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I see what you are saying now! I misunderstood. I thought for the $1000 they would also set up the exit button, (or a motion detector), the card reader, (or a push button device), and also run wiring that would go to the computer that would track users with a data base, and install the magnet, and contact for the reader. Are they pulling a multi cable in one sheath?

I am curious! What do the other quotes show? The question is not how much you are going to pay for it, the question is what do you get back over a period of time? I do not understand where you have a wholesale price of $230.00 and they are charging retail of $320.00. They can charge what ever price they choose to charge. Competition is what keeps prices within boundaries. I believe we all at one time, or another have dealt with a situation where we received a low end repair job, and then soon regretted that the work was performed by them. Now you realize the cheap value is no value. There are times you may have to go to another "professional" to fix the other's Mickey Mouse Repairs! Now you have spent your cash twice for the same repair. I do not know the company, and I would be a fool to speak either way against, or for the company. Other quotes will give you a better view of the big picture. The question is.. What is their reputation? If there is a service call how quickly to they respond? How do they take care of their customers? Cheap installation companies will only make money while they are installing. In other words if they stop to come back then they are not making money on the next job. They may be not be as helpful as you would like them to be, or they may not come back at all! Those that charge more, but perform at great levels of service are worth their weight in gold! They charge more, but they are not licking every penny to keep running the business either. There are those who charge too much, and never show up again, and never provide support. Those kind of bussiness cannot stay in one place for long as the reputation will get out real fast, and soon! Those that have been in the business for a long time are dependent on the local community for survival. Lose that customer base, and you are done! What kind of company are they? Where are they located? If they come in from another state then you WILL have problems getting them to come back for small issues. Are they listed with the BBB? Companies that work in a thin thread may not carry enough insurance, or have the right test equipment, or the right tools for the job, or they may not have the proper license. When things go wrong, then this would not be the time to find out the company is of no value! What happens if their tech falls off a ladder? Who is paying? Do they have insurance, or is this guy working under the table? There may not be workmans comp! I am not trying to talk bad about this company. I am trying to say they may not be the cheapest, but they may have the most value! Do the techs have certifications? There are some certifications that require you to spend $1000.00, or more for them. I bet they are running plenum wire! Plenum wire is not cheap! Another company may run different wire, but then that may be out of code! If there was a fire who is responcible? Watch the fingerpointing start! Anyone can turn a wrench, and install products! IDEA! You should buy the product wholesale, and you should install it yourself! It cannot be that hard can it? How long would it take you to do it yourself? If something is dead out of the box you can always RMA it back! Ask a friend of yours who runs a restaurant. Food cost is always in the 25% range (more likely 30%). Based on that thought then the 230 wholesale becomes $920.00! Yikes! $320 seems reasonable to a degree. What percentage were you expecting for a mark up?

The flash was created for models that may have been phased out, and I have not checked which models have this option. You can check with your vendor to see which ones they carry.

I am sorry that you have reached a stage that you feel that your input is not valued. What brought you here to the forum? What compelled you to help others? When was the enlightenment where you felt that your contributions were not helpful? I understand how you feel when you provide guidance to someone, and they continue down a path of their own choosing. Those who choose to help will continue do so. There are those who remember the "early years", and they want to "give back". There are those who want to help because they remember their own frustrations, or they want to "tip a hat" to the one that guided them through a mine field, and they want to pass on the "appreciation". Some do it because they are at a learning stage, and nothing makes the info stick better then repetition. Helping others makes the technology become known like the back of your hand. There are some who do not know about CCTV, but they see a post with the exact problem they were having, and they feel compelled to jump in. There are those who come to the forum as a means to increase their business, and soon find out that participating does not increase the bottom line, and soon get frustrated when a poster does not take the advice, or follow instructions down to the letter. They feel as if they are wasting their own time because they are not getting a return on the investment of time spent of the forum. There are some who have been here a long time, and see the same issue over, and over, and over, and it just beats you down, and you get frustrated, and you just want to "give up"! There are those who have not been around in a while, and then they come back to the forum helping posters, and then fade in to the background again till another time. There are those who help that we would describe as "hot shots". They just want to "be the man"! They want to feel important, or they want to be the center of attention. Once in a while one will come along that is so conceited that we all get a good laugh!

I would want to know if the external power supply was putting out the correct voltage and tested under load, and then I would check the internal power supply for the correct voltages. I am thinking that you have a power supply problem, or your hard drive is about to go, and it is sucking up all of the power causing these odd issues. I truely do not know what is wrong with your unit, but it needs to be benched at a repair place.

I was unaware that you would be using the PIR to control PTZ position. Using PIRs will be a bad choice in general. I only say this because my belief is you have no "control" over the territory that you are watching. You say street corner, and I am thinking of an open area where people are allowed to travel, and not a security zone where only "authorized personnel" are allowed. Question: Will the PTZ be controlled by different PIR? In other words if there is alot of "traffic" in mutiple zones will the PTZ be watching a "tennis game" going back, and forth? I can see why you have to use PIR as you do not "own" the street corner, and therfore you cannot install beam device on this location, and run wire back to your property. In regards to the high crime area I would want to know if you have iron bars on the windows, or if you plan on installing bars on your windows. I would want to look at the "whole" picture. I would use the iron bars, and thorny shrubbery to force a person to walk in a direction that I create. In other words a sidewald with thorny bushes on either side forces them down the sidewalk. What a perfect place for a "man trap" and a good facial shot, and this would be a great place to put a camera. Why are you interested in watching property that is not yours? I cannot understand the extra expense? I can see recording this area as an approach point. I would not use a PTZ on this area. I would use a 220X zoom camera. A PTZ would be great if you did remote view. The last post sounded more of a "professional" surveillance system rather then a simple home solution. You need to think about high crime. You need to think about cutting the power to get to the building without an alarm. You need to think of serious battery back up, or solar power, or your own battery bank, and an inverter. Will your system be monitored by an alarm monitoring company for police dispatch? Will you be hiring security services to respond (rental cops with yellow lights rather then red, and blue) to an alert. I would want to look at this for the big picture also. What kind of "mean" shubbery can you plant to deter them from coming on your property, and make them go to a property that is much easier to get in to? Shrubbery is prettier then concertina wire! Can you install a KOI pond? It creates a water barrier, or a way to redirect a person to a camera. What do you think?

Set up your dvr so that when you put a wire across the contacts on the back of you DVR then when you remove the wire (an open circuit) it will trigger the recording. Why? If they cut the wire then you have an open circuit, and you have a DVR trigger to record even if they get around the motion detector. Motions detectors: There are too many variables and you should seek a professional. Are you using PIRs inside, or outside? If you use them outside then be prepared to have false positives, such as wild animals triggering the DVR. If you have the detectors under a covered area then you mitigate movement from trees, and birds on the wire (this is assuming you have a long throw PIR). Question: How far out do you want to detect motion with the PIR? Perhaps it may be better to use a photo beams. http://www.optexamerica.com/productpage.aspx?l1=2&l2=7&id=6 The advantage is that you have less false triggers. If an animal were to walk through it may be tall enough to trigger the lower beam but not large enough to trigger the upper beam. If a person walks through then they will trigger the upper, and lower beams, and you will not get a trigger off of every animal, or moving tree limb, and such. In regards to motion detectors: There are long throw detectors, but they have a narrow path. There are wide beam motion detectors, but they do not reach out very far. You will need to know the distance that you are working with, and you need to select the perfect detector to match your environment. There are battery operated motion detectors where "security is NOT of the essence". These battery operated detectors can be placed anywhere with hook and loop (velcro), or can be mounted with screws, or you can use silicone sealant to mount them in a unique way. There are also motion detectors that have x10 (communication over the power line) that can trigger many devices at once. You can trigger your DVR, outdoor lighting, and anything else that you may need. You can place a receiver in to an electrical outlet, and it can receive signals from the motion detector, and then send "an alert" over the power line. You can have the alert received in the room where the DVR is located to trigger recording, and you can replace a light switch with an X10 light switch, and this will allow the outdoor lights to come on with the "alert". X10 has a reputation for "not working", and this is false. This is based on poor design by installers. I have been on many sites to replace X10 with another technology, and I show them the problem, and how to correct the problem, and then make the system work like it is supposed too work. There are devices that solve multi branch power line communication problems, and there are filters to remove noise from the electrical system, and some other "pro installer" tricks of the trade that I will keep to myself. What do you want your system to do? Is this a residential system, or a commmercial system? Is security of the essence? How much are you protecting? Spend about 10% of that value as a baseline, and spend more when you elevate the threat level. If you are spending less then 10% of the total value then you have nothing to protect, or you are in the hobbyist level, and your threat level is very low. If you are on a budget then think of the big picture down the road. If you plan it right, and you plan a good "infrastructure" then you can put in a backbone system, and just a small investment will get you going, and you can add to your system as you need. I have seen where people spend the least amount of money, but later when they up the performance level of the system they actually have to replace the everything, and start all over again! Not a good investment to begin with! Think smart, and plan everything out. Make a silly wish list, and dream of what you may want it to do. Now get into a system that will allow you to be flexible. If you buy the cheapest alarm panel, and later you need to add more devices then it would be great to add wireless motion detectors, and window contacts, but if the panel was so cheap that it did not have the wireless communication as part of the system then you saved money, but then again you wasted it. You may as well buy a panel that has mutli zone add on, wireless communication, and X10 (or related technology), and other options. You can wire a front door, and a back door, and have only one motion detector, but when you go to upgrade you are good to go, and you can create the perfect system. All I am trying to say is "do not box yourself in" based on a small budget. You may spend a small amount more then you would prefer, but then you save more money down the road! What do you think?

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It is hardware based. Both local, and remote are going through the same chip. There are models with remote view options where they do not interfer with each other. http://211.75.84.102/kugai/demo/flash/rid.htm

PS. Put some dust bunnies on that power supply! It is too clean, and it stands out! LOL!

I had forgotten about the setup that you have. I sure hope the pics of the crew were of opposite sex! You might want to wipe off your table top before you start work! Have you ever caught anyone peeing in your office potted plant? The office mailboys had better be on red alert!

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20421&p=122919#p122919 BurstElement Post subject: Re: AVC760 MPEG model is discontinued, look for H.264 AVC791Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:00 am Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Australia Actually avc760z replaced 760... 760zas replaced 760zz... kpd672 replaced 760zas shortly after... kpd674 then replaced 672 a not much after and now 674a replaces 674. All this is just over a year. This is what ticks me off about AVT. _________________ Chinese supplier says: even you think our RD only develop the lower level product, but they really put a lot of effort to make it truth...

The IDE is the main clue as the Iphone Ap is made for the SATA version. I do not know if Eagle Eyes old will work or not, but I doubt that it will. In the area that I live most of the customers are well off to do, and they come from the high tech field (they do the install), or the customers are regular joes and do not pay extra to have cell video set up. This leaves me in the middle with no contact with various vendors, providers, and cell phones to get a grasp on any of the parameters. I tried following cell phone gaming forums to see if I could find a common trait between games, and cell phone video. Such as java issues and such. I could not get much without getting my hands on some phones. For me to buy everyphone is out of the question as no one would want to pay for my services that would repay the investment to put information together. I wish I had a solution for you.

This is how it is designed. Most small businesses will have one owner. The owner will be at the place where the DVR is located, or they are remoting in. Where there are two business owners is where trouble comes in. The question is who has priority? The reason it is set up this way is to catch an employee who remotes in to mess up the settings so the DVR does not work, and then the employee can steal, cheat, or lie, or what have you, and then reset the DVR. You can see a bad employee messing with your DVR right in front of your eyes. If you are remoting in then you will see another person who is remoting in, and messing with your DVR. Rule one. Take your DVR off of admin / admin default and create a new user / password! You will have to work around this feature the best you can.

Good job Scruit! I was putting more in to it then I should, and I overlooked the obvious! I cannot believe I did not catch this myself!

In the area that I live most of the customers are well off to do, and they come from the high tech field (they do the install), or the customers are regular joes and do not pay extra to have cell video set up. This leaves me in the middle with no contact with various vendors, providers, and cell phones to get a grasp on any of the parameters. I tried following cell phone gaming forums to see if I could find a common trait between games, and cell phone video. I could not get much without getting my hands on some phones. For me to buy everyphone is out of the question as no one would want to pay for my services that would repay the investment to put information together. I would love to hear more about your case!

Sorry to here of this! Who gets the kids? You have been stuffing money down the drain on this DVR. Does this mean that the DVR is now accustomed to this life style, and you will have to continue throwing money down the drain by court order? Hate to see how much the attorney fees will be! I am going to miss the guidance of those idiosyncrasies that you have found!

Try these manuals. Will this work? http://scorpiontheater.com/videonetworkingwithavtech.aspx

The java feed has been decompliled by others. Perhaps you can hire a Java programmer to make your own. Snavclient, and Steve's Jar are two examples. Do you have a Java programmer?

Video Viewer is a CMS! Are you saying that they do not like the Video Viewer version of the CMS? You can watch up to 16 DVRs with Video Viewer.

The law would probably kick in based on the lens selection. House with 32 cameras across the front would make neighbors "nervous", but if they were all 2.8mm to 4mm lenses then there is not much to see 20 feet from where the camera is mounted. In commercial districts that use PTZ cameras with "super zoom" then the cameras have a "black out mode". You can black out a window. When the camera pans across the window it creates a black area where the window is located. In the local neighborhood you would have to be above 25mm to be able to get up close to the house, and I doubt you would see much except maybe at night when it is dark, and the internal lights are on giving you a view at night. Shades, and blinds would remedy this. If you were aiming a 220X Zoom camera in to someone's window then other laws would probably kick in such as stalking, voyeuism, peeping tom, or whatever local laws there may be. You can imagine the "hatemail" that I used to get in 2000 before it was "cool" to have cameras. Now anytime something happens my door is the first to be knocked on. Sometimes my cameras have solved "mysterys" on houses that are at the end of the opposite block. If I were to take all my cameras down I think the whole neighborhood would be "up in arms" for taking them down. Ironic huh? It is not illegal to sell steak knives, it is how you use them that makes them illegal. Check your local laws for your true answer.

To us Floridians we have been hating life as we have constant winter weather (to our standard), or it is overcast and cloudy. This is the most weird winter we have ever had in a very long time. I find it funny that they cannot get snow at the olympics, and other places wish they could get rid of the snow, and here it is in mid March, and we still do not have "florida sunshine". I believe even the Canadian tourist are mad at our weather! I wish you could have kept that DVR around. It would have been fun to track that bug down. I had a DVR that was manufactured in 2005, or so that had a weird problem. We torched the chips and would you believe it started running again? Strange! I guess the DVR overheated, and the solder inside the chip melted, and we just reflowed it or something!

I do not know this DVR, but I will guess that you can go to a terabyte. I am only guessing as you have a sata, and you should be able to go that high. If it were IDE I might guess at 750 as a max.

Being the pro that you are I will not dare say do a hard ware reset! I am sure you have done the reset. I am confused as to why it would be doing that. I am thinking of a bad power pack that is leaking ac. Perhaps try freeze spray on the chips to see if it is overheating. Have you check all of the oscillators on the board. One might be out of freq. It may work for a time, and then drift perhaps. What do you think?

http://scorpiontheater.com/reset.aspx