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Did you check to see if the CORE software allows for driving two monitors? Also, you can put two Hikvision cards in one server. I have four in one right now, which I think is over doing it, and may be slowing down my speed for getting the video out of that box. But I would think you could do two without a problem. Highly recommend doing this all with Gigabit speed (Cat 6 wires, and 10/100/1000 nic cards and switch and router)

Yes, Hikvision is really a nice looking DVR. It is the first DVR card I have seen where the video looks as good as NTSC. Other manufactures are coming out with hardware compression h.264 solutions such as Geovision. My hikvision solution came with Netvision software, which really is not very developed in many ways. (Like you can not even export to an .avi file from the software). I'm in the middle of a 70 camera install, so I'll be able to report more when I am all done. But the idea is for you to use the LAN to have multiple PCs driving multiple LCD monitors. KEEP IN MIND that the card you are looking at will do D1, BUT you can't stream too many cameras out of it before you have real big delays in your video through the LAN. You can go to 2CIF resolution, and that will allow you to active the "substream" which will devert some of the processing power to sending video out over the LAN, so that you don't have delays. I'm still having delays even using the substream, but my supllier is going to be working with me to tweak things so that it will work. Also note that the Netivision software that comes with most Hikvision cards does not support dual monitors. Hopefully they will come up with that soon, as it is kind of a basic feature to be missing. Thare are some 3rd party manufactures out there. Search for CyeWeb 2.1.8 and CORE, and Linovision software.

I'm just curious if anyone knows what 640x240 resolution is all about. I have run into it on a DVR system, and can't quite understand it. If the resolution is 640x240, would that not be a rather wide screen resolution? Yet everything is still in the 4:3 resolution. Thanks, Matt

That's the best explanation I have seen so far. That makes sense. I guess that means it is actually "progressive" video, lacking an "A" and "B" field.

The actually machine I am seeing this on is an Intellex DVR system. Most Intellex I have seen I think are 4CIF, so I took a double take when I saw this one. When I play it back within the system, it looks 4:3. It's only about 2 years old, so I find it kind of strange that the manufacture was making some with only 50% quality, especially considering the cheap prices of hard drives now. But those big companies always have big price tags and minimal bang. (But super good support). Thanks all for your input. Matt

Humm... did not realize this thread was still active. Turns out it was my chipset. It was a Dell box, and Dell treats the chipset / motherboard information like a State secret. I stuck it in another Dell Vostro, and it worked fine. So I guess it was the chipset. Thanks. Matt

Maybe someone here can help, as Avermedia seems to have a "ignore" policy on tech support. I have installed a new 6480 express into a new Dell Box ( intel core-2 duo with 2gb, and Radeon HD 5400 series video card with 512 meg ram). When starting the software, it asks for user name and password, but then it freezes up on "System Starting, please wait". I can't even do a CTL ALT DEL. Any ideas? I'm wondering if it is a bad card.

Generally speaking, most of the short run cables that come with these cameras are really very thin, with little shielding compared to RG-59 or RG-6 coax. For example, if you buy a DVD player it will come with cheap patch cords that would be fine for video editing, as they are only 3 feet long. When you get into long runs, you should be using a thick black cable that says RG-6 or RG-59 on it. But I'm not entirely sure that is your problem. The voltage reading might be more interesting. Also, it is always good to test these systems on the bench. Hook up your two offending cameras with a 6 foot patch cord, and try recording for 24 hours with full room light with nothing room light. Then see how many "glitches" you get. Anyway, before you get a regulated power supply, it would be interesting to see what you are pulling now, and how things work out in a bench test, if you go that far with the troubleshooting. What a great use for a TRV900. I paid $2000 for mine back in 1999, and that thing was a real workhorse. I think it was the smallest 3-chip camera of its time. Matt

First of all, looking at your video subject, can I assume you are working for Homeland Security? Or is this project being done with stimulus funds?!?! What kind of coax are you using to connect the cheaper cameras to your Aver? If you have the really cheap thin wire stuff that may be part of your problem, especially if you have them running a distance with splice connectors in between. Also, you may be right on the power supply. Try taking a volt meter, and read the power at the camera side to see what you are actually getting. If it is an unregulated power supply, you may have to do this while the camera is drawing current. Also, it is possible that some of your problem is simply noise in the picture. It may be recording when it sees low light noise, in addition to your vertical bar roll.

That sound like the kind of thing you would just have to try out. But don't forget with a DVR, it's not just one bandwidth at any given moment in tiem. The bandwidth changes according to motion (assuming motion setting) and number of cameras active at any given time. It might be fine with one camera, but perhaps with 5 running at one time, you will not be able to get the data written fast enought over the network. So, you might test it with one camera, but then try three or four. Also, I would think you would want a newer Gigabyte NIC and NAS and switch. Report back, and let us know how it goes. Might come in handy someday.

I had the same problem when I upgraded, (1/2 distorted pictures ONLY on the IP cams) and I finally figured out my video card was too underpowered. I upgraded, and it worked fine. The card currently installed is a Radion HD 3400 with 512 meg ram. What video card (computer display video card, not aver) are you currently using?

Can you tell me what you exported to? You should have had an option. Export to .mpg, .avi or .dvr. Which did you choose? When you say you can "play it on the avermedia software", what software are you talking about? Do you just mean that you can play the .mpg or .avi file on your Aver CPU? What outside viewer are you trying to play the file on? Windows Media Player? Some more detail, and maybe we can figure something out.

Normally, the first thing I would do at this point is test the camera a the location it is installed. Use a test monitor. Is it working at that point? If it is not, I would pull it down and bench test it. Test it with the current power supply you have running to it now. If that doesn't work, try using a different power supply. A bench test might tell you a lot. Being that more than one camera is not working, it doesn't seem like it is the camera though. The next possible situation would be that the DVR is so picky as to how perfectly in sync the camera is, that it is not accepting certain cameras. I had a situation like this once with a specific camera, and I happen to own a TBC (Time Base Corrector). When I went through the TBC, it worked fine. But if your systems is needing a TBC for both a Pelco and a Nuvico camera, there there is certainly something wrong with your DVR... it should not be that picky!

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Hello. To do what you want to do, you need to get a VGA to NTSC (or PAL) video converter. Type in VGA2NTSCPRO on Google. This will turn you VGA single into a composite video signal that you can route via coax to your Geovision system. This will record everything that happens. WARNING: Do keep in mind though that the quality will be a little poor, as the NTSC or PAL signal will not be as good as the VGA signal. I've seen a set up like this at a coffee shop, and you could get a general idea of what was going on with the POS, but the smaller text was not readable. You will want to play with the screen resolution options on that computer, to see what can give you the biggest text, and yet not have to scroll too much. The whole thing will be trial & error, you won't really know how it will look without having a converter to test it out. Matt

Well, if it is truley a Hikvision card, than perhaps hikvision will be able to help you. I would install the Netvision trial software, as that is what Hikvision uses when they ship a card. You will want to give them the processor information you have, and let them know the exact problem. It sure sounds like a software problem because of the fact that you get the video locallay. That makes it seem more like a software problem. On the other other hand, if it is doing it with multiple programs and multiple computers, it sure seems like a hard ware problem. I would try and see how responsive Hikvision is.

With a built in video graphics card, I would consider looking at an external card... even a cheap one will have lots more ram than the built in one on the mother board. If you are not getting a new one, at least check to see how much memory is allocated to it in the BIOS options. Sometimes they are adjustable, and you can devote more ram to the video processor.

I don't use those cards, but are you using a good amount of ram on this system? What OS? Also, are you using a built in video card on the motherboard, or did you install a separate one? You can sometimes get by with the onboard, but often you will need to by an external card. If using onbard, sometimes the bios gives you an option to increase the ram allocation to the video card. Might want to tweak it.

I had that problem here in the US, and so I made a change from port 80 to port 8888. It just meant that you had to add the :8888, which was kind of annoying.

Using Netvision on the same card, I had blank screens just like you, and it turned out to be a permissions problem. I had logged the client into a user name that did not have permission from the server to stream video. But looking at your error code, it does seem more like a codec problem. Hopefully you can get some tech support from the people that sold the card to you.

The hikvision card I have came with what looks like Netvision software. It has no way to directly export a clip form the program as an .avi. You need to use their separate converter, which is difficult to install and use. The set up of the software & cameras is very easy though. As a side note, I wished I could find a different converter that I could purchase, that converted .mp4 to .avi easily. I downloaded a few from download.com, but when it converts it, the image is upside down!

Did you try to access this from another computer? Perhaps one that doesn't have any DVR or NVR software on it? Starting clean might tell you if it is something with the one computer. (Especially bad codec load) Also, when you say "blank video" do you mean that you are seeing some of the software, or by "blank" do you men you get a blank webpage? If it is a blank webpage, you need to check if your remote computer can "ping" the IP address of your server computer. Are you sure they can talk?

I would vote for PC based, because the GUI is generally so much easier to use. Nothing beats a mouse and keyboard. And while it is true that the really cheap cards give you nasty quality, so do the cheap DVR's. I saw a DVR last year that only recorded in CIF (quarter screen) resolution! So while you may find a great deal on a DVR stand alone, you might want to see the quality first, and also check and see how easy the GUI is to use.