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Ok, I just installed a 10ct 320 dvr (Kalatel) in a bar. He wanted to keep the outside cameras (front & back) that I have going to 2 seperate monitors that he had from his old system. The 8 of my cameras are working excellent. His old system was a Wal-Mart style with the cat5 going into the back of the monitors that processed 4 cameras. What I have done was I used one monitor/camera that he already had for the front and the same for the back, so he could easily see people entering & leaving. It looks good on the 2 monitors. The problem I have is when I used the rca (video) and adapted it to coax to run it to the dvr, the pictures are messed up. It has wavy lines that run up the monitor (main monitor for all cameras), kind of like a tracking problem on a VHS tape. It is about a 50' run from his old monitors to the dvr location & main monitor. I even tried running a 50' rca cable with a adapter to bnc & it did the same thing. WHAT IS GOING ON!!! I also install dish network, and have came across a couple of boosters from the cable company. But this being my first main install, I don't know if these type of boosters can be used, or if it would fry the system. Please anyone help if they can. The bar owner is getting a little upset, since the install was done a while back, & I still don't have this resolved. Also, I cant get rest of payment until this is resolved. Thanks in advanced!!! BTW, I AM A NEWBIE!!! Brad Wright (765)251-1110

just gonna leave the cord for now. He is talking about remodeling/rewireing soon, so I might do it then. Thanks alot. BRAD

Can I just say that "YOU ARE THE MAN"!!! I ran the extension cord over and works perfectly. It's nice to know people can count on you and this site for help. Thanks again!!! Brad

Thanks, I'll try it first thing tomorrow. Brad

I guy called me to put in a Kalatel dvrm 320-ct-10. He currently has a "Wal-Mart" system in which the video and power is ran through a cat5 type cable. I havn't been doing this long, but is there some sort of converter or box that will adapt/process to bnc for what I need (cat to bnc)? He doesn't want to upgrade his cameras. Sorry if this is a repost. Just looking for quick help. Thanks, Brad

Would something like this work??? http://pc15.flashecom.com/espec2/ssdept.asp?dept_id=008-021 If so, which one. Since the power is supplied through the rj11 cable, would the G.E. dvrme 10ct-320 be able to backfeed enough power to work the cameras? Thanks, Brad

Thanks for the info. I know the cameras are crap, but he isn't wanting to buy new ones. I hate to loose the sale over it, but I'll talk to him again and see what he says. Thanks, Brad

Which DVR has the most audio inputs? I was wanting to stay with Kalatel, but don't think they have more than 1 channel audio. I am trying to get an account with our local jail. They are seriously lacking video surveillance, but they are also wanting more audio. Any help? Brad

I was looking for an embedded OS dvr with 2+ audio. These are windows based aren't they (http://www.silicor.com)? Thanks, Brad

Not sure, but could someone tell me if the system at the bottom of Rory's link is the same as in this link... http://www.pluscctv.com/digital_video.htm The only visual difference I see is the far right control. Are these DigiTek's? If so, this place is selling them for $700 (4CH), 1,100 (8CH), and $1,300 (16CH). This place is about 1 1/2 hr. from my house. If they are total trash, I won't look into them. But a couple people wanting estimates was wanting 4ch dvr with day/night camera's, and this is the only thing in their budget. $1,129.00 for the dvr, cameras, cable, power, tv w/vcr, and everything else needed for a full install. I realize the camera's are cheaper, but if this is all they can afford, I might have to go with it if it means getting or not getting the job. Thanks, Brad

Has anyone done an upgrade from a multiple camera system with multiplexer? Just replace the VCR with a single channel DVR. Is there much quality loss than dumping the multiplexer and putting in a multichanner DVR? Let me know of any suggestions or experiences. Thanks, Brad

I have an unlimited supply of free rg6 cable. Will this be fine to run the camera's? I know that cable isn't the most expensive part of intallations. But if you had all the free rg6 cable you want, would you do it? Also, almost everything I will install is under 250 foot. If for some reason, rg6 isn't good enough, I found decent deals on a couple others. Here are the descriptions: 1. RG-59U Standard Shield, 1000Ft, Pull Box Gauge: 22AWG Impedance: 75OHM Shielding %: 100% AL Stranding: 16/4/0.12/AL Nominal Outside Diameter: 6.0+/-0.15MM $35.00 shipped 2. 500ft of RG59/U Non-Plenum CCTV cable. Manufactured by Genesis Cable Systems, L.L.C $28.00 shipped 3. Commscope 5575 1000-Ft Satellite Rg59 Coax Cable (Spool) 20 AWG, Solid CCS, Series 59, Non-Plenum, 75 Ohm $75.00 shipped Thanks, Brad

I was browsing the VDR's manual, and it didn't say anything about motion recording. Does it not offer it? Since school is only in session about 8 hrs per day, there is about 16 hours that no one is in the schools. However I would like motion recording in case someone broke in!!! What was you trying to say about the search feature? The manual said it can search by camera and time. Thanks, Brad

That might work out fine. They are currently running no audio or remote access at the schools. Like I said, I really didn't read into the VDR much, but I imagine you can record as many cameras as the multiplexor allows, right? As stated before, they are running Pelco multiplexors. I just need to make sure the VDR's are compatible with pelco. Also, does it have the same call back/search options that the others have? Thanks, Brad

Thanks, actually I was finally able to get them downloaded. I think I will check into these. I am currently getting set up with a couple of distributors an hour away. Hey, any experiences with the "VDR". I will be hitting the local school system next month. They have nice Pelco cameras and multiplexors. This might be a cheap upgrade for them. From the little I read on the VDR's, they work almost the same as vcr's. Of course with vhs, when I try to play something back on a multipexor, IT SUCKS!!! The recorded tape isn't fluid, and sometimes it jumps off the "called" camera. I actually work as a school cop at one of the schools (part time), so I think I have a good chance of getting an account with them. Anyways, fast replies!!! Thanks, Brad

Rory, how does the Kalatel storesafe preform? I was just looking at it on GE's website today. I couldn't get the pdf brochure to download. Is it 16 channel, and what is inside? Thanks, Brad

First off, glad I found this board. I am starting to install systems on a part time basis. My full time job is a cop, and I can't believe the price business owners are paying for a digital system install. So I decided to do some installations to make some extra cash. My accountant is getting all the small business stuff done for me (tax, ID, etc.) This will be my first install. It is a gas station. The owner already has a 16 camera pc based digital system. His system is maxed out. He has 4 more cameras at the store, and wants them hooked up. His current system is nice and I want to be able to install something as good if not better. His system playback has zoom, can go back to scenes easily, can view from home, and other stuff that I can't think of right now. He wants at least a 8 camera system and possibly 12. I understand most all the basics (such as fps, etc.). I am just having a hard time figuring out which systems are reliable and which are not. Is there any way I can link this system up so he can view it as well as the other system from his house? What and where can I find a system that suits his needs. I have a list of about 15 websites that I am trying to choose from. Also, are most sites "middle men" who I can bypass and by cheaper from the manufacturer since I am opening my own company? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Brad

I just got everything together for my business. I want to find a place where I can mainly buy cameras and cables from. I am more concerned about the product line than I am $$'s. I would rather deal with one company that is just a little more expensive than a dozen different that have slightly better prices. Also, I am from Indiana and will only be doing local (1hr away) installments for now. The business name is Digital Security Systems. A few minutes ago I bought www.dssindiana.com. Hopefully it will be up and running within a couple of weeks. I won't be selling anything on the web, or even keeping anything in stock. I will order as needed for installation. If anyone can direct me to a site or business, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Brad

What about this site? http://www.shopsentryguard.com I was looking on ebay, and came across a few auctions from this company. The first link is for a system with cameras and the last 3 is for systems only. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3070875702&category=48634 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066294487&category=48634 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066294459&category=48634 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066294441&category=48634 Let me know what you think. Thanks, Brad

That site is nice. Is there any other sites that others can refer me to? Thanks, Brad

What are people doing wrong in setting up the operating systems. Or are you just talking about certain cards not working right? Any suggestions? Brad

He is currently using a BDS 1500 DVR from the site below. http://www.bestdvr.com/products.asp?pID=17 Here's something I just found out. That card used to be limited to only 16 cameras. Now it can be upgraded to 32. Just found that out on their site today. When he had it installed, they told him the max was 16 cameras. So what I am now trying to figure out is if the FPS is enough. The card is 120fps. So with 20 cameras the fps would be 6, and with 24 cameras it would be 5, right? Do you think this enough FPS? Or with the addtion of the other card, will it somehow be able to hold more FPS? Let me know what you think. Brad