear as that 3mp video AND covers the same area I will paypal to you $5000 US dollars. You can keep ranting and raving that its all the same, a video is worth a million words. We can see it with our EYES. Words have no effect. The only reason to consider 720p, would be for indoors if the place is low light, because of the improved night vision.

What kind of wiring do you have going to the gate? What type of cctv system? Might be a good idea to use some PIR motion sensors there to alert you of activity.

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Thank you. I'm noticing the night vision is just barely acceptable. We have very low passive lighting in the yard. I'm going to get the newer version of this camera and try it. And I may get an extra IR panel. Disable wdr, play with the settings. The best thing to do is add more regular lighting...use low power led bulbs...

get a 32 inch 1080p tv...pay attention to the power consumption numbers if you intend to use it 24/7...

As long as the new router is on the same subnet as the old router (and you can always set it), the new cameras will reconnect to the new router...in fact, if you use address outside your dhcp range, you wont have to do any extra setup as you would with dhcp reservation where if you replace the router you need to set the reservation again.

If you will be using all acti, why dont you call them and see what they say?

So now your recommend 720p? What happened to d1? Why in the world would an average user need 30fps? Yes as cameras improve the get better, its common sense. No I have for the longers time advocated 2mp and even 1.3mp in low light situations. Go back and read my posts. Now 4mp has surpassed 3mp in low light, SPECIFICALLY with these hikvisions. No one EVER said all 4mp is better. Its specific to this model . There is NO additional latency between a 720p camera and a 4mp NONE- it is quite obvious that you have NOT used these cameras. Any latency is less than a second and negligable. You keep harping on monitors. 90% of users here in the US have 1080p monitors you yes they can observer better images LIVE with a 1080p camera over the 720 you recommend. More importantly you are making an amateur mistake. The higher resolution allows you to zoom in after the fact!!!! This is what 99 percent of surveillance is used for! This simple errors evidences your BASIC lack of understanding of surveillance cameras. Further you fail to mention that with higher resolution you can get away with LESS cameras covering the same area by using a wider lens. Heat battery power? 720p run on the same NVR's and pc as the 4mp cameras Storage is dependent ONLY on bitrate not resolution. You are now simply making things up to falsify your point. Please stop lying to the end users here. ANY of us can look at our 720p cameras then compare the image to a 1080p 3mp or 4mp camera, how freaking dumb do you think we are. Please go out and buy one and test yourself. Here is a great example... In the good old days china camera scammers like sunny could lie to us and we would not know the difference. Come on, stop lying to us, this is the information age, its all out there for the public to SEE for themselves. Please answer this, have YOU ever compared an image from a 720p camera vs a 4mp camera. I am certain the answer is no. So sit back and learn something instead of trying to swindle us here.

this unit is so old its simply not worth your time.

1. Please stop making incorrect assumptions about my experiences and background with Network IP Camera equipment. 2. Since you refuse to so much as provide the brands and models of Network IP Cameras which you are making your statements about. It's not virtually impossible. It's impossible, to determine what sensors those cameras have in them. One would think you could understand that, as you continue to hurl your unfounded insults. When/if you decided to provide any more ("details") besides using words like "older" and "newer" then it would be possible to verify what hardware is in those cameras. Don Donny, if you would bother to read the OP and my posts, which you obviously have not, you would realize we are talking about hikvision cameras. The fact that you could not understand this speaks to your level of competence and knowledge about ip cameras in general and the hikvision brand specifically. A quick view of the hikvsion site will reveal the 4mp and 2mp WD models. Is your browser broken? You might want to higher a computer tech to get that repairs for you. I stand by my statement that you have no direct knowledge with respect to installing these cameras. Your "installation" experience amount to plopping down a few foscams on a windowsill via wifi. Unless you provide a link, that proves you have installed these or other cameras, your words are useless to me- see how that works both ways? The sensor model is completely IRRELEVANT, its all about the REAL world result that matters. You sound like a child doing silly SSD benchmarks...

I am not giving you any information. You dont deserve it. A quick view of the hikvsion website will provide information on the new cameras. How lazy are you? Its evident that YOU have never installed any of these cameras. Look, im providing real world experienced advice. I dont have to document my personal experience with a link. However, I have provided a link where a user directly compares the 4mp to the 3mp..what more do you want? Who cares about the sensor inside? The low light image is better and that was my point. I have personally seen the difference in my installs as well. I am providing REAL world experience with third party evidence to back it up and you are stuck on sensors and specs..very foolish indeed. Amateur is not an insult its simply a fact. You have very little experience installing cameras in the real world, and no experience at all installing these particular 2mp, 3mp and 4mp cameras. FACT. You are making rookie mistakes and assumptions.

its just as easy to setup as any other analog dvr...look at the lorex or qsee hd analog systems at costco as well..they are dahua cvi systems... you need to make an effort to review the specs yourself..if you want someone to do a comparison then higher an installer.

What are the camera sensors in the cameras you are comparing? Brand and Model of the sensors inside the cameras please? Facts not fiction please. Because it does matter. It's impossible to make blanket statements that all Network IP Cameras which say they are 4 MP will always be superior in low light compared to all 3 MP Network IP Cameras. This is because the sensor used in those cameras, can and does make massive differences on how they can handle low light conditions. While image comparisons are good. Camera sensor Brands and Models are better. Because it allows full camera sensor specifications to be cross referenced. Don Again, no one said ALL 4mp are better than 3mp..in fact in most cases higher mp cameras perform worse in low light you obviously have not been reading my posts. That is why inexperienced users who jumped on 3mp pr 5mp cameras without adequate lighting were sorely disappointed. 1.3mp and 1080p cameras handed low light much better. Please read carefully. What I said was that the new hikvision 4mp WD and 2mp WD cameras perform better than the older 3mp cameras in low light. You live in an abstract academic benchmark world which is typical of amateurs. I could care less who makes the sensor or what sensors is used. All I care about IS THE ACTUAL IMAGE QUALITY when installed and operating in the real world. You can have a great sensor with bad firmware or a bad lens. The spec sheet is irrelevant. Real world results are. Please reread my posts. Seems like in your haste to trash me, you misread.

I am quite against 3MP or 4MP or 5MPs, to keep coming on the market. 4MP cameras are using the same image sensor as 1MP cameras. They are charging more expensive than 1 MPs. They simply increased number of pixels, cheating on innocent CCTV customers. It may need a lot years to get 4MP true resolution-high fidelity, available in the CCTV market. I do not think it good to keep promoting 4MP cameras, in spite of the fact many of commercial monitors and large LCD TVs are quite limited to 1024 X 1280 resolution (SXGA). This is the a complete misunderstanding how how security footage is used. MOST of the time, the importance of high resolution is when zooming into the image AFTER the event has occurred. No one is being cheating, we are not stupid, a 4mp image is certainly clearer than a 720p image. I can zoom in more and get greater detail, that is simply a FACT. You can choose to ignore it but that doesnt make it go away.

If you want to use your old coax wiring then the hikvision TVI turbo is a good choice.

I am quite against 3MP or 4MP or 5MPs, to keep coming on the market. 4MP cameras are using the same image sensor as 1MP cameras. They are charging more expensive than 1 MPs. They simply increased number of pixels, cheating on innocent CCTV customers. It may need a lot years to get 4MP true resolution-high fidelity, available in the CCTV market. I do not think it good to keep promoting 4MP cameras, in spite of the fact many of commercial monitors and large LCD TVs are quite limited to 1024 X 1280 resolution (SXGA). Personally, I'm not so much against 3MP - 5MP network IP Cameras as much as those that make claims about how good or bad this or that is based solely on the X MP that are claimed to be supported ("Usually from a sellers page, alone"). Without any attempt or need to verify what hardware is actually in these devices. Including camera sensors, CPU's, DSP and so on. Sure miss the days where someone took the time to do a tear-down and get to the meat and potatoes of what hardware is used inside a Network IP Camera vs. only reading a spec sheet that the seller supplies. These days, it seems more about the "Deal". It's not important if the device can ever be updated firmware wise. It's not even important if one can really truly get X MP out of a camera. Nothing seems to exceed the need for the "Deal". Which amazes me, since generally these devices are used for security. Go figure! Don IF you would bother to read the links and review the photographic evidence you would see that they support the notion that the 4mp hikvision is better in low light than the 3mp. No one ever said that its because of the mp rating alone. Furthermore, I can tell you from personal experience installing BOTH the 3mp and the 4mp WD hikvisions that the 4mp is superior in low light. The new 2mp WD even better. I think its funny when a guy who promotes foscam vga mpeg cameras knocks someone looking for a deal...

dummy cameras are worthless. Dont waste your time. A professional cable runner can run cable with almost zero damage to walls. It pays to hire someone who knows what they are doing. You dont have to run each camera cable all the way back to the NVR, thats the beauty of ip cameras and network cable.