Boogieman

I have talked with a lot of people about motion detection and they have all told me that even $2000 cameras still have problem with false positives when it comes to motion detection. So any form of reliance of motion detection is off the table as far as I am concerned. A camera that can be triggered via a door sensor will be 100%, so why would I even consider anything that would be less then that. I agree that wifi can be untrustworthy in some case, but In my case it has never failed me. If it becomes a problem the solution would be to use the existing power source as the Ethernet through the use of a powerline product, instead of running a whole new Ethernet line. I currently have two wide angle camera installed in a crisscross pattern and they do not give me complete coverage of the area I need to see. Just for conversation sake. What exactly is PIR? PIR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_infrared_sensor you will not get any false alarms...unless you have pets.. the camera posted by cctvman requires a dvr or dvr card... good luck finding a standalone wifi camera at 200 with ptz and alarm in. (for your door sensor)..that is also stable and reliable.... you might want to try a cheap foscam ptz, (lots of folks mount the indoor ones outside just under and eve...its junk and will probably die quickly but at your price range....)K. Or go with their outdoor model..keep in mind that you don't need the alarm in on the ptz, you can attach the sensor to a cheaper indoor camera so you get the alert.... What cameras are you currently using?

Heres the deal, wifi in general is not reliable, although it can be ok....but it will never be 100%...considering that you need to power the camera somehow, you may as well use power over Ethernet and run a single line. Motion detection, particularly on cheap cameras will produce TONS of false alarms from changes in lighting conditions.... You may want to get two cameras so you can see what is going on at all times. some cameras have built in pir motion detectors that will limit false alarms hikvision axis, av-tech make these type of cube cameras...

why do you need pan tilt? what is the application? Generally pan tilt is a waste...you are much better off with a wide angle HD camera....

i had a similar problem with my new Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW cube camera. There is no way to toggle the motion detection via the mobile app. I was able to get rob of ipcamviewer to enable the motion toggle (at least on the android app, but most likely implemented in the ios as well)...there is a defect in the firmware (I don't know if it affects the bullet cam) that sets the motion sensitivity to zero when you disable motion....so he set programed the app to set it to 40....hikvision needs to add this feature as well as the ability to toggle the PIR sensor on the DS-2CD2432F-IW cube. You may want to try ip camviewer and select Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW the firmware is the same as the bullet so the motion toggle should work...

its most likely some ir reflection because bouncing off the wall that is close to the camera. Or something else that is reflecting the light that we cannot see in the images...or as milkisbad said a bad seal. First you need to reposition the cameras so that there is nothing close reflecting the ir light. Try that first.... Here is a great example of ir reflection caused by the camera ir's bouncing off something that cannot be seen in the video image. http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=6667.0

buellwinkle's point was that its neither a solution nor cheap if the system wont work properly, wont capture useful footage and it will be in need constant repair. give some detail about the project....how many cameras at each location? what is type of area are you covering, what is the purpose of the system?

I have no direct experience with the analog systems but these have better specs http://www.costco.com/Q-See-8-Channel-960H-Security-System-with-1TB-HDD-and-8-900TVL-Cameras.product.100096884.html this one comes with lots of cameras... http://www.costco.com/Q-See-16-Channel-960H-Security-System-with-2TB-HDD-and-16-900TVL-Cameras.product.100089468.html

which ones. They don't make their own stuff... so it depends on the system. What does she need to monitor? how many rooms. Like I said you may be better off with 4 hd cams vs 8 analog. What is the purpose of the system? monitor employees or to be able to id an intruder?

im not sure about that 1k budget as op mentioned the bosch cameras that were probably expensive back in the day.... also using ip cameras with better quality and ordering a wider lens, op could get away with 4-6 cameras where he though he needed 8. For example starting with a system like this http://www.samsclub.com/sams/qsee-8x4-720p-ip-secrty-dvr-bullt-cam/prod10700191.ip?navAction= adding 2 cams you can build a system with 6 cams for under 1k.... the install would also be much easier to run cat 5 instead video and power...

get an ip camera system from Costco http://www.costco.com/Q-See-8-Channel-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-2TB-HDD-and-8-1080p-IP-Cameras.product.100069855.html http://www.costco.com/Lorex-16-Channel-Stratus-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-3TB-HDD-and-9-1080p-Cameras.product.100087415.html don't install an outdated analog system... these are the simplest solutions if you are not familiar with ip systems....

yes you need to set port forwarding up on the router you are connecting to...is it a modem router combo? model number ?

Prices have come down..the qsee system is good, it is a rebranded dahua system. Its from Costco, if there is ever an issue, or you just dont like it, no questions asked returns...You can also search through the posts here on hikvision, dahua, acti, cameras... you can build you own pc and use milestone, blue iris, exacq to record...tons of options... the link you posted is a hybrid system which you don't want if you are building new.... just because a website charges more doesn't mean you are getting a better product.

Prices have come down..the qsee system is good. You can also search through the posts here on hikvision, dahua, acti, cameras... the link you posted is a hybrid system which you don't want if you are building new.... just because a website charges more doesn't mean you are getting a better product.

The onboard video on the OP's pc is MUCH more powerful than the ati 6450 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+HD+4600 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6450 it has more than double the power. The ati 6450 would be a downgrade. In fact There is something else going on here... Then new intel HD graphics since sandy bridge have been quite good. No need for a dedicated card which sucks power...

You need to hook the pc up to a killawatt meter under load to determine how much power its going to use. Couple of things, first, the 4670k is haswell which have low power consumption. Do not over clock it. Do not use a discrete card, use the onboard video this will save lots of power. I have had i5 ivybridge systems measure 18w at idle and 35-70 under load depending on how much load I placed on it, but every system is different. You will have lots more options with software vs nvr, but nvrs are generally more stable and less power hungry... As far as life, I have a few systems that have been running Blue iris 24/7 for well over two years with zero issues...

if you are not technical and want a simple solution there seem be to a bunch of used Dedicated Micros Digital Sprite LITE's on ebay...

Max, you were right on. I has the wrong version of the firmware even though I used the link in one of the threads here. I got the right one and its working fine.

I have a Hikvision DS-2CD753FIE that came with version 4 of the firmware. I updated it to 5.1 via tftp (I got an update failed via the browser interface). The documentation says my camera is supported by 5.1. The update says it was successful, however, I cannot access this camera anymore, not via sadp or an ip scanner. My pc network settings are correct I set the ip address to 192.0.0.1 in the network adapter it should be picking up the camera as the default is 192.0.0.64. I am able to repeat the tftp update so I know the pc is communicating with the camera during the update. I cannot ping the camera either. In the past, a hard reset solved this issue with the hik bullets (2032). I tried resetting this camera via the "initial set" button on back but i don't know if its actually resetting. I tried both just holding down the button for 30 seconds and also holding the button with the power disconnected then connecting power (via poe) and kept holding it for at least 30 seconds....I am out of ideas...any suggestions? Thanks

Thanks, the earlier versions 4.0.9 and 5.0.0 don't state whether they support my camera.... I will try downloading again...

set the I-frame to be the same as the fps....see if that helps..

buster74985 is right on....additionally, wireless is not really wireless...where are you going to draw power from? If you run the cable properly you should avoid any exposed cable/conduit. But considering you need to screw the cameras into the siding, you are going to have to get permission from the owner. Best way to do this is to agree to leave the system in place when you leave. I would installed one or two poe ip cameras....indoors, get the Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW which has a pir motion sensor which will eliminate any false alarms.

Im assuming you want hd quality, see this post viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29772

MrJimmo, I think its important to point out that your lorex system was an analog system and the issues you mentioned are not applicable to the higher resolution ip systems from lorex.

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. you complained about hikvision....try that with any other manufacturer and you will get the same result...that's my point, there is no where to go unless you are willing to pay more. I for one, get my parts from aliexpress, and assume the risk and save the cash... your error may be a bandwidth issue..does it happen over wifi? or only 3g/4g....does the dvr allow you to set a lower bandwidth setting for remote viewing? also try completely uninstalling the app and reinstalling.

yes its 3 axis