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I have had massive success with IndigoVision over wireless. Even the HD cameras work well. I can rattle of several sites where they are installed and several others where we retro fitted them in place of other products that used too much bandwidth.

What is you experience with multicasting in this product? Multicast is essential for larger video systems with many operators. I have found some products create a broadcast storm when you multicast

I have heard good reports on Avalan but not had first hand experience. My only comment on the Mobotix is to get the full resolution you need 4Mbps or more. Im not sure if it records a separate stream to the live. The IndigoVision I have used was set to stream live at 25ips CIF and record at 8ips 4CIF. It provided full PTZ control and only needed 512Mbps while the camera was not moving and 1.5Mbps while moving the PTZ.

I have installed several systems and learnt through my errors that it is a case of choosing the right IP wireless products. I know a few that do work and many that dont. There is a post here I contributed to but i can't find it to link to. my preferred product is WaveSight in a point to point configuration.

refer this post for my suggestion http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=18038&highlight=poe

Many products do not provide the web interface and stated frame rate when multiple people or devices are connected. This is because the cameras are built to a price and the processor is not powerful enough. In many cases, there is a server between the camera, the NVR and the viewing client that manages this. A better solution would be a proxy server to the web client so only 1 stream is being accessed directly from the camera. I have don this for several live event I sponsored like the Human Zoo and City to Bay Fun Run The human zoo was a 30 day project with live video and audio. The fun run is a once per year event over 3 hours, streamed live with down loadable recordings. The product I used for these was IndigoVision due to its significantly lower bandwidth. Contact me though the following site for more info http://nortronics.com.au

As per the wire guy, you will need a computer for IndigoVision to display the 720p You can full screen the camera(s) in their 16:9 format and no an alarm raise an external event to trigger an IR code to the TV via something like a Beyonwiz Needs a bit of custom code but not too hard[/url]

I saw one of these at the ASIAL last month. Considering how bright the hall was, the camera was producing a noise image as if there was not enough light. It was on Mobotix own stad and they had their tech guy there so I am sure it was setup correctly

I notice you represent 4 products. How do you determine which to use for each application? What front end software do you use? And last, what country are you in?

Personally not a fan of Netgear products. I have not had great reliability.

If you look at the analogue world of cameras, a good day night camera will cost $500 - $1000. The probability of getting an equivalent in an IP model for $1000 is not great. There are products out there but in my oppinion they don't come close to the good analogues. I am waiting for IndigoVisions new 11000 series HD that will be 25ips 720p resolution with true day night switching. Its ment to be out in November.

The Cisco SRW208P 8-port 10/100 Ethernet Switch - WebView/PoE is a nice lower cost unit. AUD $280. Very reliable and supports all the requirements of a IP-CCTV system

It's more about the implementation. there are many tools to use in the H.264 tool set. You don't need to use them all and can choose which ones you do or don't implement. As H.264 requires a lot of processing power, many vendors are only implementing the basics. This can mean different things occur. An H.264 can be transmitted as I-frames only, making it no better than M-JPEG. Great image though. It cn also be I and P-frames but if the ability to detect motion is not good, a blocky image occurs. There is unfortunately not a easy way of specifying compression that can be compared between brands.

No I havent but Im guessing its their H.264 version. I would be interested in an image comparison at the same bandwidth. Refer this link for an explanation of why I say this. http://forum.nortronics.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33

Except that Axis is bandwidth hungry and does not support a remote stream at CIF with a lower frame rate and 4CIF 25ips for on site recording at the same time. Check out the IndigoVision 9000 PTZ, which can do this.

Well Said

IndogoVision will have their 720p and 1080p HD cameras doing 25ips in November. These are true day night units. The bandwidth will be 1/2 that of most opposition as with all things Indigo

Obviously the lower the bandwidth the better. I can control some IndigoVision ones in US from Australia with 256Kbps @12ips 2CIF, while recording locally at 4CIF check out the IV 9000 PTZ at http://nortronics.com.au/IVActiveX/index.html Needs IE to work It has no control but shows the refresh rate. Download Control Center to get control as well

I know this is an old thread but I recently started using IndigoVision and can highly recommend it. Very low bandwidth for the image quality on the h.264 stuff I also found this support forum that has some useful tips http://forum.nortronics.com.au

There is a faq site for IndigoVision here http://forum.nortronics.com.au/

Still images like this should look crisp when taken that close. add some movement to see how the canera performs. hence the leaves in in a real scene are a good test. Who typically looks at the background? is the moving parts we are interested in.

I am looking for some feed back on the low light performance of this mega-pixel camera. The specs give a 0.3lux F1.4 colour rating, which sounds too good. There is no reference to the IRE level this is measured at so it could mean anything. Anyone tried it?

\ I agree it is better but not for the difference of 5MP v 1.3MP. Maybe 20-30% better. On a 5MP camera, you should be able to electronic zoom to 200% and have the same resolution as the 1.3MP (inverse square law). In this image resampled to 200% the leaves and the badge on the car should be sharp but are not. I would love to see a TVL chart test. I have tested the Indigo to 825TVL.

IndigoVision 10000 720p HD camera Slightly compressed to allow upload.

I am surprised at the lack or resolution for a 5MP. Look at the following images from the IndigoVision 720p HD camera. Compare both at 400% on the leaves and then 800% very similar considering we are comparing 1.3MP to 5MP Also note on the Arecont the image is not sharp in the outer edges of the image. only the centre.