I am not sure why my 1st link does not work for some (it works fine for me). You can also go to costco.com and search for "Item #973199". For the second link, it's "Item #916861".
As for Boogieman reply, thanks. But if I don't see ever need more than 8 cameras, nor need to run cable more than 100 ft, is there any reason to pony up $500 more for the IP, especially when it's still buggy with motion-detect recording ?