Setup suggestions for new GV800 user

[paranoid 0]

Hi all and happy new year,

 

I now have my gv800 card for recording my 4 day / night cams and am looking for some setup help.

 

The system (xp pro sp2) is a p4 3.0ghz with 1gb ddr ram and 3 hard drives, the hard drives are as follows :

 

C: 200 GB WD CAVIAR IDE System drive (primary master)

D: 200 GB WD CAVIAR IDE Storage drive (primary slave)

E: 80 GB MAXTOR SATA Backup drive (3rd master)

F: DVD ROM (2nd master)

G: CD ROM (2nd slave)

 

The pc is currently used for audio / video editing and a lot of video is captured on either C: or D: drives, am I asking too much from this pc if I add the gv800 to record 4 cams at full resolution 24/7 ?

 

I cannot let the cctv compromise the video editing and am wondering if I should go for a barebones p4 system dedicated to the gv800 ?

 

Any comments appreciated,

 

Mick

[rory 0]

dedicated definately.

[paranoid 0]

Thats what I thought,

 

Does anyone have a recommendation for a barebones system, preferably small cube type and capable of recording 4 cams at 25 fps / 640x480 each ?

 

Am I looking at a p4 3.0 ghz, 512 ram, 200 gb drive etc etc like this one http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=17138

 

Looks like im gonna have to spend another few hundred

 

Mick

[qman 0]

That's a MiniATX, no good. You should get a regular PC.

[Thomas 0]

Mini-ATX isn't bad per se, but I wouldn't want to run one full out 16 cams, max frame rate....but for four cameras it should work, the major problem will be finding one that Geovision works with.

 

I've got a lovely Shuttle clone box here that we use for demo's (both in and out of the office) and we run 4 cameras on it just fine.

[CCTVINSTALLER 0]

You might need to take a look at this topic to get more infor about shuttle pcs and geovision.

http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=555

 

I had the same query, right now, i only have 2 geo systems running on shuttle pcs, ones a gv800-8 way, which ive had no probs with and another gv650-8 which i only installed recently so im waiting for something to happen! However we only used these due to space limitations, the guy had all his cables into a small little cupbord, if i could i would avoid it!

[paranoid 0]

Thanks for the replies chaps,

 

Im considering buying new components and donating my current desktop / workstation to the gv800. The specs are :

 

MSI 875 P NEO MOBO

1 GB DDR PC 3200 (VDATA ?)

INTEL ICH5 AND CANTERWOOD

P4 3.0 GHZ 533

OCZ PSU 520 WATT

ATI AIW 9800 PRO - PROBABLY MOVING IT TO NEW PC

WD CAVIAR 200 GB SYSTEM DRIVE

WD CAVIAR 200 GB STORAGE DRIVE

MAXTOR 80 GB SATA BACKUP DRIVE

ANTEC CASE

ANTEC CHASSIS FAN

 

Are any of the above components recommended ?

 

Cheers

 

Mick

 

p.s. I have tested the gv800 in the above system, albeit briefly, and it seemed ok.

[dusan 0]

hi

go asus p4c800-e delux

samsung 4pc 512mb pc3200 ddr ram tccc speed in usa ~$68

do not buy hot (10-20c more heat) prescot cpu

look for 3.2ghz 512k 800mhz retail and oc to 3.4ghz or more

low cost data storage on sata hard drives hitachi 250gb now in usa for ~ $135 or new 500gb , and kingwin hard drive sata caddy

and separate boot os hard drive,i use 10k300 36-74gb scsi as boot for max speed of os and swap and temp ~85mb transfer speed

and coolermaster cm stacker STC-T01 case for max expandability

http://www.coolermaster.com/

pioneer dvd dvr-108 recorder

 

dusan

[rory 0]

its a pity they couldnt fit in 1 PCI slot in this little thing

 

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1170076&Sku=W451-3026

 

and what do yall think of this mobo?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1183019&CatId=177

 

also check these out:

http://www.cappuccinopc.com/slimpro-sp620h.asp

http://www.cappuccinopc.com/cubepc-spresso.asp

[paranoid 0]

Hi guys,

 

Im about to order the parts for my barebones pc, to run a gv800 4 cam full res system, im looking at the following :

 

Asus p4c800 e delux - £96.19

1 x kingston 512m ddr pc3200 400mhz - £44.03

1 x Pentium 4 (northwood) 2.8 ghz 533fsb 512 cache - £85.09

1 x maxtor sata sys drive 80 gb (donated from this pc)

Storage drive unknown at present.

380 watt antec psu and an old atx case from my junk box

 

Graphics card ? Bearing in mind that this new pc will only be used for the gv and nothing else, do I really need a top notch card ?

 

Obviuosly I would like to keep cost as low as possible, any thoughts from you guys welcome.

[CCTVINSTALLER 0]

Again, i suggest reading some more of the threads in this topic, try this:

 

http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=6518&highlight=#6518

 

we've picked up tonnes of tips for geo systems from some of the guys on this forum. so far, i would say you have a perfect motherboard and processor for the job. We're using the same memory, but for a gv650 build, for gv800, try the professional kingston range or corsair twinx was recommended by dvr_expert and has excellent performance. use 2X256DDR rather than 1 512 stick, you'll get better performance. I've never seen the need for high end graphic cards, go with a good brand i.e. saphire ati series, also make sure it supports direct draw overlay so you can use fullscreen mode. we've even used the cheaper sapphire ATI Radeon 9200SE 128MB for some of our older gv800 systems with good results. is it for home use or are you providing installation for a customer?

[paranoid 0]

Hi and thanks for the reply,

 

I have just looked at that thread again, intersting you mention the msi mobo I have an 875pneo and its pretty good. However that mobo is in thios pc and its going nowhere, im choosing the asus because its recommended by this forum.

 

Im buying the kit from ebuyer and I think they do the corsair stuff and yes I have just remembered the previous comments about using 2 x 256 mb instead.

 

Im very familiar with ati cards and its the make I would prefer.

 

The system is a 4 cam day/night job for my parents and im hoping to record at 640x480 on a 24 hour cycle, would a 200gb sata storage drive be ample for that ?

 

Cheers

[paranoid 0]

Hi all,

 

Ive installed my 4 day/night ir cams and im well impressed. I have ordered components for the system as follows :

 

1 x asus p4c 800 edelux

Intel p4 2.8 northwood 533 fsb

antec truepower 380 psu

2 x OCZ 256 DDR400 pc3200 (lifetime gurantee)

Maxtor 80 gig sata system drive

Maxtor 300 gig sata storage drive

multireader floppy drive

Nvidia geforce mx440 agp8x 64 mb tv out

xp pro sp2 oem

 

I have just reinstalled my existing video editing system and I have the option of using 'dynamic' on my storage / ghost backup drives. I doubt I will mess about with striped volumes etc etc so is there any point in converting to dynamic ? This question applies to both the video editing machine and the dedicated gv800 machine.

 

The video editing machine has the following drives :

 

Maxtor 80 gig sata system

Maxtor 80 gig sata ghost / backup

Maxtor 300 gig sata video capture / storage (using promise drivers)

 

Cannot believe how much money I have spent The cctv system is totalling around £1500 so far !

 

Any comments welcome

[rory 0]

yep, i got a client getting ready to spend $70,000 on CCTV for his home!

you got off relatively cheap .. LOL

[paranoid 0]

Any ideas on the dynamic vs basic disk argument ?

Unless it speeds up disk access times overall, I cannot see the point.

 

$70,000

[Thomas 0]

Eh, I've seen arguements and benchmarks that point either way. Honestly, I've found them to be a bit flaky.

[paranoid 0]

Im going to stick with basic drives, I seem to remember some problems in the past with one.

 

All I have to do now is build the system when it arrives and sort out a weird infra red problem, im going to post the problem in the camera forum.