Don Stephens

I know the camera style. I'd need to see a picture of the inside of yours though.

In other words, hdcvi has less dynamic range than ip cam? is that what you meant? What if a good sensor with very wide dynamic range is used.. then the hdcvi would excel in contrast? There's a not of comparing them side by side yet until they start making image sensors similar in quality. Otherwise, your guesses are as good as anyone's.

Your assumptions are correct here. This could be a classic example of Sony (IP) vs. CMOS (CVI), but I can only show you what Dahua has to offer so far. The standard 2MP fixed bullet from the first image was an Aptina but the contrast is still a noticeable improvement over the CVI bullet.

Model? Brand? Picture? Anything?

2MP IP PTZ left, 2MP CVI right Both Dahua. This is an unfair example as to image quality as the left has a PTZ camera with optical zoom, and the CVI is digital zoom. It shows a little more of the contrast difference though. It's not exactly something you'd tend to notice unless comparing them side by side like this. "Faded" is probably the word that describes it best.

IP on the left, CVI on the right. Both Dahua and 2MP. You can really only see the change in contrast on the building across the parking lot where the cameras transition. It's a dull area as far as color is concerned. It gets much more obvious when you look at brighter colors. I'll see if I can figure something else out that makes it more apparent.

There's a color difference between their IP and CVI. The IP cameras appear true to color while CVI is slightly "grayed" for a lack of better word. Other than contrast, they look pretty similar. I honestly have no idea how to upload an image on the forum. If you want to tell me how, I can show you a somewhat helpful example.

This isn't just about connector compatibility. You're trying to mix two completely different signal types. But hey, if you think I'm lying, knock yourself out.

I already have ip cams and want to try an HDSDI because I want latency at live view to be near zero. I won't get dahua HDCVI because it is just a low HD bitrate version as explained in this thread. So what is the best HDSDI brand now with the best live view camera image? If not HDSDI.. what is another option for zero latency live view aside from D1/960H analog. There seems to be no other choice.. are there? I can't help with HDSDI. I'm willing to submit that someone out there is doing it right, but out of all the models and manufacturers we went through, we never found one that worked reliably. I would say that if you're determined to pursue HD analog, the only option I can recommend is HDCVI. I haven't finished testing AHD or HDTVI yet.

Incorrect. The camera is rated IP66. Here's what that means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

You cannot directly connect any camera to a television's antenna/cable port. Period. You're always going to need an additional piece of hardware. I don't know how to explain why you can't run 12V DC 700 feet. You just can't...because science. It's commonly accepted, so I don't know why you're under the impression that you can. You can consider running 24V AC with a down converter. That may get you the distance you need, but I would ask them before you try it.

You won't be able to hook this camera up to your TV directly. It's an HDCVI camera, and as far as I know, the only thing that's going to be compatible to get it on your TV is a HDCVI DVR. This is what you'd need from their site: http://goo.gl/InrCFe I'm pretty familiar with that camera; it's very decent for the money. Any other suggestions I can give you will just be more expensive and not really offer you anything more for your money. I'm also pretty familiar with 123CCTV as they're almost right around the corner from us. As much as I'd like to trash the competition, I know a few of them personally and they know what they're doing. The cable you selected isn't ideal as it's copper clad and not solid copper, but you'll still get a picture; it just might be slightly degraded. Buying solid copper cable would eliminate the possibility of that. Also, 700 feet for video will be just fine for that camera, but you're going to need to find power within 300 feet.

You'd need to purchase and HDSDI DVR card, and then install the card in your PC. I don't have any idea what kind of compatibility issues you may run into though, if any.

The camera you linked to isn't battery powered, so I don't know what that does to your plans. It's also not "discreet." That camera is actually the size of a larger dome camera. As far as looking positioning it to look through a window is concerned, you're going to be shooting yourself in the foot. The Infrared LEDs on the camera are going to reflect off the glass. This is going to present you with a big bright blob all over the screen whenever it's dark enough for those LEDs to flip on. If you don't want to mount a camera outdoors, then the camera will need to be absent any IR LEDs; this will obviously require a different source of light to view the area. Outside of putting together some sort of Frankenstein build, the only ready-to-use out of the box option I can think of right now is the new Arlo cameras from Netgear. They're about four times the cost of what you linked to. They are also going to give you the same IR problem though.

The 2"x4" work great for terminating ends, and the 4"x4" is nice if you want to coil up some cable in there with the ends.

Dahua's hybrids work very well, but you need to pay close attention to their "incoming bandwidth" capabilities and processing power. I've found that even the biggest and best models can only handle about 4-6 IP cameras.

There are a number of ways, but to make any suggestions I'd need to know the application and what hardware you already have. Some basic details about the TV couldn't hurt either (i.e. - inputs, resolution..) I can tell you with a good deal of certainty that the antenna input on the back of your TV is going to get you nowhere, especially not via the methods you've already tried.

If camera settings have been ruled out, I've seen outdoor lighting cause this kind of problem. On residences, it's usually a result of lighting from neighboring homes being inside the camera's angle of view. You may want to try angling the camera completely away from any lighting for a night to see if it make any difference.

What's your budget for the camera?

This is actually one of the few problems I didn't encounter. All of the manufacturer's HDSDI products we tested were as interchangeable with each other as SD analog hardware.

What's the lighting situation? Do you have lighting in the area or does the camera need to have Infrared?

For the amount of detail that you're needing, I don't know that I'd recommend anything other than IP cameras. Hikvision would be a good choice, or anything Dahua from CP Plus. You're probably going to have a hard time positioning the cameras properly in order to capture the plates. Personally, I've had better luck in the areas of image quality and longevity with Sony as opposed to DIS. I think you might be better off having actual license plate cameras facing the entrances to get the plates as they're coming in. That would probably alleviate some stress of having to think about how to get them when they're scattered all over the lot.

I'm glad someone beat me to responding to that mess. I'm still trying to understand his previous statement about how your network cables "have to go where your NVR will be."

Do you mean which manufacturer?

Do you have a picture or screen shot of what you're talking about?