Dynamic IP Capable

[AVCONSULTING 0]

Has anyone a list of embedded DVRs that can handle dynamic IP? In particular does Kalatel have that feature? Getting more requests for DVRs that can handle dynamic IP and they would like them to be embedded and not PC based like the Geovision, etc.

[FredB 0]

I think the dvr has to have a built in web server for it to work with a dynamic ip. Like the VPON, everfocus and speco dvr's. In that way you can use a service like www.no-ip.com to handle the dynamic dns part. Just use a compatible router to notify the dns everytime the ip changes.

 

I am also trying to figure out a way to do it with dvr's that don't have a built in web server. Does anyone know?

[AVCONSULTING 0]

How can you use no ip with an embedded system? In what way could you load the program into the DVR when the entire OS and DVR program are on a chip? Is there some other way to allow use of no ip maybe with a particular router?

[Thomas 0]

If the router handles the no-ip.com then that's all you need.

[heloder 0]

some routers support DDNS serivce. Linksys has one that does this

[AVCONSULTING 0]

So if a router is used that supports NO IP or another similar service then any DVR could be used with dynamic IP? This would open up even the really low cost DVRs like the Argus and Everfocus to be used with dynamic IP and would pretty much eradicate the need for the DVR company to make it's product dynamic compatible. Am I right in thinking this?

[Thomas 0]

Yep.

[cctv_down_under 0]

Yes

[heloder 0]

http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=565

 

Man!!!! I'm giving away secrets. lol

[rory 0]

Always better though to get a static IP.

 

If you dont mind speed issues, then use Thomas' advice on getting a router to do it for you.

[Thomas 0]

The only real problem with the no-ip type of services is there can be a delay between the changing of an IP address, the software reporting it, and the service updating thier redirect. I haven't played with the router support for those services and it's possible they can elminate the reporting lag. But there can be a window of lack of service.

[FredB 0]

My question is how can you use a dvr that doesn't have a built in webserver, since the remote software that comes with the dvr doesn't accept anything other then a IP address. If you use no-ip, you would just type in for example joeblow.no-ip.com and you would be re directed to the dvr ip address, which is fine if the dvr has a webserver. But if it doesn't? You can't exactly type in joeblow.no-ip.com in the dvr software. It won't work as far as I know. Does anyone have a workaround???

[heloder 0]

It all depends on the client software. Argus won't work. For our software, you just have to type in the host name instead of the IP address.

[ccolvard 0]

Most broadband providers will allow a public IP address setting in the modem. The router can forward an IP request from the public address to a specific port and local (LAN) static IP address.

 

This allows you to put a static local IP address into the DVR (using a specified port other than port 80 - web browser default) and the router will forward from the public address even through a browser interface.

 

Find the software that manages the broadband modem and change the setting to allow a public IP address. Then configure the router software to forward the request to something like 192.168.1.10:700 on the local network. Also, make sure that you find a setting in the router software to allow WAN access to the specific DVR address and port.

 

Be careful about giving all IP addresses full WAN access. Only give the public IP address & port pointing to the DVR WAN access.

 

Remove any firewall logins and let the DVR user management handle security. This will work will work with most DVR manufacturers.

 

Worst case is that you use a dynamic DNS host to map to the DVR.

 

Hope this gives you some ideas.

[Thomas 0]

It's going to depend on the software, however, with no-ip.com you can log into the account on thier website and look up your IP address.

[FredB 0]

Most broadband providers will allow a public IP address setting in the modem. The router can forward an IP request from the public address to a specific port and local (LAN) static IP address.

 

This allows you to put a static local IP address into the DVR (using a specified port other than port 80 - web browser default) and the router will forward from the public address even through a browser interface.

 

Find the software that manages the broadband modem and change the setting to allow a public IP address. Then configure the router software to forward the request to something like 192.168.1.10:700 on the local network. Also, make sure that you find a setting in the router software to allow WAN access to the specific DVR address and port.

 

Be careful about giving all IP addresses full WAN access. Only give the public IP address & port pointing to the DVR WAN access.

 

Remove any firewall logins and let the DVR user management handle security. This will work will work with most DVR manufacturers.

 

Worst case is that you use a dynamic DNS host to map to the DVR.

 

Hope this gives you some ideas.

 

How do you get in to the modem software to change the public IP? I don't really get how it would work. Will you pick one of the providers public ip addresses to put in the modem? Was surfing around for a while on the net but could not find any info abut it. Please explain more. Sounds really great soo...

[rory 0]

My cable ISP does not allow me to change it. If I have a static IP then It is set like that, then I can change it in the router.

 

The ISP assigns you that IP address automatically. Does he mean a static IP?? If so you can change the IP in your router or PC to the static IP and other info the ISP gives you.

 

I guess when he sais Public Ip does he mean a Dynamic IP or a Static IP??

 

Fred, you and I already know how to get the Embedded DVRs to work, lets not confuse ourselves ) They could be talking PC DVR lingo also.. I know I dont feel like learning anything new at this point .. im working on a 2000+ line code VB script right now ....

 

Rory

[ccolvard 0]

FredB:

 

No, I mean IP address accessable from the Internet to your PC.

 

Who is your broadband provider?

 

What is the name of your broadband modem?

 

It all depends what your provider will let you do, but in the US, SBC, Comcast and many others allow it.

[FredB 0]

FredB:

 

No, I mean IP address accessable from the Internet to your PC.

 

Who is your broadband provider?

 

What is the name of your broadband modem?

 

It all depends what your provider will let you do, but in the US, SBC, Comcast and many others allow it.

 

I have sbc yahoo at home, but i a not really talking about myself, but about my customers in general. I am trying to find out a way to set up the dvr's with remote viewing, but with dynamic IP's. As Rory said, I know really well how the whole dynamic IP thing works, with no-ip.com or dyndns.org etc.

 

The problem is with alot of these cheaper dvr's is that they don't have a built in webserver, but a remote viewer you have to load on the viewing computer. I am looking for a simple solution for all the donut shops who want to see the store remotely, without spending the extra dough on a static ip.

 

I quess one way to do it would be to have the router notify the dns every time the ip changes and the dns would send an email to the customer with the new ip. Then he would manually have to type in the new ip in the viewer. Talking about clumsy way. Not looking forward to the phone calls. I don't really want to deal with different ip providers polices. I am going to call dsl extreme and ask them. No point in guessing.

 

Keep the ideas coming

[ccolvard 0]

Hi FredB:

 

SBC will work, I have done it several time. Need to some specifics so I can help you.

 

What SBC modem is it? (speedstream, 2Wire, etc...)

 

Is there a router, if so what is it?

 

Let me know, you are almost there.

[AVCONSULTING 0]

I've been told that the Vitek DVR will work with SBC dynamic IP. I got this information from a guy at VSSI. You might want to verify it with him. His name is Arshak and his email is arshak@vsscctv.com. The DVRs are the new DVR4000 series. He is their network specialist.

[FredB 0]

Hi FredB:

 

SBC will work, I have done it several time. Need to some specifics so I can help you.

 

What SBC modem is it? (speedstream, 2Wire, etc...)

 

Is there a router, if so what is it?

 

Let me know, you are almost there.

 

speed stream with a dlink di-604 router

[ccolvard 0]

HI:

 

If he is using SBC with the 2wire setup, it doesn't matter. If he's using speedstream it needs a router.

 

Even the cheapest DVR's will work, Samsung, Speco, etc...

 

Put in a static local address, map from public address via port.

 

Been there, done many times.

[FredB 0]

HI:

 

If he is using SBC with the 2wire setup, it doesn't matter. If he's using speedstream it needs a router.

 

Even the cheapest DVR's will work, Samsung, Speco, etc...

 

Put in a static local address, map from public address via port.

 

Been there, done many times.

 

How do you get in to the modem? through the browser typing in the modem IP or...

[ccolvard 0]

Hi FredB:

 

Go to the Speedstream managment tools and locate the IP address of the modem? (Incuding subnet, gateway, DNS1 & DNS2)

 

Look for any information on making the IP address a public address. I'm not sure which speadstream (5100? Need to know!). There may not be anything about but if you see it, check public IP.

 

What DVR aare you using? How if the config set up? Can you specify ports, etc...

 

Your router must be set to allow Internet access through the IP address via port forwarding.

 

Keep it flowing and you'll be up and running.