vse 0 Posted May 19, 2008 Have a large building where NVR is in basement, and 3 floors up is an attic, where I'll have 7 megapixel cams. Can I run 7 cables via conduit to the attic to a punchdown block. From that point I'll run individual cables to the cams in a star topology. If each camera run connects to the punchdown block, this should work better than running single camera runs all the way to the basement, right? Alternative suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wisp_engineer 0 Posted May 20, 2008 I would put the punch block at the NVR side. Put your cameras in, run the CAT cable through conduit down to the punch block. Punch them in, and then run patch cords to the switch. Patch your NVR into the switch and you are set. This would be the best way of doing it. You always want the network switch or "head end" in this case, connected via patch cord to punch block. This ensures if you have to make a cabling change in the machine room you just move patch cords around or buy longer or shorter ones. The cameras will be static in that they will probably never be moved around. EDIT: I just re-read your post. I'll leave the above info there, but expand a bit. I take it you want to run just one cable down to the NVR from the attic. If that is the case you will need to answer the following questions: Is there commercial power in the attic? Is this attic climate controlled (HVAC regulated environment)? I suspect you are thinking you want to add a device to split one connection into multiple connections. Is this correct? If so you need an active device such as a network switch located up in the attic area to "split" the single network connection you will bring up from the NVR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted May 20, 2008 If I was going to run it that way I would use fiber for the trunk because your using megapixel cameras. Why do you want to do it this way? Are you having distance problems? If not I would run everything home. In the long run homeruns just make everything easier. If you can get one wire there you can get seven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vse 0 Posted May 20, 2008 Thank you for your replies... after I posted, I realized I was using a midspan so it would require 7 separate cable runs to the individual cams. I had been hoping that I could cut to length 7 cables that would run from the switch in the basement to a punchdown block located at my entrance to the attic. From there, I would cut and run the varying lengths of cable to the cams. Seems it would be neater, and easier. As an inexperienced installer, I didn't think I would have a continuity or reliability issue by using a punchdown block. It would appear that I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted May 20, 2008 Thank you for your replies... after I posted, I realized I was using a midspan so it would require 7 separate cable runs to the individual cams. I had been hoping that I could cut to length 7 cables that would run from the switch in the basement to a punchdown block located at my entrance to the attic. From there, I would cut and run the varying lengths of cable to the cams. Seems it would be neater, and easier. As an inexperienced installer, I didn't think I would have a continuity or reliability issue by using a punchdown block. It would appear that I do. Easiest way to run wire is pull the whole run in one shot and in your case use 7 boxes of wire. Think about ho much extra labor will be involved in the punchdown or patch panel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vse 0 Posted May 20, 2008 Good point about the labor aspect... while we're at it... could you possibly advise me as to what my basic tool set should be for both Cat5 and RG59 installs. Snaking tools, crimpers, etc. That would be great, if you have the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davey_fl 0 Posted May 20, 2008 Good point about the labor aspect... while we're at it... could you possibly advise me as to what my basic tool set should be for both Cat5 and RG59 installs. Snaking tools, crimpers, etc. That would be great, if you have the time. I would think this would depend on that phase of construction the building is in. If it's finished you've got a heck of a time in front of you. If not, cat5e runs I like to use right angle drills, fish tape, 110 punchdown tool, crimper with sharp blades and good RJ-45 ends, flexibits, LV boxes, conduit. For RG59 I'd stick with SNS connectors (or BNC), a couple of long fish tapes (150ft), a good labeler for you cable management. That's what comes to mind for me anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CollinR 0 Posted May 20, 2008 I'm with thewireguys, if you want bad@ss run fiber to the top floor and put a switch to brand out your 7 cams. Otherwise just homerun the suckers if you are under 330'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeromephone 6 Posted May 22, 2008 keep a length of 1/2 pvc condit to use to push pull wires. Cheap flexible and when you leave it in a ceiling some olace you are only out a couple of bucks. Plus being plastic you don,t have to worry about shorting out something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted May 22, 2008 This is my weapon of choice for fishing wire. I like all of their products. I have used the Wallscope on a couple of jobs and used it to fish some stuff that would not be possible without it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites