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No no... you're not the only one. I've been looking at a solution for the front of my home... and can't quite decide which way to go. Arecont supposedly has the newest H.264 version of their dual-imager coming out, but nobody seems to have it. Mobotix has their Dual-imager models, but I'd never had the opportunity to play with one... and at $1500 a pop, there was no way I was going to buy one, and then find out it wasn't what I needed. I finally had the opportunity to pick up a used Mobotix camera (scratched dome, previously-installed, but still functional), and I've been starting to play with it. I have to say, this thing has more settings than any camera I've ever seen. Mine is a day-only model, but the images are terrific. I'm particularly intrigued by the VOIP capability of these things, but will need to purchase an extra module for my camera to test it out. What model to you have?

Keep in mind there are a couple of options with the 25. Voltage input and angle. Options are 110-240volt, 12-14V ac/dc, and POE. Pricing is going to be around $650 ish Also keep in mind if your trying to illuminate something 20m away you would want the next unit up.

http://www.rayteccctv.com/default.aspx They also make a very good product and you have the the ability to adjust the degree/angle of the light.

I would take a look at Mobotix and here is why. 1)You can use the built-in storage or a NAS so you don't have the cost and heat of a dedicated PC/server. 2) Free NVR software 3) 3Megapixel images 4) No moving parts less to go wrong 5) POE 6) No extra housings or heating required 7) Built-in logic in the cameras send even images to your cell phone VOIP and SIP so you can have the camera call your cell phone and have a 2-way conversation (any where in the world) Mobotix is way more then a camera system they are truly a fully integrated security system. www.mobotix.com

Obviously the camera can't see around corners. But in the right room it will work great.

ExacqVision can also do this. You can setup different groups/users and limit there access to different functions. You could have one group/user only able to see live video from 4 cameras another group could see live and recorded for all 8 cameras. The groups/user has no clue there is other cameras on the system.

check out http://www.chiefmfg.com/ and http://www.middleatlantic.com/ they might have what you need

Depends Acti has cheep cameras with built in motion but they have no way of sending an email by them selfs. Axis can send email/FTP on motion but can be cumbersome view folders of images. Mobotix can do it all. I like ExacqVision software it is very versatile and can be setup to record cameras remotely.

Remember cheaper doesn't = better. Mobotix plus a cell card will do exactly what you want. They can be configured to send video or images only on motion to a NAS, FTP, EMAIL. or Windows share. They also have a built in DVR so you could store the video locally and only email or FTP a single image on motion. They also come with free NVR software if you want to use it or you can access the camera directly with a web browser. Mobotix is the Swiss Army Knife of IP cameras. What are your trying to do with this camera? indoors/outdoors? do you need to be able to see at night?

Remote viewing at D1 and 30FPS is not gonna happen.... with 24 cameras you will be lucky to get 1FPS at CIF. Also your budget for 24 cameras is very tight. $6000/24= $250 per camera channel that is the cost of most quality analog cameras with out anything else. Could you do the system in-stages? or reduce the number of cameras? If you do a hybrid system you may be able to reduce the number of cameras by replacing some cameras with megapixel cameras. As the one guy said ACTI has indoor MP cameras from $300 and outdoor cameras $600.

Sorry just had the laugh..... Your name is Hardwired and mine is The Wire Guys and we both are recommending wireless solutios

So you'd put an analog camera into a camera server and a wireless bridge of some sort? How do you get it back into analog form at the DVR end? ************ Edit ************** The DVR is a Dedicated Micros unit, and it only supports a very small range of network cameras, and only at 2CIF resolution, max of 18K per frame. No motion detection is supported on IP cameras, and there is a maximum of 25fps split over ALL IP sources... DM is actually pretty miserable in the networkability department. http://dedicatedmicros.icentera.com/exLink.asp?6302542OT32U57I28598570 You can read it there you're interested... You could go encoder. decoder route but if you do that for three cameras you could buy a new hybrid DVR and go with IP cameras. If you go IP I would use the ACTI-1231 and Ubiquiti WIFI products and have a very cost effectivee setup.

Well if your worried about the just the camera on the pole there really isn't a guaranteed way to protect it from a direct hit. If your worried about the spike feeding back to the NVR/DVR and other equipment you could go with a wireless solution. If you run a metal pole into the ground lighting is gonna be attracted to it. With the wireless setup you will loss the camera and the wireless link but there is no way for the lighting to feed back to the rest of the equipment. If we put cameras on poles and there is power and LOS I am selling wireless so we don't have to worry about lighting back feeding. You know, that brings up a question I've been researching (I don't mean to hijack the thread). I've been asked by a local neighborhood to see if I can put three cameras at a couple of remote locations (a couple of gazebos that have line-of-sight to the community center building that contains the DVR), including one almost a half-mile away (that one will be pole-mounted, and an antenna could be placed on top of that pole). They've been experiencing some vandalism. What's a decent economical way to get analog video from those locations to the central building? There's no way to hard-wire them (distance, and they'd have to trench under a large parking/pool area). Does anyone know of a multi-channel analog receiver that could be fed into a standard DVR? All locations have power, so that's not a problem. Thoughts? I've looked at the 900mhz transmitter/receiver combos that supercircuits sells, but I don't know that they do multi-channel. It also looks like you might need a HAM radio license to use them (!). I would really recommend WIFI for this. Gonna be a lot easier and more reliable.

"1.3 Megapixel High Resolution 1280 x 1024 at 8fps" Doesnt that mean it will be slow video, 8fps? At least at MP quality. Not that we havent lived with that before, i remember the days when 1fps was considered fast enough. But still ... If 640x480 gets you 30fps ... I can get a non IP camera and do 811x508 or actually the DVR at 640x480 pixels, but for under $100 and push 30fps easily, why would I go with this camera? I have been setting them up at 4FPS and they work great...... I haven't had any customers ask me to increase the FPS

Well if your worried about the just the camera on the pole there really isn't a guaranteed way to protect it from a direct hit. If your worried about the spike feeding back to the NVR/DVR and other equipment you could go with a wireless solution. If you run a metal pole into the ground lighting is gonna be attracted to it. With the wireless setup you will loss the camera and the wireless link but there is no way for the lighting to feed back to the rest of the equipment. If we put cameras on poles and there is power and LOS I am selling wireless so we don't have to worry about lighting back feeding.

Realistically to do what you want its gonna cost around $1000. You haven't mentioned if this is for indoors or outdoors and if you need the camera to see at night. Because that could drive the price up. Linksys has a cheep router that you can put a Wireless cell card in. If you only need a camera for indoors with low lighting you can drop the price but your gonna have the monthly wifi fee also. $300 IP camera + $150 Linksys + $100 Aircard + Cables Keep in mind this setup will not be plug and play like Videofied there will be a good amount of programing to get this setup to do what you want.

This what your looking for but don't know if it's in your price range. http://www.videofied.com/

really it's not gonna be long until there are no more shows

The Linksys works fine but I will sell the NETGEAR FS726TP..... Right now it's cheaper and has more ports.

finally got the camera mounted to the ceiling and set up a quad view. I must say this camera when with enough light say 10-15 lux and up is amazing. everything is built into the camera and on the screen it looks like you have 4 cameras. One camera can truly cover one room very impressive.

I have to agree to an extent, I want the best value for my money though. If I buy something that normally costs $300 for $100 and it breaks I'm still out a $100 bucks I have to say I really like this idea, however what if this were to get big and really cause the manufactures to do the opposite? Instead of falling in line they pull back and become more proprietary than ever? Look at Sony for example. Not only are a lot of their digital cameras using the more expensive memory stick pro (although some did/do use SD) but there pricing is very stable across the board. All the manufactures have to do is change the way the camera sends its information, either by encrypting it or making proprietary codecs, or whatever. And force you to use their software in order to use their cameras or other large companies that they have banded with. In the end if you are now stuck with a free piece of software that will only work with no name or sub-par cameras, then they still win. Could this go this way? What are your thoughts? All the camera manufactures have to do is stop releasing there SDKs

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here we go again English buddy