thewireguys

I would use EnGenius for your access point. http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/Category.aspx?id=17 I just looked up the price for the new EOC-2610 is $89 wow...

Yea I just looked on there site and it looks like throughput is only 1.5 Mb/s..... that isn't gonna cut it

Try some Panasonic cameras.... http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&catGroupId=14458

It depends............. What compression are you using, how many FPS does your client require? How for away are the cameras from the access point? What access point are you going to use? Is the access point LOS to the cameras? If your using say 6 fps and Mjep-4 @ 640 * 480 and your using a good access point you shouldn't have a problem.

I have heard of Avalan but I though they where for analog cameras. I will have to look into that setup. What is the range of the non LOS? How much is a node? FireTide is about $2500 per node. We are going to use some of the new Axis cameras the M10's and the 215PTZ-e's with ipConfigure for the NVR software. I would like to use megapixel cameras but don't think they have the budget for that setup.

I am working on a solution for a borough myself. We are going to have a the NVR at the police station with about 9 cameras at that location. There are 2 remote locations need one camera each that I want to get recording on the NVR at the police station. With this setup the secretaries and the police will be able to pull up video from all the cameras on any computer in the police station. Also the police will be able to pull up the video in there cruisers so when they receive an email from one of the cameras at the remote locations they can log in and control the PTZ cameras. I am give them 2 options for the remote cameras: 1) DSL or Cable modem at the remote locations a stream the video back to the police station. 2) Trapeze point to point wireless network 3) Firetide Mesh network. This gives them the option to add more nodes and more cameras. They would also have to ability to quickly move or add temporary cameras to cover hot spots. The prices for both wireless systems are about the same for the 2 remote cameras. My problem is I don't have line of site for either remote cameras so I might have to add more nodes to get the system to work. This could drive the price up a lot. With the Trapeze network you can only have two hops and with Firetide you have have as many as you want. I am trying to get training on both systems but I am having trouble getting phone calls back from my rep. What NVR software are you planing to use? I have worked with many of them so I can give you the good, bad and the ugly if you need some help deciding.

I have never used an Intellinet camera but I have used Axis cameras and they have a "Image overlay" option. See if there is something like this in Intellinet camera.

checkout www.isonas.com They can run in stand alone mode without a pc after you program them.

Why reinvent the wheel OnSSI has there new client software that is designed for touch screens. If you have analog camera you will need to use video encoders but this is a very cool product. watch the video http://www.onssi.com/ocularis/navigation.html

Also keep in mind if our using POE switches they are only 10/100 for the camera ports and depending on the switch they have a couple of gigabyte ports for the server and linking to other switches.

600w? Wow, that may reach across the state! I assume you mean 600mw. Please let us know what you think of Trapeze and FireTide. I've heard good things about both systems but would like other opinions. Forget Motorola Canopy for IP cameras. We tried one of those for a remote location and found that the system can't maintain a continuous connection between points. We frequently had to reboot the video servers because they would lock up after each lost connection. yea I 600mw There stuff is cheap and it works I payed around 300-350 for 2 of these: http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/details.aspx?id=230 My only compliant is there are no status LEDs on the unit. Everybody that I talk to recommends FireTide for IP cameras. I am hope to get certified in there product soon.

Getting support with NVR software will be the main problem

Why not use a NVR or a hybrid dvr to do the recording? That will be your only option if Sony doesn't make a IP video decoder.

We are working with outdoor WIFI setups and you have to use the right equipment and antennas (most important) to have a reliable system. There are two types of setups Point-to-Point and Mesh networks. You would use point-to-point if your had a couple of remote cameras and a Mesh network if you wanted blanket coverage for a lot of cameras and wireless access. You can go way beyond 300 feet with the right equipment. You could use some cheap EnGenuis outdoor access points with the right antennas shoot 20 miles L.O.S. check out EnGenuis for cheap outdoor wireless products. ( I have 2 of there 600w outdoor access points they work very well) http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/ check out Trapez for enterprise setups (I have a meeting with them next week) http://www.trapezenetworks.com/ Check out FireTide for enterprise mesh networks (we are becoming partners) http://www.firetide.com/ If you have to go wireless, IP cameras are the way to go

We like Axis products and the 233d is one of the best IP PTZs on the market. It does needs to be installed in a housing to be used outside but so does every PTZ that I know of. The zoom capabilities are amazing and here are some images http://www.axis.com/products/cam_233d/index.htm

Very slow again

Use the BNC connectors!!! The adapter is one more thing that can go wrong and then you have a upset customer and a service call because you wanted to save 50 cents Do it right the first time!!!!

I agree with securitymonster. If you are serious about this system please contact a local installer.

Has anyone used there stuff? I have a 25 unit apartment building that I need to quote a telephone entry system. I would like a system that uses the computernetwork to program instead of a modem. Any ideas? Thanks

It takes longer to carry it in then to setup. It's in two pieces the stand and the T-bar. Set the stand up put the T-bar on top crank it up and plug it in that's it's. I have the access point setup so I don't have to run a network run. I need to pick up projector so I can demo to a large group of people.

Can you take any pics of your bar and post them for us?

thankyou for the quick reply well im gonna do the installaion myself i was planning on getting all 16 ip camera's well i can increase my budget a little i was thinking about four arecont 5 megapixel camera which would cost me around $3400 and then the rest of the 12 would be acti or vivotek 1.3 megapixel which run me around $3200 storage would be separate.. i am getting confused here with that acti and vivotek is a good company to go with or no and can i mix these camera's and use the free software provided by acti or vivotek if not which is the other better option i need atleast 4 good quality camera's... Don't for get the lens!! Arecont cameras don't come with Lens and good lens (most important part of megapixel cameras) aren't cheap. Acti, Vivotek and Arecont make good cameras but they would not be my first choice. Mostly because of the warranty. Acti has added a extended warrant you can buy but I don't know about the turn around time. It is unacceptable to wait 6 weeks if a camera goes bad for a repair or replacement.

thankyou for the quick reply well im gonna do the installaion myself i was planning on getting all 16 ip camera's well i can increase my budget a little i was thinking about four arecont 5 megapixel camera which would cost me around $3400 and then the rest of the 12 would be acti or vivotek 1.3 megapixel which run me around $3200 storage would be separate.. i am getting confused here with that acti and vivotek is a good company to go with or no and can i mix these camera's and use the free software provided by acti or vivotek if not which is the other better option i need atleast 4 good quality camera's... I have to agree with thewireguys but seems like you have all the answers, Good luck. i am getting confused here with that acti and vivotek is a good company to go with or no and can i mix these camera's and use the free software provided by acti or vivotek if not which is the other better option i need atleast 4 good quality camera's... I do not recommend any software from any camera manufactures. If you do keep in mind you can only use cameras from that company and the software usually isn't that good. I think that the NVR software is one of the most important chooses you have to make when designing a IP system. Good software is easy to use. One thing alot of people over look is the time it takes to find and pull recorded footage off a NVR, DVR or VCR. Are you going to record all the time or only on motion? Camera or Server based motion detection is an art not a science if your not using video analytics. Most NVR software can be downloaded for a free trial so I would pick up one IP camera and download some software to test it out. You can run most of the demo software on a old computer laying around to test it out. I have demoed on our server every major NVR software manufacture out there. I can recommend ipConfigure as the best overall. It's not the cheapest and it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles but it is very easy to use and it has the best none analytic motion detection on the market. If you would like a demo of the software let me know. The best advice I can give you is go with a professional. We work with this stuff every day and some of us (like myself) day and night. If you us the right software with the right cameras you will have a very good security system that you can rely on for many year. If you don't your going to spend a lot of money on a system that doesn't work. Thank you The Wire Guys

Are you using analog or IP cameras?

Does your budget include labor? Your gonna spend around $2000- $3000 on the server. Plus the NVR software at $100- $200 per camera. Cheap analog cameras can be had for $100. Megapixel cameras are going to start at around $600. Plus your going to need DVR cards or video encoders and that is going to be around $1500. Plus wire, power supplies, UPS, housings $500-$1000. For 16 cameras your in the $10,000-$15000 range without labor for a good system. And I didn't even get into storage. How log so you want to store the footage?