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Hi, I'm hoping someone can help with this please. I'm looking for a CCTV system for a new store and i'll need approx 58 cameras, (54 indoor, 4 outdoor) the indoor count may change slightly later as the internal structure of the building may change a bit but this is a pretty accurate estimate. So I was thinking of a 64 camera system but I dont seem to be able to find anything this large, I have only ever fitted the basic off-the-shelf 4-8 camera kits so this is quite new to me. I'd like them to be able to do all the typical things - nothing special, Viewable via the internet etc, record upto 2 weeks of video and preferably just the 1 DVR box maybe with multiple HDD bays if such thing exists, also HD as all images need to be crystal clear and the 4 outdoor cameras would need to be able to 'see' at night so the enterances are covered in the dark. Please can anyone offer any help on the subject? I have googled around but the most I seem to be able to find are 16 camera kits, I have contacted a couple of companies telling me I'd basically need 4x 16 cam kits to get what I want but this would require 4 logins to view them remotely which I don't really want. I also contacted swann direct and they said the same thing. Thanks

Thanks for the link, I'll have a look through them, do you know who any authorized resellers are for the dahua nvr's please? I have had a look at their site but I cant seem to find them. Thanks

Hi, The company trading on amazon have a seperate site here https://www.jmcsecure.co.uk which they provide a 12 month warranty on all products + manufacturers warranty on other selected products, so I'd buy direct from them anyway if I did use them. Is there any repitable suppliers you could recommend to get the NVR's? as i'm currently googling around for suppliers and can only go off other peoples reviews right now. I'm happy to go dahua if this is better, again if its from a repitable supplier etc. It's a retail store by the way, selling high-end clothing. Thanks

Hi, thanks for all the advice. It is a commercial building by the way. My mistake about the cable, I know its low smoke not fire resistant, thats just my incorrect wording Thats also not a bad idea about alternating cameras, I think i'll do that. In regards to the data proetction we will notify the ICO - it's also only £35 a year if anyone wants to know, and their 'code of conduct' basically says the data can be stored for aslong as the companys needs with acceptable reason, so 14 days will be more than enough for this system. The Hik NVR I was looking at is £765.25 + HDD's at a couple hundred quid x 2 is about what i'm looking at spending anyway on the nvr's. I'm just checking with the supplier that the cable will be suitable and meet regulations but I already use that cable anyway for other things. From what I can tell on paper, 2 of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/HIKVision-Channel-NVR-ports-12000Gb/dp/B00PLAFELE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1431704884&sr=8-5&keywords=32+channel+nvr & these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hikvision-DS-2CD2032-I-Camera-12mm-Length-White/dp/B00HWXUKH6/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A3B74O2OH3FSJB should be ok. Is there anything I've missed? If I know this kit will be ok (spec wise), I'll look around for a repitable dealer who will supply warranty and software updates etc. Thanks for all the help

Hi, Sorry for the late reply, I have been very busy lately. Thanks for your reply, and here are my thoughts. Ideally I'd like the NVR which you have suggested but i'm not looking to buy from china right now, I have found the same NVR available for purchase in the UK but it's over 4 grand without hard drives which I'm not willing to spend on this right now. I was looking at this NVR http://www.amazon.co.uk/HIKVision-Channel-NVR-ports-12000Gb/dp/B00PLAFELE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1431704884&sr=8-5&keywords=32+channel+nvr I was thinking maybe I'll get 2 of these with 12TB each and splitting the cameras half and half, half the cameras are on the ground floor anyway and the other half are on the second floor so 1 NVR each basically. The powered switches will live in the roof of each floor and the max estimated cable length from camera to switch will be 40 meters, and maybe 30 meters(Ish) from switch to the room which will home the NVR's. This will keep my cost down and should eliminate the bandwidth issue would you agree? I can also get HDD's cheaper from my trade supplier. I was also thinking of recording at 720p instead of 1080p as the quality of 720p will be perfectly fine for my needs and would lower the bandwidth requirements and save on HDD space. I was thinking of using these cameras http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hikvision-DS-2CD2032-I-Camera-12mm-Length-White/dp/B00HWXUKH6/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A3B74O2OH3FSJB which have 12mm focal length or I was also considering these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hikvision-DS-2CD2132-I-Indoor-Outdoor-Network/dp/B00HWXV49Y/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A3B74O2OH3FSJB which have 6mm focal length but are obviously dome shaped. and i'll probably just get the POE switch you recommended and cable length shouldn't be a problem. Would you agree the above equipment would suffice? or is there anything else I have missed? For the cable I'll be using this by the way http://www.netstoredirect.com/cat6-cable/296881-excel-cat6-utp-cable.html it's a high quality fire resistant solid core cable used by BT engineers which I have in stock and have made cables longer than 50meters with, so I'm pretty happy with this. Thanks

Hi, Thanks for the advice. So if I'm correct the NVR is instead of a DVR which essentially functions the same except I will connect a Powered Ethernet Switch which inturn will be connected to my IP cameras via ethernet cables? So if I'm not mistaken I have found the following equipment which I think is suitable, please could you take a look to see if i'm on the right track? 1) NVR = http://www.cctvempire.co.uk/DVR-NVR/Hikvision-NVR-Enterprise/DS-9664NI-RT I noticed there is a non raid version, I guess it wouldn't matter which 1 I got would it? It also says it has dual gigabit network interfaces so this means i'd be able to conenct 2 switches correct? 2) Powered switch = http://www.ebuyer.com/263122-tp-link-tl-sf1048-switch-48-x-10-100-rack-mountable-tl-sf1048 3) Cameras = http://www.cctvempire.co.uk/CCTV-Cameras/Hikvision-CCTV-Network-IP-Cameras/DS-2CD2122F-I These cams are powered over ethernet, so I guess this means it will just connect to the switch via an ethernet cable, the spec seems fine but I will probably shop around for other alternative cameras aswell. Also is theretypically a limit on the length of the ethernet cable which is supported by the cameras? Does this setup seem correct for my needs would you say? or is there anything else I have missed that you think ill need (except for the ethernet cable) Also you mensioned about going PC based, I assume this means just replacing the NVR in the setup with a PC running some software? Would this have many advantages over using an NVR other than price? Thanks for your time Aaron