kpatterson

Try these links as i think they may help you... [edit by mod - store link removed] This is for a mobile 12vdc dvr typically used in police applications, this unit has GPS information overlay and has available a USB cradle for video offload as well as shock proof mounting racket try this link for some bulletproof cameras that will work wonderfully for you [edit by mod - store link removed] this camera truly is bulletproof and can be ordered with different lenses than the standard 6mm let me know if thi shelps you or if you go with these units.... i have researched these pieces but have not placed any in real world situations, but i want to go after the police departments in several towns around me that are adding several new cars per year hope everything works out well kelly patterson 281-217-0809

I have a customer who is in need of 4 cameras on the same plane down a line of utility poles from 800 feet out to 1200+ feet. His property used to contain a Cable Television Headend in a somewhat rural area, any way he has several roles of what appears to be RG-11 Cable ( I can not find any data on the cable and i havent stripped back a end yet) that he would like to use for these cameras. however he also wants battery back up on all the cameras and i've spec'd a transformer UPS solution to drive the cameras and the DVR from the head end. Shouldn't i be using twisted pair and baluns for thi sinstall so i can break out along the way down the line. I intend to put up 2 cat5E cables to further expansion abilities.. Am i thinking along the right lines here??? Any input would be appreciated. Oh yeah there is a whole lot more cool stuff he wants me to do with the distribution of the DVR output and handheld remote control over the DVR between 2 structures and across 6 LCD's at this time

Hey Scorpion, I haven't forgot your help but i have been busy with a nasty custody case with my worthless ex and haven't had time to take care of business... i finally ordered most of the equipment for this job and will post the specs for what i selected maybe after i get out of the shower, but i need help with power cable selection for sending 24VAC as far as 1400 feet.....i can get a good deal on some 18/2 stranded but it is on 500 foot spools, can i use this and splice it along the way, i have nema junction boxes, will this work or will it degrade?......help me out with some of your wisdom please>>>> Thanks kelly.....i will check back later this eve if the shower don't knock me out after my 14 hours in an attic today... thanks again for your insights

I use Firefox and have now for about 8 months and i love it, When i got this new puter i had IE7 and was using it and loved the tab feature.....what i hav ebeen waiting for...but when someone tol dme about firefox i d/l it and havent looked back sinnce...rightg now i have th is tab, 2 online cctv sales sites, the googlemap of the project, as wellas2 other sales sites to look for best deal on cable and hard drives for my dvr being ordered in one of the tabs, and yahoo for my e-mail, and constantly open and closing several others to see pdf cut sheets and the sort.....love the features cntrl-click a link and new tab...look at it and close and still be where i am.....lovely thing...BUT, I miss my Commodore 64 and my physical cradle 2400 baud modem,,,, Ahh those were the days///LOLOLOLOLLOl,,.,,, and man that google map software...LOVE IT....can see many new possibilities for this,,, just wishing that i can print my marked up map.....Iordered some parts of this system today... I will post the spec's i chose in a bit, I have really appreciated th ehelp i have received on thi sboard and have read many threads......looks like i got a new haunt,,,,,especially if i am going to go for more CCTV. Here in houston they are talking about mandating all convience stores and some other such establishments to have a CCTV system.... I see a lot of low hanging fruit.......come to pappa take care ya'll i'll post the Bill of materials in aabit Thanks scorpion Kelly

yes but would a figure at one end of the rectangle and a figure at the other end of the rectangle look like they are standing beside each other????? and both be in a reasonable focus???

Yes he is mostly interested in looking down the roadways, he says he doesn't want to feel imposing to the rv spots, as most of them are actually pretty much permanent spots

It is cool to be able to mark up the real image like this aint it, and i love the fact that YOU did a site survey from Florida. I really appreciate your input and i like the idea of flipping camera's 4 & 5 to opposite ends...seems like it would work pretty good BUT, with a super zoom lens wouldn't the entire field look kind of squished up??? just wondering.....thanks for the help scorpion

OK Scorpion I figured it out your links are centered on different coordinates.. The last google link you posted is in fact centered on the pole... Camera #1 OK to the south east or about 8 o'clock or so you see another pole just beyond the first RV spot there..On this pole we will have 1 camera looking in the direction of the gate to the lake operation which is just off the screen in the same direction as this pole was from the center pole.... Camera #2 Now go back to the center pole and we will have a camera pointing east or to the left down the driveway there towards the end rv spot Camera # 3 & 4 from the center pole move back to the right 2 poles ( it is at the end of the driveway on the other side of the fence there ) on this pole we will have one camera looking east sort of and one looking west sort of ( each direction down the drive in front of the RV spots Camera 5 Go all the way down the driveway to the right (to the opposite end of the large lake) and you will find a old satellite headend for the old cable system, this will be across the driveway from a foundation slab and a structure....on the slab in the picture there is now a 2 story building which has a deck looking over the lake... camera # 5 is going to be on this structure looking over the lake to the far corner where there are now covered picnic tables and floating docks. OK Got all the locations lined out I sure wish i could just mark up that image thanks for looking

Evening all i have sold a gentleman on a lower tier DVR and camera system and when i collected the deposit check he wanted to add several cameras over a thousand feet away from the DVR to view some commercial swim/scuba/fish/rv spot rental areas on a sand pit on the same piece of land. if any one is interested in helping me spec some of these higher end cameras and giving me som ehints as to how to sell him on the fact that they are 3 to 5 times the cost of the domes and bullets i sold him for viewing 8 to 20 feet away in lit rooms and under lit eaves, I would greatly appreciate it. If interested just bump my post and i will provide more detailed info thanks kellypatterson 2812170809

It seems to me that denise went thru an illness right about the time he was shutting down his Satellite Operations ( or at least what i had helped him set up here in Texas in 5 cities ), Denise seemed like a pretty good girl, i mostly dealt with her when i was dealing with them and she came out to Texas one time when we opened up the San Antonio market. We had a pretty good time out on the River Walk one night while she was in town. I was running 7 guys consistently and as many as 12 at times for him with operations in Houston, Dallas, Lufkin, San Antonio and Austin, anyway we parted ways i guess probably sometime the middle to the end of '05. He made a payment to me of 2 checks drawn on a closed acct and then made part of it good on a new acct later and then i quit hearing from anyone in the co. and all my contact #'s for them quit working and I am sitting on a pile of brand new equipment still sealed with unactivated cards and all as well as all the junk that goes with having three mini warehouse stocking operations as well as a couple of stripped down internet boxes with multifunction printers that were used in a couple of markets to disperse work orders...... just some of the fun that came with gathering up all that low lying fruit in some new DBS markets in my area....i rode the wave all the way to the beach and jumped off before it sucked me back out. The Residential DBS market from what i gather is just unbelievable these days. I did my first install in early 1999 and was paid 200 dollars by the dealer plus nearly another hundred by the customer ( for a pole mount and a wall fish all for a single receiver system that i believe he paid the dealer about 250 for. Nowadays Direct and Dish have beat the FREE into the consumers head and they have no perceived value for the product. Installers are now making about 60 bucks for that same job nowadays or worse yet 100 bucks for a 4 Room System that they supply all the materials for, and material cost and fuel have doubled plus some since then. I am glad that I never fully depended on that stream and was able to get out of it without ever having taken too many or too large of hits. Oh well that was a rant take care scorpion Kelly

I am not sure which way to tell you to go scorpion..not sure where your looking and which camera location you want to find... i am going to try to do a sketch and post it as an attachment maybe...thanks for the input guys

Thanks for the replies Rapid, jerome and scorpion.. Yes the customer owns the poles...they were part of the old cable system that actually serviced the whole municipality howevr the franchise has upgraded and now uses a different easement and he was left with the poles and i actually got to scrap out the entire old headend... there was a lot of cool stuff there...

yes the system wont yet let me post any code or do any private messages yet but this thread is going to help me along in that matter i think anyway if you can see all the features i described on the map...what do you think about my line of thinking?

Ok here goes...... i wish i new how to mark up the google images so i can show you all the viewing areas... OK i sold him on forgeting about the old cable but i still have questions on the cabling.... Why should i use AC over DC in this situation? And i cant use extra pairs in the CAT5 for the power?...Ergg boy things sure get a lot different when i am not just taking a video signal provided by someone else and dumping it into my distribution system I was out at the site again today and convinced him to use 5 box cameras to cover the commercial areas rather than the 3 i first asked about We are going to continue to have the one on the garage structure on the north east corner of the lake looking south across the lake to the southeast rowdy corner ( he is basically just wanting to see what is going on in these areas, not really for evidence, but mostly as a reason not to let certain people in the park) this camera will be looking at an area probably about 300 feet out in front of the camera but does not care about any of the lake in the foreground, only the shore area on the far side. Now if you look at the earth picture you will see on the north east corner a structure and a slab beside what is a cable system head end that is no longer there. That slab is what is now the garage/gameroom that will serve as my headend, Well follow that drive away to the west and you can see a line of poles running in a straight line along that drive way. Down at the far end of the large pond you can see a green triangle in the middle of the drive way that has a utility pole in the middle of it. That is the main commercial entrance to his operations and that is the pole where he first wanted to put 2 cameras with one looking at the gate in between the two ponds and one looking in front of the rv spots back towards the head end. Here is what i sold him on today to take care of that end of the property. About a third of the way between the pole in the triangle and the gate between the lakes you can see another pole....this is where we are now going to place the camera that is looking at the gate...this pole is about 150 feet from the gate area. now come back to the pole in the triangle and we are now going to put 2 cameras on this pole with one looking each direction up and down the driveway in front of the rv spots. OK now head back down the line east i guess 2 poles and we are going to put 2 cameras on this pole with one looking east and one west.. I was hoping to do all this on cat5 with my power coming from the headend so that they can be on the UPS. What do ya'll think?? Thanks for the help guys.

Yes Scorpion, that would be him and his sidekick Denise, last i heard he went into the mortage writing business, I cant help but wonder if the sub-prime fiasco has left him holding the bag or if he left others holding it, I am still sitting on about 60+ DTV receivers and untold #'s of switches and other periphials as well as 2 Computer Fax systems of his oh well I sent you an email with a link to the sandpit in question i appreciate ur taking a look at my post thanks Kelly

Hello Scorpion thanks for replying, I am in the area south of Houston, Texas. I see you are in Melbourne, FL. A couple of years ago I had a contract to do DirecTV installs for a dealer out of Melbourne, was pretty lucrative for awhile.

Hello all, My name is Kelly Patterson and I have owned a low voltage design and installation company here in the Houston, Texas area since 1999. Up until now I have gone thru several incarnations of what i think i should include in my business model offerings and after years of referring away the CCTV portion of some pretty substantial control jobs i have decided to make this this discipline one of my offerings. I have done a lot of research and bench testing of used products i have scrounged to gain some understandings of the mechanics. I am about to undertake my first real CCTV job, other than taking the signal provided to me by others and dumping it into my a/v distribution systems. I have spent several hours reading the board and hope to glean some information, and handholding maybe, from what appears to be a pretty knowledgable bunch. I am going to post the particulars of my in progress project in the appropriate forum and look forward to ya'lls helpful insights. Thanks again and i hope that i can be an asset here on the board to possibly help others in some other areas of low voltage work in which I am much more proficient. Sorry for so being long winded Kelly Patterson Digital_domicile 281-217-0809