eyeonutech 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Is there anything that can record 16 channels, Real Time at D1 resolution? PC Based or Stand alone? Thanks, Minh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameraGenius 0 Posted March 28, 2008 2 GV-2008 Cards will do this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 28, 2008 Most if it not all IP camera NVR software can do this. Axis Video insight Aimetis All can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 28, 2008 Hi! What bandwith are we talking about here and spec on PC? D1@25FPS(30FPS)@16 channels! JD Most if it not all IP camera NVR software can do this. Axis Video insight Aimetis All can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) I used the Axis Design Tool for the calulations. Remember I said the software/cameras can do it but I never said it would be cheap . Viewing: 30fps @ 704*480 (mjpeg) compression @ 10 bandwidth for 1 camera 11.9 Mbit/s bandwidth for 16 cameras 191.3 Mbit/s Recording: Same specs storage requirements (1 day) 1.9TB storage requirements (7 days) 13.7TB I would not setup a system like this because of the storage requirements. I think a better setup would be using motion detection. Because if I use the same setting and change the recording to 24hr @ 1FPS and ramp up to 30fps on motion (30% of the time) you will cut your storage requirements to 654.6 GB per day and 4.4TB per week. Specs for PC: I wouldn't go with anything less then a quad core Xeon setup with min 1GB of ram. This is for the Axis Camera Station so keep in mind all NVR software is different. Edited March 29, 2008 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 29, 2008 on a LAN location then! JD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 29, 2008 That is based on recordings using MJPEG compression. Results would be much better with a streaming codec like MPEG4 or h.264. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Hi! What bandwith are we talking about here and spec on PC? D1@25FPS(30FPS)@16 channels! JD 16 PCs with AMCAP and 1 channel each (no compression, 800MB per 30 second video ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Corrected Actually, there are many systems that can record 16 channels at D1 at 30fps. Ours can (Honeywell Enterprise, but that is overkill at $2,000/channel). Pretty much any Enterprise-level system can do it, but they are expensive as well: * Dallmeier * Geutebrück * Cisco/Sypixx * Bosch * Pelco Endura * AD Intellex * IndigoVision etc. Many standalones can do it: * Pelco DVR5100 Series * ICRealtime DVRPRO16 Some PC-based systems can do it: * GeoVision GV2008 IP Systems: Many open architecture software manufacturers, including DVTel, Genetec, Milestone Systems, 3VR, Bosch, etc. using encoders manufactured by: * Bosch * Verint * Vivotek * ACTi * Pelco or many high-quality IP cameras without the encoder. Do a web search for "16 channel DVR 480fps D1" Edited March 30, 2008 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Look at the recorded quality from these recorders at D1 @ 30fps and you will realize its just a myth .. they compress the living heck out of the video to get that feature .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Look at the recorded quality from these recorders at D1 @ 30fps and you will realize its just a myth .. they compress the living heck out of the video to get that feature .. You obviously haven't seen any of the enterprise DVR's. We are running hundreds of channels at D1 and getting very high quality video at 4Mb/s. That's at 32 channels per server, and we could do as many as 96. We have also evaluated other brands that are as good or better, including Dallmeier, Geutebrück, Cisco Sypixx and others; some using a much lower bitrate. Edited March 30, 2008 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Yep, seen them all D1, what exactly is it anyway .. 720x480 .. digitized. Nothing compared to the real thing coming from the camera. Its all a flam man, DVR manufacturers been suckering us and are still doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Yep, seen them all And you don't see the fallacy in your statement? I defy you to see any real faults in our pictures. They are nearly as good as live, with very little compression losses. D1, what exactly is it anyway .. 720x480 .. digitized. Nothing compared to the real thing coming from the camera. Its all a flam man, DVR manufacturers been suckering us and are still doing it. D1 is 720x480. A good analog camera is 768x494. Not very different. So what exactly do you recommend recording with that is better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Lets see the proof Next time you are going to be in SoCal, let me know; I'll show you our system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Perhaps .. one day .. when Im ready for another 12 hour flight .. BTW, the Geo GV-1480 only does CIF at 480fps. The GV2008 apparently can do D1 at 480ps. But so can many horrid linux DVRs. The problem is not with whether they can do it or claim they do it, its the actual quality it produces that is in question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 30, 2008 just post a recorded video clip, not so enviromental friendly if the hole forum is going to travel to SC to just look at some videoclips. JD Lets see the proof Next time you are going to be in SoCal, let me know; I'll show you our system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 just post a recorded video clip, not so enviromental friendly if the hole forum is going to travel to SC to just look at some videoclips. Sorry, that's not going to happen. It is a violation of our policies and procedures to release video clips or still pictures, except to law enforcement. I'm not going to get fired to prove a point . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eyeonutech 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Anyone know how the picture quality is on the Geovision GV-2008 at D1? How about Geovision GV-2008 vs ICRealtime DVRPRO16 at D1? Thanks again, Minh Corrected Actually, there are many systems that can record 16 channels at D1 at 30fps. Ours can (Honeywell Enterprise, but that is overkill at $2,000/channel). Pretty much any Enterprise-level system can do it, but they are expensive as well: * Dallmeier * Geutebrück * Cisco/Sypixx * Bosch * Pelco Endura * AD Intellex * IndigoVision etc. Many standalones can do it: * Pelco DVR5100 Series * ICRealtime DVRPRO16 Some PC-based systems can do it: * GeoVision GV2008 IP Systems: Many open architecture software manufacturers, including DVTel, Genetec, Milestone Systems, 3VR, Bosch, etc. using encoders manufactured by: * Bosch * Verint * Vivotek * ACTi * Pelco or many high-quality IP cameras without the encoder. Do a web search for "16 channel DVR 480fps D1" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 30, 2008 http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9891&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 This is only a screenshot of the DSP Ovelay, I lost a harddrive in the floor and I think maybe my test clips from GV-2008 was on that one. JD Anyone know how the picture quality is on the Geovision GV-2008 at D1? How about Geovision GV-2008 vs ICRealtime DVRPRO16 at D1? Thanks again, Minh Corrected Actually, there are many systems that can record 16 channels at D1 at 30fps. Ours can (Honeywell Enterprise, but that is overkill at $2,000/channel). Pretty much any Enterprise-level system can do it, but they are expensive as well: * Dallmeier * Geutebrück * Cisco/Sypixx * Bosch * Pelco Endura * AD Intellex * IndigoVision etc. Many standalones can do it: * Pelco DVR5100 Series * ICRealtime DVRPRO16 Some PC-based systems can do it: * GeoVision GV2008 IP Systems: Many open architecture software manufacturers, including DVTel, Genetec, Milestone Systems, 3VR, Bosch, etc. using encoders manufactured by: * Bosch * Verint * Vivotek * ACTi * Pelco or many high-quality IP cameras without the encoder. Do a web search for "16 channel DVR 480fps D1" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskarn 0 Posted September 20, 2009 Hi, I have a client who currently has 3x 16ch Tibet Magic Radar DVRs and one Geovision GV2008 8ch DVR. They want to upgrade this system to something that records full frames (30fps) at D1 res. They want 64 channels on a common platform. So far i've thought of putting in 3x Geovision DVRs each with 2xGV2008 cards and putting in another GV2008 card into the existing DVR. This is for a large supermarket, they dont have any PTZ but may get 3-4 ptz and want capacity for upto 6 ip/megapixel channels in the future. Is this a good option? What specs would you recommend on each of the dvrs having 2xgv2008. And lastly what is the difference in having something like a Geovision GV2008 DVR (which i think is pretty high-end) and one of those really expensive DVRs like Dallmier or Dedicated Micros. These seem to have lowers res/fps and higher prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alasl01 0 Posted September 21, 2009 This is one of the best I have ever used: 16 Channel Real Time @ D1 and can handle IP Cameras w/ 9Mega Pixel Resolution Built in analytics i.e missing objects, people & vehicle counting and perimeter settings. The Innotech EXDV16HYD www.innotechsecurity.com Best of all is the pricing: $2,800 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted September 21, 2009 This is one of the best I have ever used: 16 Channel Real Time @ D1 and can handle IP Cameras w/ 9Mega Pixel Resolution Built in analytics i.e missing objects, people & vehicle counting and perimeter settings. The Innotech EXDV16HYD www.innotechsecurity.com Best of all is the pricing: $2,800 Their Hybrid is NUUO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alasl01 0 Posted September 21, 2009 Nope, I thought so initially cause of the screen shot but its not. Totally different software, not sure from where. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskarn 0 Posted September 22, 2009 Hi, I cant find any information or reseller for this on google and it doesnt seem to be available in NZ. What about Geovision? Is there anything better than geovision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
