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100% usage Processor i7 9 Hikvision IP cams
drocer replied to marizo's topic in Computers/Networking
Ignore the extra monitors. You can get an i7 and one consumer nvidia card to playback 64 1080p completely untouched, original streams? You have to be using something to dump extra information to display that amount of megapixels during that scale down. That's four 8K video streams of information being played back! Now with professional cards or SLI/dual SLI you can push things but not consumer cards. -
Faulty Zyxel PoE switch or Dahua Dome operating limitation?
drocer replied to f13dfx's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
If a 802.3af device needs more power than the spec (12.95W at PD), it's a 802.3at / PoE+ device that was not labeled correctly. That PTZ camera you have is rated by dahua as a 15W PD 802.3af; that's mislabled to me as the spec can't deliver that. I'm sure you've asked why did it work so long without issue? Chinese switch running a chinese camera operating at the end of it's designed spec; IR lights from your other cameras kicking on at night likely caused the switch to prioritize the ports in numeric order. Running a separate DC power supply or injector will fix your problems. A more elegant solution would be a 802.at/PoE+ switch. Either way works. -
100% usage Processor i7 9 Hikvision IP cams
drocer replied to marizo's topic in Computers/Networking
Scaled down. That's not what we were talking about here at all. We were talking about just "zooming out" but still at 1080p. You're dumping information to accomplish what you are doing. You might not feel like it but that's the only way to accomplish what you are doing. I'm not downplaying your work, just the way you're selling it. -
non-stop record with motion flags and search
drocer replied to jamangus's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Off the top of my head, it's usually either motion or continuous record. The timeline will show continuous recording, manual recording, alarm recording, trigger recording, or timed recording; it's usually not both. While doing continuous recording, it only shows the motion trigger being activated in the live view but nowhere else. AFAIK, that sounds like an extra $$$ feature. I think Axxon Next will do what you want for free. Takes a few seconds to turn it from "operator manned CCTV" to NVR mode but I know that it flags motion. Once flagged you can leave it as is, or type in what the event was i.e. "suspicious white van" for searching later. If you pay, you can skip the flagging and axxon with search past recordings for a defined area/motion/color/etc and display only that. Your best bet is to just sit down and try them. -
Faulty Zyxel PoE switch or Dahua Dome operating limitation?
drocer replied to f13dfx's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Or take 10 seconds to learn about PoE and don't waste money on cat6. You can't power a class 4 device with a class 3 PSE. -
Can't find Hikvision 2032 chinese model
drocer replied to TXGold's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Try contacting wrightwood. They sell through PM, they can provide you support through PM. viewtopic.php?p=242832#p242832 -
100% usage Processor i7 9 Hikvision IP cams
drocer replied to marizo's topic in Computers/Networking
i7 CPU + nvidia card + extra decoding hardware. No one is saying it isn't possible without extra hardware. Even the fastest nvidia card can't do that much at full resolution. There's some tricks to get that to work. 64 1080p30fps video at once, at full HD resolution, and doing it with software? Not happening. -
Faulty Zyxel PoE switch or Dahua Dome operating limitation?
drocer replied to f13dfx's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Who ever started this "full 15.4W port" thing needs to stop saying it. It's not even correct: 15.4W PSE only gives 12.95W PD. You need a switch that does PoE max (802.3at) for that one camera. e.g. ZyXEL GS1100-8HP That LTS 30W injector should work. FYI, the MAX you will get at the end is 25.5W. -
Resolution: 2048x1536 vs 19920x1080 Tradeoffs?
drocer replied to PeteCress's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
In that situation I like to take a 16:9 and rotate it so it's portrait instead of landscape. I wish rotation was built into hikvision firmware vs just that stupid mirror/flip option. -
100% usage Processor i7 9 Hikvision IP cams
drocer replied to marizo's topic in Computers/Networking
Sure, if all it's doing is recording... however if it's transcoding or anything more complex than shoving the footage to disk all bets are off. Synchronized HD playback is killer on CPU's. Not a chance in hell will that work. All 16 cams playing back at once? Maybe with 2-4 discrete GPU's added in. -
100% usage Processor i7 9 Hikvision IP cams
drocer replied to marizo's topic in Computers/Networking
If you find a fix for that please post. I just forced all cameras to substream for the live view; 2.1/3MP for recording. iVMS-4200 PCNVR auto switch bug iVMS-4200 2.0 auto switch works. How do we submit bug reports? -
Resolution: 2048x1536 vs 19920x1080 Tradeoffs?
drocer replied to PeteCress's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Aspect ratio as mentioned. FoV increases/decreases as you change. FPS changes increases/decreases CPU demand (more power used) of Blue Iris (poorly optimized software) The trade-offs are completely dependent on individual cameras and power consumption. -
help me with my nvr plan
drocer replied to reeves1985's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Not sure what was up with your setup, I just opened up 4 3mp cameras on my two year old i5 laptop. Along with 5 other programs open on my dual monitor setup and my CPU only sat at bout 10%, random drops to 1%, spikes to 17%. That is super lightweight, when I'm looking at 18 3mp cameras at once on an i3, while its recording many of those streams, and I'm only at 30% on a i3 I'm super pleased. Same cameras on other software will max out an i7! I do not use laptops as a default, just saying I've used a couple of them successfully with no problems so far, two years non stop and counting! No clue why it didn't work. Tried every setting. Hardware motion record was working fine. Exacq client was just too heavy given the price. There shouldn't be some hidden hack/setting/etc to get it lower. So YMMV. -
Sighthound Video Software
drocer replied to flynreelow's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
AFAIK: software motion record = high cpu usage (especially on HD) = absolutely terrible http://www.sighthound.com/support/cameras/ -
Build NVR around software/cameras vs upgrading hardware?
drocer posted a topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
I have a fairly new system sitting unused that I would like to use as an NVR; however, I keep seeing huge range of system requirements being reported. From Blue Iris needing an i7 to ACTi software working on atom based nettops. My requirements aren't even that much. I require nothing beyond a live view and motion records. 10-15fps live, 30fps motion record, no smartphone/remote, no advanced features beyond that 1-2Mp is fine 7-8 channel max 1. Build a system around lower end hardware. Looking at ACTi, hikvision, and xprotect go software. This would be a client with a monitor attached that does nothing else. 2. Upgrade CPU to i7-2600 (max my MB will take). $250+ Is it even worth it? I can get complete i7-4770 systems for $500-$600. -
Build NVR around software/cameras vs upgrading hardware?
drocer replied to drocer's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Exacq Vision Start Added: Axxon Next - full record with client open 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps 1-6% FREE = 16 cameras, 1TB storage, 1 server. iVMS-PCNVR - full record 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps 3-10% FREE = everything Xprotect Go - full record with client open 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps 8-15% FREE = 8 camera, 5 day record, 1 server, annual renewal of free license Blue Iris - full record 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps 45-55% $50 unlimited everything. High CPU usage due to software motion recoding only. Does not support in camera hardware motion recording. Honorable mention: Gsurf Pro. Worked with hikvision and hardware motion control but difficulty in using motion regions vs entire frame motion. Also noticeable lag to reconnect to cameras when switching from playback to live view. 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps 10-15% FREE Not worth it: Exacq Vision Start - full record with client open Exacq Vision is pretty terrible for paid software. Windows and linux versions gave the same result. Hikvision driver took 5-10minutes to randomly connect all eight cameras. ONVIF driver had no advanced settings. I'd rather use Gsurf Pro. 8 cameras - 1080p@30fps or substream@12fps 15-20% PAID everything -
help me with my nvr plan
drocer replied to reeves1985's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
I wouldn't call exacq lightweight at all--at least the client. i7-3770 15-20% live view of main OR substreams. Tried both windows and linux. I can forgive it if it was the 3MP 30fps main stream, but just the mjpeg 12fps substream? That is terrible. Hikvision camera support was terrible. ONVIF driver = zero advanced config. Hikvision driver = event errors and it takes 5-10min to successful connect to cameras. That is terrible for the OP. _________ Laptops and their compents aren't duty tested for 24/7 running, especially the low end. -
Need advice on new system
drocer replied to TXGold's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Try contacting the people who sold you the products. They need to provide the support. -
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/surveillance-purple-allframe-wd-purple-sata-3,26136.html 3yr warranty 32 camera support? Just looks like custom firmware for 24/7 writing. The 1 TB drive (WD10PURX) costs $89.99, the 2 TB drive (WD20PURX) is $119.99, the 3 TB drive (WD30PURX) is $159.99 and the 4 TB drive (WD40PURX) is $199.99. Just marketing?
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WD Purple NVR hard drives
drocer replied to drocer's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Found a better seagate analogue. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7258/battle-of-the-4-tb-nas-drives-wd-red-and-seagate-nas-hdd-faceoff/3 I just picked the one that was cheaper currently (Red @ newegg). -
help me with my nvr plan
drocer replied to reeves1985's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Memory isn't an issue. 4GB is enough for <10 cameras. There does seem to be a bug in iVMS-4200 PCNVR. Instead of auto switching from main stream and substream, it will constantly stay at full resolution once you enlarge it once. Disable auto switching on live view and force substreams. CPU processing should drop noticably. Recordings will still be a full resolution. You can even test it out with regular IVM-4200 (client and storage server are modular vs bundled like in PCNVR). Auto switching works fine in that. -
help me with my nvr plan
drocer replied to reeves1985's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
You can read my thoughts using an i7-3770: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=39387 As long as you don't use software motion record, these is no real demand on CPU's. Hikvisions do hardware motion record. Power usage, I found NAS and PC's use the same. ARM dedicated units do use less power but kill expandability. See post above for power consumption. Check operating temps for the switch before putting in attic. Also may sure the power budget is enough for the cameras. -
Need advice on new system
drocer replied to TXGold's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
OSX support is not going to happen. You'll get some kind of tablet/client/hacked together solution but not a 100% OSX one. If you really want OSX, get a NAS + camera licenses. ...and you bought the Xeon. That's still going to bog down if you view or playback all cameras at the same time. Unless you're running ftp/web/AD/etc also, home server is a waste IMHO. What's an NAS? I did buy the Xeon t20 server and will be using home server 2011. Won't xguard reduce camera resolution when playing back all channels at same time since it wouldn't be necessary to have full resolution when the size of picture will be much smaller? Ten if I want full resolution I click on a camera channel and the others go away and then I have full resolution??? Just trying to see how it all works. I am coming from a total POS a paid a lot for and have to totally replace. http://www.synology.com/en-us/ I assume you mean Xprotect. "Live view" - shows substreams. Double clicking/enlarging will get you the full resolution. Doing it again, will drop back to substream. Little to no CPU used for substream viewing. Playback - plays what is recorded. If you didn't record the substream also, it only has the full resolution to use. Playing back 10 2.1/3MP resolution videos at once is going to kill just about any x86 CPU--the xeon included. That's like trying to playback 10 bluray movies at once. The xeon might do 1 more than an i7 but it won't be all 10 at the same time. Even syncronized playback is hit or miss for me i.e. video starts when motion is triggered. 1-5 cameras going was fine, but if all tripped the machine would begin to stutter. Syncronized playback was a great idea but became worthless in practice as I could only playback 1-4 cameras at a time only. -
Build NVR around software/cameras vs upgrading hardware?
drocer replied to drocer's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Power consumption of i7-3770 NVR. Was worried about how much power this i7 would be eating running 24/7. I assumed it would be pushing 60-80W constantly given reviews of idle power consumption. Plugged in a killawatt device: Idle-- 26W 8 3MP cameras recording in background-- 38W Client / Live view open-- 42W It does shoot up to 40-60W in the client when doing playback, but drops back when done. I was going to go crazy cutting power doing additional things but may not even have to. This is as low as a "low powered" NAS. IIRC, regular ARM NVR devices use 15W; I'm pretty sure I could come closer to that by: Killing hyperthreading or two cores Unplugging DVD drive. Low powered HDD. (going to do this-saves 2W more) Total system draw with 8 camera's + PCNVR = 78-98W (IR for night) Total system draw with 8 camera's + ARM based NVR = 55-71W (IR for night) 23-27W delta. Depending on power rates that's $15-20 extra a year to use a PC over an ARM device. Considering I'm not locked into one camera manufacturer or software and can expand, I think it's worth it. -
WD Purple NVR hard drives
drocer replied to drocer's topic in IP/Megapixel Cameras and Software Solutions
Wow, really...?? 8W vs 4.4W? Seagate SV35.x: http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/consumer-electronics/sv35/#specs 4TB/3TB = 8W 1TB = 5.9W WD RED/purple: http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1369&language=1 2-4TB = 5.1W-4.4W 1TB = 3.3W WD spins down while the seagate stays at 7200RPM.