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Thanks for the response. The nuuo device link says it can only support 4-8 cameras. I just threw the $2-3k out there as a figure, it could go higher if needed. I like Axis camera station but since it's windows based I wanted to avoid it. There was a Windows based NVR I looked at it and it advertised "scheduled reboot" as a feature. Talk about dressing up a bug to look like a feature. The NUUO box can do 16 channels.... I would not go with Axis Camera Station... What happens if you need to use a camera from another manufacture..... Axis Camera Station only works with Axis cameras

http://www.nuuo.com/nvrmini.php It can not do the ramp recording with this device. Your options are record all the time or record on motion (camera motion). Only NVR software that I know of that can do ramp recording is AXIS Camera Station and OnSSI/Milestone both of which will be out of your budget with the hardware. I can get you one with 16 channels. I am assuming your budget of 2-3K is for the NVR only.

The 5105 is very impressive

please do... I have a couple of the 5megapixels spec'd for jobs and I would like to see them

I have a Arecont 3130M (3 megapixel day/ 1.3 megapixel night) with two 4.0mm Arecont lens, Arecont 4" ip66 rated dome housing and (one camera license) for Arecont AV100 NVR software. It was used for testing and has never be used outside. This is the none h264 version. Total cost $1584........ $1000.00 for everything shipped to the lower 48

Does anybody have any sample images from the 5105. Day and night images would be very help full.

Engenius is looking good as they do 802G 108mbps, but Nano just 802B 54mbps. Price - the same 79$. Engenius is also 600mw vs 400mw

wireless solutions http://www.ubnt.com/ http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/Category.aspx?id=17

as of April 1st AXIS 209FD Network Camera was $549 now $499 AXIS 209MFD Network Camera was $649 now $599 AXIS 216FD Network Camera was $699 now $629 AXIS 216FD-V Network Camera was $749 now $669 AXIS P3301 Network Camera was $799 now $679 AXIS P3301-V Network Camera was $849 now $719 AXIS 216MFD Network Camera was $799 now $729 AXIS 216MFD-V Network Camera was $849 now $769 AXIS 223M Network Camera was $1,399 now $1,249 AXIS 232D+ Network Camera was $2,299 now $1,999

Have you done any bandwidth calculations? I used AXIS's design tool and set it to 72 channels 6fps/D1/Mjpeg/30compression and I came up with a total of 95.9Mbit/s. It is impressive if I switch to h.264 compression, total bandwidth drops to 11mbit/s

Here is some good info on Arecont's web site. I plan on proving this when I have some free time. http://www.arecontvision.com/uploads/file/Arecont%20Camera,%20Lens,%20and%20Pixel%20Density%20Chart%20-%20English.pdf http://www.arecontvision.com/uploads/file/Arecont%20Vision%20Pixel%20Density%20Calculator%20-%20IMPERIAL-ENGLISH%20UNITS.xls

Doesn't sound like UPnP... that DOES configure the router. The link above claims that the camera does NOT. This actually sounds very similar to how programs like TeamViewer work. TeamViewer, specifically, is built on UltraVNC, but what it does when you run it as a host service, or ask it to connect up, is log in to their central server, and give you a nine-digit code and random password (unless you set one yourself). A remote user then fires up TeamViewer, which connects to the central server, and enters that same code and password to connect to your machine. UVNC provides a similar service that we and some others use for remote technical support - you customize a version of the VNC server that runs as a standalone, then run VNC Client in listen mode on your desktop machine (with the appropriate port forwarding if needed). The customer downloads and runs your little tweaked server, and if necessary, selects one of a number of support destinations (I have ours set for our office, and for my home PC). The server then creates the outgoing connection from their system, so no configuration of their router or firewall is necessary. The server never actually installs anything, so once you close it, it unloads from memory, and it's gone. The reason TeamViewer and its ilk are not hampered by routers, NATs, and most firewalls, is, as noted above, because it never needs to initiate an incoming connection. It creates an outgoing connect, in this case to a central "directory server", where support personnel can connect in as well, and establish a two-way link. From the description give, it sounds like these cameras operate on a very similar concept - they bypass the need for port forwarding and router configuration by simply making an outgoing connection to a dedicated Speco server; anyone wishing to access the camere then connects to the server as well with the appropriate access code and password. The beauty of this, with the TeamViewer model at least, is that you never need to know the IP or a DDNS name for the remote system; its IP could change daily, it could even change locations, and all you ever need is the access code, because once the system has an internet connection, it connects back to the server and you access it via that. If these cameras work the same way, they share the same benefits. I would suspect that once you connect to the camera, it actually creates a direct, secure (VPN-like) tunnel to the camera, so all the data isn't flowing through Speco's server. Video Insight uses this for their support.

I know the injectors will work but then that is 2 devices that have to be plugged in. What happens if you have 2 cameras and 1 AP then you need 3 injectors and a small switch so now that is 3 things that have to be plugged in and a bigger outdoor box is needed. So for three devices your spending $60 each for a injector plus a small switch 50$. Without a housing your spending $230 just to power everything. I would like to find a small 4 port 10/100 outdoor rated POE switch that could fit into a camera housing so we can make the install quicker and cheaper. POE is nice inside but 12DC is alot cheaper to install

There has to be a cheaper way to do this. The least expensive POE switch I know is 130$

So how do they work?

Sounds like some of the cameras have good lighting and some don't. The AXIS 211 is a color/day camera and does not do well without good lighting.

I must have missed the AI model, could only find colour or DN. Also the lens that comes with the camera is advertised as the 4-10mm which does not appear to have AI or be IR corrected. http://www.arecontvision.com/uploads/product_images/29Arecont_Vision_AV5155_0409pdf.pdf You are looking at the AV5155 not the AV5105. AV5105 - Day AV5105DN - Day/Night AV5105-AI - Auto-Iris

I think they make three different 5105 models: 1) day only 2) Day/Night 3) Day/Night with AI

I am also interested in this cameras low light performance. I have it quoted for 2 jobs and I hope it's good. Any body able to post some images?

Is that their cube camera and do you have it in a housing? Yes Also is that a var-focal lens your using? Yes, it is ACTi "LEN-205",MegaPixel lens, CS, 2.8~12mm, 1/3", F1.6, Manual IRIS, day/night, 102.2~23.7 degrees horizontal F.O.V Cheap. You can't beat that for the price. How is the low light on that camera and what housing are you using? I dont have night time images. But there are two 500w lights. So, plenty. Customer is happy, so I am. Just and ordinary outdoor heated housing from Taiwan. How are you powering the camera, housing and AP with one cat5? I know the camera is POE and so is the AP. Thank you for the info

http://www.securgen.com/products_1CHWencoder.asp wireless video encoder will do the trick

If your going to use IP cameras look in the the AXIS M3011 http://www.axis.com/products/cam_m3011/index.htm

Are you looking for indoor or outdoor cameras? Also just for your info any IP camera can be setup wireless.

There is no overall best. And no manufacture makes a camera for every situation. You should figure out what your trying to accomplish with the camera and then pick the best camera for that situation. From my experience Axis has the best support and warranty.

Is that their cube camera and do you have it in a housing? Yes Also is that a var-focal lens your using? Yes, it is ACTi "LEN-205",MegaPixel lens, CS, 2.8~12mm, 1/3", F1.6, Manual IRIS, day/night, 102.2~23.7 degrees horizontal F.O.V Cheap. You can't beat that for the price. How is the low light on that camera and what housing are you using?