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SyconsciousAu I never thanked you for your *extremely* useful advice. I was caught up in personal and other matters and while not an excuse is at least some sort of mitigation. So, thank you mate. I'm now going to embark on installation of two cameras and a DVR and rather than buy say a Swann 4x1 in a box, I'll look for Hikvision or similar and reduce the number of cams to 2 and see what happens. I need it in, up and working within the next 6 weeks. I'll report back. regards

Sorry man - my post should have been addressed to SyconsciousAu - not SysconcsiousAu

Thanks SysconsciousAu. Your Police Recommendations document is invaluable and well worth the read (and application). And yes, we Aussies do need to stick together I live in quite a wealthy area, almost gated in some parts, and we don't appear to have the crime which is prevalent elsewhere (apart from a well known bikie who lives around the corner, or should I say, lived - he's doing 6 years in a far bigger house at the moment). By that, I mean practically every house, and there are only a few bungalows, is alarmed, and many residents are elderly and home all day, and as in most 2 storey neighbourhoods, most backyards are not entirely private. Our place has plenty of deadlocks, window and sliding door locks, gate locks and is alarmed with attentive neighbours and we haven't ever been burgled. However we travel overseas a bit and wanted not to depend on other people looking at our place while away - we want a system which uploads to the cloud, only records when triggered and has resolution and robustness meeting the specs set out by the police in your document. We don't have a real budget, but can spend up to say $5K or so for a decent system - ie we're not bound to the systems from DX or similar, but if there *are* decent systems which can be purchased from HK (I use Deal Extreme a fair bit for other stuff) then why not? In response to the other narky bugger who blew his nose in my direction - mate, I'm not short of a quid and therefore don't need cheap advice in order to save money. I have a passion for understanding tech, and that's what I wanted - not your cheap or free advice. SO there ... Your assistance is invaluable and now that I have some time, I will take it from there. The web reference (http://cctvdesign.com.au/tutorials/cameras-choosing-resolution/surveillance-camera-comparison-parameters) I've just converted to .pdf to read soon and synthesise with the police document. I will probably have a look at the standards too - one of my clients has a lot of dealings with SAI Global (they're audited and I know one of the auditors) so I may try to finagle a copy from them FOB. I'm interested in the Theia Tech lens calculator but I have Java and scripting disabled on my rig (security) so it doesn't work on the PC. I might try the app on my wife's phone (android) - mine is a winphone, so no go there either. App it is. Internal cameras no longer a go, after your helpful advice. No I don't want leakage onto the net, although I do know quite a bit about securing wireless etc. Thanks. Anyway, I have full alarms throughout. Blurriness at night is no go as well. Therefore, higher shutter speed combined with external lighting will be necessary in order to capture non-blurred, recognisable facial features, clothing, vehicle details etc in the dead of night. Thanks for that lead too. White light will probably be best, it will deter and illuminate in natural colour rather than the green hues of IR reflectance. No I didn't mean onboard camera recording. It was a question from a newbie, please forgive. I simply meant recording to some internal static hard drive with say 4TB capacity - but now I've thought about it, I would like that to be either supplanted by, or supplemented with, cloud storage. That can't be interfered with, Snowdon withstanding Your recommendation regarding the downsides of domes taken. I will not use domes on your recommendation. What cameras are you using, if I may? You're a wealth of practical information. Regarding AliExpress, can I enquire again please what cameras you are using? Obviously they meet all of your recommendations and observations, and that's good enough for me. I can then at least research them and determine whether they meet my requirements. I'll understand as well if you don't wish to disclose the type of camera - but perhaps a PM if security is an issue? Snarkiness observation noted. I'm an old timer on usenet (not google groups, paid NSP's only) so I'm used to flame wars and all that crap. I too can understand the origin of the narkiness, but it takes an assumption in the first place, that I'm a cheapskate, which I'm not. Nor am I a bludger. More than happy to pay and I don't have a hard budget. Do you have an opinion on cloud storage vs hard drive onsite? Thanks anyhow mate, and I'm sorry I didn't get back to this thread in a more timely manner. I've been pretty busy (for a semi retired bloke) with work and family etc, but still no excuse. Great advice and greatly appreciated.

Well thanks for the informative reply. I assume that you think I've posted this in the wrong sub-forum otherwise undoubtedly you would have provided a little more information, just a little, than a brusque reference to read in another part of the forum. I need a start point mate. That's the thing. I've just read a few posts in the part you pointed me to and there are people asking much the same question as myself and getting reasonably informative responses, no brushoffs that I can see. Therefore, my assumption that what you really meant was, repost in that forum. Correct? Really, mate, you could have given me a little bit of info though. This is a forum, where people go to learn, and that's what I'm trying to do. When I get some information, then I'll plunge deeper of my own accord. Even you, master of all, would have needed a start point at some stage. I have another thought as well - I would like to upload to the cloud, so that there is no physical media in my house which can be tampered with, stolen or copied. Is recording to the cloud covered in that sub-forum as well? Do *you* know if it can be done?

Hello all. I reside in sunny Perth, Western Australia - two storey house facing a street which is around 10 metres from the porch of my place. I want to install a CCTV system which will have the following attributes: 1. Immediate installation of two IP66 cameras at points already selected on front of house with sufficient range for facial features to be captured for 10 metres. 2. Possibility of additional cameras in future at other points in the yard + internal cameras - to be added to the system. 3. Good quality IR - hopefully up to same range as day time capture of facial features @ 10 metres. 4. Recording ability 5. Ability to enter system with PC or smartphone from anywhere in the world (IP or router - I don't know yet) 6. Front cameras to be encapsulated in darkened material such that direction of cameras cannot be identified. 7. Motion sensor recording - ie not permanent recording. Motion perhaps sets of 15 minutes or so of recording. 8. Available in Australia. 9. If possible, available through such organisations as DealExtreme - not a necessity though, quality first. 10. Capable of being installed by a handy fellow who is conversant with IP, routers, PCs, cabling etc. Sorry if my ignorance shines through here, this will be my first experience with CCTV and on reviewing the responses to similar requests here, I take my hat off to some of the quality advice and experience and knowhow on display. I have several months to get this installed before we go overseas again. regards

My intention in registering here is to become well enough acquainted with CCTV technology and recommendations and advice to be able to install a serviceable system in and around my house which can be accessed by PC or smartphone anywhere in the world (we do a lot of travelling). I'm an older guy with a technical bent and a good but lay understanding of microelectronics, networking, IP addressing and so on. But not a great understanding of CCTV tech. That's why I'm here. Cheers all