dmiller9

Is there any other manufacture other then avigilon making cameras that support JPEG2000 compression? I did a quick search and saw that ikegami makes a couple. W What is everyones option on this compression standard? Any other VMS software that supports this compression?

I know this is a little off topic as its not access control but didn't know what forum to put it in. Right now we have hardwired panic buttons located thru 5 floors all connected via the Honeywell Ademco Vista 128 security panel. We have 22 buttons, 3 LED annunciator panels and 2- disarming keypads. There are input boards in the field fed by a twisted 3 pair 22 cable back to the main panel. they are looking at having better annunciation with perhaps mapping (visual from 10 feet away). I think they want to stay away from wireless panic buttons. Anyone have any ideas on what product I should be looking at using?

Anyone know of a company that monitors video surveillance systems remotely?

This is probably your best option if you don't want to spend a lot of money. $80 router and a little time to flash it. Running software on the computer itself to throttle bandwidth is never ideal.

You would need to get a managed switch.

What did I get wrong? it depends how you interpret your trick question. also like soundy says its differant in state codes. which is not the same as your answer which is power and data in the same cable not data and power (24v) seperate in the same conduit Your right. Sorry this is the correct section of the code. 16-212 Separation of Class 2 circuit conductors from other circuits (1) Conductors of Class 2 circuits shall be separated at least 50 mm from insulated conductors of electric lighting, power, or Class 1 circuits operating at 300 V or less, and shall be separated at least 600 mm from any insulated conductors of electric lighting, power, or Class 1 circuits operating at more than 300 V, unless for both conditions effective separation is afforded by use of (a) metal raceways for the Class 2 circuits or for the electric lighting, power, and Class 1 circuits subject to the metal raceway being bonded to ground; (b) metal-sheathed or armoured cable for the electric lighting, power, and Class 1 circuit conductors subject to the sheath or armour being bonded to ground; © non-metallic-sheathed cable for the electric lighting, power, and Class 1 circuits operating at 300 V or less; or (d) non-metallic conduit, electrical non-metallic tubing, insulated tubing, or equivalent, in addition to the insulation on the Class 2 circuit conductors or the electric lighting, power, and Class 1 circuit conductors. (2) Where the electric lighting or power conductors are bare, all Class 2 circuit conductors in the same room or space shall be enclosed in a metal raceway that is bonded to ground, and no opening, such as an outlet box, shall be permitted to be located within 2 m of the bare conductors if up to and including 15 kV or within 3 m of bare conductors above 15 kV. (3) Unless the conductors of the Class 2 circuits are separated from the conductors of electric lighting, power, and Class 1 circuits by an acceptable barrier, the conductors in Class 2 circuits shall not be placed in any raceway, compartment, outlet box, junction box, or similar fitting with the conductors of electric lighting, power, or Class 1 circuits. (4) Subrule (3) shall not apply where the conductors of a power circuit are in the raceway, compartment, outlet box, junction box, or similar fitting for the sole purpose of supplying power to the Class 2 circuits, and all conductors are insulated for the maximum voltage of any conductor in the enclosure, cable, or raceway, except that no Class 2 conductor installed in a raceway, compartment, outlet box, junction box, or similar fitting with such conductors of a power circuit shall show a green-coloured insulation, unless such Class 2 conductor is completely contained within a sheathed

I guess I don't know what you are trying to say in the your reply then. dmiller9. take a read though your own findings and you will see where YOU have got it wrong. you have over looked a simple mistake. What did I get wrong?

Thanks. An integrator that knows his stuff. Props to you.

I guess I don't know what you are trying to say in the your reply then.

And thats where you are wrong. In both Canada and the USA that would be illegal. You can only mix Class 2 low voltage with data cableing. The above mentioned power supply is not Class2 because or the current carry ability You would have to fuse the output of the power supply to limit the current output. Like I said this was a trick question and not many people know about this rule. The other thing you are mistake about is the reason for this rule has nothing to do with interfearance. It has everything to do with safety. Just like mixing 120V with data cableing its all about safety not interfearance. This is a couple importatant sections copied from the CEC. "16-012 Circuits in communication cables (1) Class 1 circuits shall not be run in the same cable with communication circuits. (2) Class 2 remote control and signal circuits or their parts that use conductors in a cable assembly with other conductors forming parts of communication circuits are, for the purpose of this Code, deemed to be communication circuits and shall conform to the applicable Rules of Section 60." This is the defention of a Class 2 circuit. If it doesn't meet these requirements then it can not be ran in the same conduit as a data cable. "16-200 Limitations of Class 2 circuits (see Appendix B) (1) Class 2 circuits, depending upon the voltage, shall have the current limited as follows: (a) 0 to 20 V — circuits in which the open-circuit voltage does not exceed 20 V shall have overcurrent protection rated at not more than 5 A, except that overcurrent protection shall not be required where the current is supplied from (i) primary batteries that under short-circuit will not supply a current exceeding 7.5 A after 1 min; (ii) a Class 2 circuit transformer; (iii) a device having characteristics that will limit the current under (iv) a device having a Class 2 output; (b) Over 20 V but not exceeding 30 V — circuits in which the open-circuit voltage exceeds 20 V but does not exceed 30 V shall have an overcurrent protection rating not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the open-circuit voltage, except that the overcurrent protection shall not be required where the current is supplied from (i) primary batteries that under short-circuit will not supply a current exceeding 5 A after 1 min; (ii) a Class 2 circuit transformer; (iii) a device having characteristics that will limit the current under normal operating conditions or under fault conditions to a value not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the open-circuit voltage; or (iv) a device having a Class 2 output; © Over 30 V but not exceeding 60 V — circuits in which the open-circuit voltage exceeds 30 V but does not exceed 60 V shall have an overcurrent protection rating not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the open-circuit voltage, except that the overcurrent protection shall not be required where the current is supplied from (i) a Class 2 circuit transformer; or (ii) a device having characteristics that will limit the current under normal operating conditions or under fault conditions to a value not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the open-circuit voltage; (d) Over 60 V but not exceeding 150 V — circuits in which the open-circuit voltage exceeds 60 V but does not exceed 150 V shall have an overcurrent protection rating not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the open-circuit voltage, and in addition shall be equipped with current-limiting means other than overcurrent protection that will limit the current, either under normal operating conditions or under fault conditions, to a value not exceeding 100/V amperes, where V is the opencircuit voltage. (2) A device having energy-limiting characteristics may consist of a series resistor of suitable rating or other similar device. (3) A Class 2 power supply shall not be connected in series or parallel with another Class 2 power source."

Trick question guys. If I have a 10A 24VAC power supply powering a camera using 2C/14AWG wiring can I run that cable in the same conduit as the data cable?

Sounds like an arecont problem then. I have been running exacq at 12 different sites running vivotek, Sony and Panasonic cameras and have never had this problem.

There could be lots of reasons for this. I would be examining your network to to see if you might have an unstable network connection to that camera. How many hops does it take to get to the camera? Have all the lines to that camera been certified? Is the network a dedicated camera network?

Thats right. Just before ISC Exacq has released version 4.9 which now includes thumbnail search.

Lunch? I'm thinking about the bar! Exacq integrators need lots of drinks without lots of vodka camera tend to loose connections then integrators loosing their mind But my post was about local Edmonton lunch Lets do lunch next week.

Anyone know who I can buy Genetec Omnicast Pro from as a box sale? --Duncan

This is what the exacq rep sent me. "Here is the scoop: other companies can purchase the Exacq software and re-brand it. What this means is, ie. ABC company purchases an Exacq license and installs it onto their own server. They then brand the Exacq system as "ABC" and sell it with whatever support they offer. Another big OEM partner is IVT. "

What is everyones opinion on putting IP Cameras on an existing network? What are the issues that might arise, security and performance? Pros and Cons? Personally I am not for putting IP cameras on a existing network unless its an extremely small system. Just want to hear what everyone else has to say.

Vanco makes all sorts of baluns and video distribution products and they are reliable and not that expensive. Check them out. http://www.vanco1.com/

I think people are forgetting why in a typical office environment you are suppose to use a patch cable and not just put a RJ-45 connectors on the UTP cable. The cable ran through the walls or in the ceiling is a solid core conductor and is not designed to be bent or moved excessively. If you just terminate the solid conductor coming out of the wall over time as equipment is moved the conductor will break down causing unreliable network connectivity. I have seen this happen so many times over the years. This is why best practice states terminate a keystone at a wall jack and use factory made patch cable made out of stranded UTP. At the head end it is best practice to install a patch panel to allow equipment to be moved and replaced. Patch cables are easily replaced with shorter or longer lengths as needed. Now as for terminating a RJ-45 plug on the field end of a camera. I don’t think there is anything wrong with doing so as the cable connecting to the camera will not be moved excessively so there is no chance for the cable to break down over time. There is also nothing wrong with putting a surface mount box inside an enclosure and using a patch cable. Both are acceptable in my opinion. One thing you should never do is use terminate a RJ-45 plug and use a coupler. Panasonics first generation of IP cameras came with a RJ-45 Plug on the camera and a coupler. That coupler Panasonic included could not pass certification as most of them will not.

I have found more problems with the feed though RJ-45 plugs then the regular plugs. I never use them however a couple I have had to go to a couple of jobs to troubleshoot cameras where they were used only to find that they have shorted out and blown ports on POE switches. Definitely should not be used if you are planning on powering the camera with POE.

Just a heads up if anyone is running exacq. They have released a new version now 4.8.

What was the bug in the search page?

12/09/2011 v4.8.10.28429 * Enhancement - Updated online help with new features. * Bug Fix - In Linux, Correctly determine if in wide screen on startup. 12/02/2011 v4.8.9.28364 * Bug Fix - In exacqReplay, adjusted window height to accommodate ruler. * Bug Fix - In exacqReplay, reduced flicker of ruler when downloading frames. * Bug Fix - Display partial export message when export is limited by space. * Bug Fix - Reduced Search Panel's Fast Forward and Frame Forward button flicker when downloading video and playback reaches end of downloaded frames * Bug Fix - Fixed the bug that seems to randomly set the calendar when the start and end time are beyond the 1000 seconds (16.67min) limit. * Bug Fix - In Linux on Search, restored height of spin buttons and the ability to click down arrow. * Bug Fix - Switch to Play state if reach end of downloaded frames while Fast Forwarding 12/01/2011 v4.8.8.28325 * Enhancement - Czech translation. * Bug Fix - Enable ps file only export in burn to cd/dvd profile. 11/30/2011 v4.8.7.28297 * Bug Fix - Possible crash when saving a multiple camera image. * Bug Fix - F1/Help for Live and Search now go to the proper help pages. * Bug Fix - Resolved crash in linux when display exacqRecall Setup panel. 11/30/2011 v4.8.6.28287 * Bug Fix - Increased TCP Receive Buffer size. * Bug Fix - Live video panel now honors mouse scrollwheel. * Bug Fix - Changed the progress status in export from indeterminate mode to percentage range from 0-100. * Bug Fix - With a Joystick, Don't enable Digital PTZ if not allowed. * Bug Fix - Config updates no longer cause config pages to scroll back to upper left. * Bug Fix - Client no longer jumps to another camera or parent config panel when editing the config of a camera and a config update comes in. * Bug Fix - On Mac, GUI artifacts are now removed during a full-screen double-click "1-by" to original layout transition. * Bug Fix - Find Systems List can now be properly sorted. 11/23/2011 v4.8.5.28215 11/23/2011 v4.8.4.28209 * Enhancement - Truly dynamic ruler bar in Search. * Enhancement - Updated visual aesthetic in Search. * Enhancement - Save serial data with still image. * Enhancement - Support CHMSEE in Ubuntu 11.10 for viewing help file. * Bug Fix - Ensure bad PTZ Speed values do not get put into client settings. * Bug Fix - Do not create duplicate localhost and 127.0.0.1 entries in the Client ini file. * Bug Fix - Add default file extension to settings export. * Bug Fix - check the state of the cd/dvd media and viewer app to allow different export options. 11/15/2011 v4.8.3.28061 * Enhancement - Time pickers respond to mouse wheel. * Enhancement - Client export of *.exe or *.ps includes OSD configuration data that is used by ePlayer. * Bug Fix - Finalize Playing alert sound in Event Monitoring. * Bug Fix - ExacqRecall now properly checks whether to allow expansion * Bug Fix - Some OSD font colors were not preserved through other font changes in Windows Clients. * Bug Fix - Allow IP Camera Time Server Override to be changed on servers without time configuration. 10/19/2011 v4.8.2.27767 - Dev * Enhancement - Added setting in Client Config to hide sunken borders on live and search video panels. * Enhancement - exacqRecall - support updated exacqRecall features. * Enhancement - Play alert sound in Event Monitoring. * Bug Fix - Pressing F1 (Help) on the Enterprise Notifications page now brings up the help viewer on the correct page. * Bug Fix - Fixed Mac Enterprise User crash when adding new user to fewer than all available systems. * Bug Fix - Schedule change XML only shows items whose schedule changed thus improving the audit of schedule changes. * Bug Fix - When modifying maps, sometimes a message shows saying that a system or set of systems have rejected the map update even though later investigation shows that the update was successful. * Bug Fix - Live maps will continue updating item status after switching to search or config modes and then back to live mode. * Bug Fix - Fixed calculations for placement of video panel. * Bug Fix - Client and ePlayer no longer display non-printable characters received from serial data source. * Bug Fix - For POS Profiles, always show new blank row for Mask and Keywords. * Bug Fix - On System Information Panel, stop time conversion to 24-hour mode if already in 24-hour mode * Bug Fix - Digital PTZ saved in a view work in Search again. Broken in 4.7.6

You don't have to buy the Exacq hardware. You can use a dell server to make your boss happy along with any supported encoders from Sony, Axis, or Acti and create your own hybrid server. I would not recommend using the ACTi software as you are locking yourself into ACTi only product. As for your camera chocies GVI is no longer so I would not buy any GVI product and not sure if you can even get GVI product anymore. I have used both ACTi and sony cameras before and I would choose Sony over ACTi every time. Best image quality on the market.