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does NV5000 fit in a dell vostro 230 mini tower? --thanks

ok great... i'm thinking about updating a friend of mines old dvr card to 2 of these cards with 2 extensions as he can't spend $1000 for a higher end card

I would say also get a DVR card that can also do IP cameras for the future... Avermedia PCIe cards come to mind..

locally you have to use the LOCAL IP... not the outside ip... what is the local IP of the dvr server? if your local network is 192.168.1.1 then you have to type in local address on local network...

$400

HTML 5 Compliance anyone? Just wondering if any of the major companies are looking into HTML 5 as a solution for viewing cameras over the web? Along with that it would be MUCH easier to also have a universal PDA/iPhone/SmartPhone version.. Think anyone is even looking at that?

i've seen a few cheap hardware compression cards that the compression algorithim that they use is horrible!! and the playback is very bad..

A potential client wants the DVR computer to be in a lockbox/cabnet type enclosure to ensure no one can tamper with it or turn it off... you guys use anything like this? or there a certain PC case i can use?

$450

i just gave up and install the remote console... i had it working with windows 7 but hosed my setup when i was trying to find out why it didn't work on another machine

Avermedia are some of the easiest cards out there... they just work and there are constant updates.... work perfectly on blackberry, iphones, and andriods... VERY easy to use for non tech savy

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/02/070204/Pub-Patrons-Down-Under-Subject-To-Biometric-Datamining Pub Patrons Down Under Subject To Biometric Datamining Just saw this on slashdot

Anyone have any video of CNB 34VF WDR pointing at a bright door? maybe even a 24vf vs 34vf comparison ?

just got a response from avermedia - the DVR app is NOT multi threaded... SO it's at least using one core for video and the other core (assuming dual core) for all other things. This is still fine by me as i went from a single core machine VERY slow to do anything else.. to a dual core and then all other functions worked just like normal. Very big difference, And all video is good and nothing is laggy with the dual core. So no biggie on my side.

looks like there is a newer version of the iPhone app (Jan 20 2011)and it needs iOS 4.2 or better software.. Anyone try this out yet? i have an older jailbroken 3.1.3 one around and can't test it. 3.0.0.7 to now 3.1.0.0007 what changes have been made? Anyone want to give it a shot? as i look for a jailbroken firmware for this thing. Update... they added an Address Book so you can have multiple sites that you can log into.

even the more basic dvr systems have "motion detection" and it's all software based.. so the motion based recording is kinda just a standard anymore done via software. This isn't something you need to think about to much when picking cameras.. as it's the software that decides/programs this.

I just send avermedia a question on their 64 bit software and if it's a multithreaded app optimized for multiple core cpu's

i'm mostly responding to the origional posters "general questions" and giving ideas and tips that i think will help educate him... calling 3-4 IP companies and getting some FREE input from them is invaluable. 3-4 different tools that will get you the same end result you are looking at. Even from the avigilon site it says their installers are also trained in network design and system design. Thats all i was trying to convey... is to talk to as many people as possible. Thats all no more no less... i'm talking "in general" terms... not literal. If i go to build a house on my own for the first time... i call a few general contractors and ask them for an estimate and ask them questions... I ask all the 5 plumbers i called to give estimates questions and all the drywall people questions... but only 2 of them say you need the "green" drywall in the bathrooms because of the moisture... soo i just learned something on the way. this is all i'm trying to get at. The OP is actually learning as he goes as am i here. Having 3-4 software vendors fighting for your business is a good thing... and you pick at their brains for info.

I understand what your saying about the companies telling you their software is the best....but the whole point was to call multiple Software companies and gather info from all of them on and what they think may be needed design and networking wise. At the end of the day the specs aren't going to be to far off from each other. You really think the developers of the IP software no know nothing about networking? I bet you a beer that if you call up and say i need a 100 camera system can you help me spec it out with what networking equipment i will need and such... you seriously think they will say Sorry we can't help you... no idea about this networking stuff? They will help you because they want to sell you their software. Even if it's an added fee they will help you... and if one company doesn't help then go to one that will. Again i have never called any IPcam company and asked these questions so i really don't know... but i would be in complete shock if an IP camera software company couldn't help in this regard. It's also free to ask questions, so never hurts.

+1 to what tom just said... these software companies have done this before and know what you will be needing storage wise and network wise. They should be able to assist greatly and give you better idea on the big picture.

also don't forget since we are doing doorways the cameras need to handle backlighting very well... "WDR" is keyword here... Wide Dynamic Range Here is a sony video of a megapix camera with "WDR" function they call it View-DR heavy backlighting on a doorway could lead to no face shot at all.. And as for software for the ip cameras... what are you thinking? exacq milestone (check out their customer story section) the copenheagan casino has 200+ cameras I have never used either one of these but a phone call to either company will give you a LOT of answers.

i agree with the wireguys...each cameara lets take a guess is about 1meg a second (wild gess and could be completely wrong) 500megs a second is a pretty big load on any school network. Imagine 500 computers(cameras) on the network streaming a live movie off the internet. Just to put it into perspective for the network guys. wireguys is very knowledgeable so just going off his idea... each building is going to need it's own switches that are in turn connected to main system via fiber backbone? wireguys this a good extremely general setup? And as for the Proposalman i understand what you are looking for now... just some general info on every aspect so you dont go into a meeting without doing some research... good ip cameras go from $500-700 each for fixed ones and up to $3000 for PTZ(pan, tilt, zoom) megapix cameras. 30+ POE(power over ethernet) or if there is power 30 regular routers + install time per camera/building... A LOT of labor will be involved for the possible extra cabling. Since this is a big project you may have to do it in stages... and test the results one building/area at a time.. so lets do one building and it's outer areas... then step back and review the results make changes to what you want.... analyize the network, then move on to next building/area when happy. Get several proposals if you can. Compare and take your time!

go with avermedia it's the easiest software out there! Trust me... Also there is an iPhone app and blackberry App for viewing remotely on phones that works perfectly! The guy above who said it was hard i really don't know what he's talking about. Also Avermedia has been around a long time and there is support for it on the internet(like this board)... If you go and get a cheap brand.... good luck on finding help. tomcctv have you had a chance to use this box yet? they are priced just right for the small shops that don't want to spend a lot of money...

how many cameras are you thinking about?

thanks i saw this you tube video and was pretty impressed... it's just hard to make a decision when most places have a restocking fee... and a restocking fee on $800 camera is not cheap. now i want video on Panasonic...