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Hey RickA! How was your holiday?

I would have you direct your question to them: tech@icrealtime.com I am not a ICRealtime "specialist". The Flex 16 with the R30 upgrade (R30 is the 30fps add on, and I believe they are providing one chip for every two channels for 30fps, and I have not tested a DVR with equipment to verify D1 @ 30 fps as the website says).

The Flex series is more desk top, and the pro is more rack mounted. The pro is more for a corporate IT style DVR. I would say your decision is more budget based. If you want the pro series, and money is no object then yes I recommend the pro series, but with the R30 upgrade why go with the pro series? The pro series is not designed to go in to the menu from the front panel, and you will need to access it through the LAN. For the money I woud go witht the Flex with the R30 upgrade. Be aware that when accessing prior history video that you are only seeing two cameras at a time, and not a multiplex of all of the cameras. During playback you can access the different cameras by toggling the camera buttons. The trade off is that the video over the internet is fantastic! The video is suberb! When I first demod one of the DVRs I fell out of my chair. No surprise since I mostly sell the AVTech line of 4 channel DVR, but I was really amazed at how the video look on screen, and over the internet. If you have not demo'ed an ICreatime then you have not experienced H.264.

Swap out your microwave for a metal enclosed chasis, rather than then the plastic case. You can try to ground it better. Do you have a three pronged electrical cord? Your microwave should not disrupt the signal that much. Is the microwave on the other side of the wall from where your receivers are? You just need to get the camera, and the receiver closer together. The disadvantage with wireless cameras are that others can see your cameras with devices such as "nanny cams" ect. IP based wireless cameras do not have the privacy issue, and the digital signal will "carry" farther then the regular analog signal.

Here is what I use. I get these out of the Electrical Section at Home Depot. Scroll down to the pictures. http://scorpiontheater.com/wiringdrywall.aspx

Flex with the R30 upgrade. http://icrealtime.com/solutions/dvrs.asp

I am willing to stick my neck out on the Cameras not getting enough power, or some kind of power issue.

I would go with the idea that you have a condensation problem. I also notice that you do not have enough IR going out to the area that you are viewing. Can you put some silica pack inside of the cameras?

A microwave can disturb wireless 2.4Ghz cameras, and phones, and wireless routers as they are all on the same freq per se. http://scorpiontheater.com/wireless.aspx .

http://www.avtech.com.tw/english/cctv.aspx?Type=3&Type2=2

BurstElement!! How are you doing? It seems I have not seen you on the forum since Sept, or so? You must have been really busy! Glad to see you back!

I would refer you back to your insurance agent. Then again with enough money you could insure you derrier for a million dollars like JLO!! For others who come to this thread from a search engine: I would imagine you could. I am thinking of those "antique", or "custom" cars. Suicide doors, chops, and custom flair, fenders, and such with metal, and welding, and other fabrication techniques. They insure streched limos, so I would imagine that you could insure the cameras, the wiring, the DVR, and the GPS equipment. The question comes down to what is covered, and what do you have to do to document before an accident such as keeping all of the receipts, and taking a camcorder, and walking around your vehicle to document the mounted equipment. When my 62 nova was crashed by the auto mechanic's son who thought that he could "test drive it" when the shop was closed behind his father's back it was covered for everything to include the one up custom paint job. Yes ladies! Men do cry real tears! The young kid has now learned that there are things such as custom clutches, and that there is no slippage what so ever. My left leg was three times bigger then my right leg with the constant "leg presses". Basically you put you foot on the clutch, and then you slide your foot to the side, and off the pedal, and you do not (what ever you do) bend your knees, and lift your foot unless you wish to eat said knee right in the face!! Oh yes! When driving it do not forget to hang on for dear life! I sure do miss that car!

If you need to have that much storage then I would recommend using the Disk Array port on the back, and order a disk array. You can stack as many disc arrays that you wish. For the others reading this post, or if you came here from a search engine: You can always swap hard drives as well. Lets assume that you can get 30 days of recording in CIF. You could swap out a hard drive each month, and store the hard drive. Mark your hard drives JAN, FEB, MAR, ect. Now you have a years worth of history. If you get less then you can swap your hard drive every two weeks or so. I recommend this for businesses such a arcade style "casinos" We have them here in the US. They are not true casinos as they do not pay cash. They pay out with gift cards of your choice. This is a law that came from "Chuckie Cheese". Kids can win tickets from an arcade game, and then go to a counter to redeem them for prizes. This is how these business can have a years worth of storage, and then go back if they feel that a long time customer has been stealing from other clients. There are problems with this. You may not be able to line up the time frame properly when you reinsert the drive in to the DVR, and you may find it difficult to "search" for the video. BEWARE that there are some DVRs that auto reformat when you insert a hard drive, and you have just erased all of your footage, and you have just blew what you were trying to achieve. There are other issues, and you need to determine what works for you, and what does not. Research you DVRs manual for more info. The disk array is the best way to go for long term storage. Talk to others on this forum if you feel that a PC based DVR is a better option as a RAID system may be more of what you are looking for, but then you need to check your budget, and see what works best for you.

What do you think with WDR Wide Dynamic Range cameras?

Can you negative image the night time shot?

I would maintain possession of the equipment, and then provide it to the school. Imagine a change in teachers, and you have one who cares less about AV, or electronics, and then chaos hits the class as students start taking items home, or other try to "hord" the items until another teacher can be brought in to replace this teacher. I saw this with my own eyes while in my jr year in high school. The electronics teacher there was the greatest thing to electronics teaching, the students, the faculty, and a program that the school board was proud of. This teacher had high end corporations donating money, and products to the class. He had to quit at the end of my JR year. The guy who replaced him new nothing of electronics, and he crashed the program, and students were bailing after the winter break. Tools were being stolen, and items were coming up missing. I managed to salvage all of the Electronics magazine where we had been building projects. The following year they shut down the class. What would happen to the stuff if someone took those items? You can always give the stuff back to the class when the next teacher comes in, and get it going again. What do you think. I hope you can pull off a beginers build with the links I gave you!

I am first curious about the audio. Are you doing stereo, or are you doing sound surround? Will you want to capture "laugh trax" from the audience, or would the production be enhanced with full effect of the audience? Will you be doing a 5.1 sound recording? No will you be recording audio seperately, or will you want to capture multi mic, and multi video all at the same time? How much are you willing to put in to this project. I do not see a return of profit on the investment so this project will be what you can afford out of pocket is this correct? If quality is of the essence then I would stick to more traditional computer software, and do your editing on a computer. The biggest problem with this project in my opinion would be the type of computer selected to perform multitasking. It would have to have a very fast internal communication. I do not know all of the bus language, and I am sure there will be others who will come along and let you know what computer specs you will need. I would avoid the $300.00 computers on the shelves at the "Wally World". Granted these computers are probably more powerful then computers that came out 10 years ago, but I would upgrade to the point where it hurts the wallet. Video surveillance equipment is not really geared to production work. There are minor quirks in both elements that are not similiar in the opposite environment. For production work I would not want to use any compression what so ever. I would want the video going straight to the hard drive. I would also watch the auto auctions as a lot of the TV news vans are out there because of the digital transition, and you might be able to strip them for the contents, and let the auto bidder keep the "chassis". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-camera http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/index.html http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Advanced+Video/Liquid+Edition/Avid+Liquid+Pro+7 http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/ http://desktop.thomsongrassvalley.com/products/EDIUS/index.php http://www.virtualdub.org/ (I think this is still free. scorpion). http://www.3dvsystems.com/ http://wareseeker.com/free-adobe-photoshop-cs3-help/ _____________________________________________________________ This link may be the extreme, but it may give you ideas on how to build the "Experimenters Version". I would try to contact Television studios, and make friends there to see if you can get some "analog" stuff that is just laying around as they switch to digital. http://www.lvideoservices.fr/applicMonitoring.htm http://www.lvideoservices.fr/index.html http://www.lvideoservices.fr/picture.htm http://www.lvideoservices.fr/prodMVR.htm (Click on this link demo multicam mockup) http://www.lvideoservices.net/ http://www.lvideoservices.net/hd_links.htm Technical specifications of MVRâ„¢ Frame accurate sync among all channels (with genlock) 4 to 16 video inputs (SDI - composite) 4 to 32 independent audio inputs (analog XLR - jack3,5) MPEG2 @ 2..25Mbits/s file output I-frame to GOP30 with any IBP configurations 4/3 and 16/9 modes, image preprocessing Support of progressive 720 x 576 (25p) Many hours of internal recording cap for 10 cameras Confidence monitor loop-through (Internal VGA frame) 4U rack (400W, 20kg, 60cm depth) Ready for production Standalone operation Key Benefits of MVRâ„¢ platform up to 16 video recorders in a single 4U rack industrial PC capable of running your NLE (not during record) Direct editing of video material (no transfer, no conversion) Ideal for 576p to 720p blow up Built-in analog inputs (no nood for conversion) SAN friendly (MPEG2=smallest file format) Gigabit, Firewire, Usb2 usable as storage for live recording ! 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Round plastic domes with IR inside is similiar to standing in front of a mirror while holding a flashlight aimed at the mirror. Now tell me what you see? A lot of glare, or bounce back?

GriffinSystems is right! Avoid this style at all costs! RUN! http://eclipsecctv.com/ECL-5I_dome_camera.html This is what I would recommend: http://avssys.net/?s=product&sub=camera&cat=outdoor&p=vnd49ir Find this kind of connector: http://eclipsecctv.com/ECL-1110_connector.html Twist on are much easier for the do it yourself Here is how you can put on a twist on connector. http://scorpiontheater.com/shoothouse.aspx Scroll half way down the page till you see Stripping RG59 for a BNC connector. This will show you how to strip the RG59. how to fix video source problems with monitors http://scorpiontheater.com/videosourceproblems.aspx How to trouble shoot camera problems http://scorpiontheater.com/cameraproblems.aspx How to run wiring down drywall walls from an attic http://scorpiontheater.com/wiringdrywall.aspx Brief notes on power supplys. Use the Altronix links http://scorpiontheater.com/pstips.aspx

LOL! You are too funny! Wiki, an educator's best friend!!

Glad to see another Floridian on this forum!! If you ever need anything give me a shout! Welcome to the forum!

Yes! I think your photo gives a good example of how the camera would do it! The words in the red area of the plate seem to "pop" out a little better in the reverse image. Scruit can explain to the others how the green is the opposite of red in the color wheel, and that is why that area turns green in the reverse image.

This also has the negative view, and this may be a better choice for automotive aps. http://usaginc.com/viewspec.php?sku=US-PC-410 4.8 watts 12 volts I do not know if the rated watts is while zooming in and out, and if there is an "idle" wattage.

I noticed in the post about license plate recognition that NEGATIVE VIEW never comes up. I believe negative view will give you a better license plate shot than regular cameras. Negative view is worthless for normal video shots. This may not be the camera of choice for mounting on a vehicle, but it will give you a frame of reference to get you started for looking for an IP 66 rated bullet with the same features as this one: http://usaginc.com/viewspec.php?sku=US-PC-405 The spec does not show it, but this has the negative view. If you are a dealer then you can call Juan Gayo, and tell him Scorpion sent you at 1 954 570 7655 and he can set you up with a demo over the internet with a license plate that they have screwed to the wall. I am sorry for the end user as this demo is not available. What do you guys think about negative view for license plate recog?

You can find the manual for the DMR 8 here: http://scorpiontheater.com/cpcamtechsupport.aspx Scroll down until you see the picturer of the DMR 8, and then you can download a manual. The DMR 8 is the AVC 785. How to network an AVTech DVR (DMR : http://scorpiontheater.com/videonetworkingwithavtech.aspx