Neutech 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Who has used them? Just how good are they? Time for us to step up to IP as some clients are asking for it now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillD 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Mobotix cameras provide excellent quality video. Their outdoor models are particularly interesting because no environmental housing is required and since they are POE ready you can run a single cable. POE is normally not possible when using housings with heaters and fans (although there are now environmenal POE housings coming to market). So outdoor installation is easy. There are models with dual image sensors which can be stitched together into a 180 degree field of view. So you can get a lot of coverage with a singe camera. On the negative side, the cameras use either MJPEF or Mobotix own MXPEG, both of which are very data intensive compared to MPEG-4. As these are megapixel cameras they will generate a huge amount of data, i.e., bandwidth and data storage usage. We see these as very application specific cameras rather than main stream. They are expensive on a unit cost basis but provide compelling economics for many applications. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
griffonsystems 0 Posted October 24, 2008 we just installed 11 mobotix cameras here in chicago, the client was very impressed with the picture quality.. also no licensing fee for their software and no need for outdoor housings - install was easy becuse all of their models are poe so we just setup a 24port adtran poe switch and a 4terabite nas to record - we are getting about 4 weeks storage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neutech 0 Posted October 25, 2008 Excellent Information Guys and very appreciated GS you have PM any more people ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Dont forget they do 3fps only at max resolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
griffonsystems 0 Posted October 28, 2008 we have most of them set at 800x600 for 12fps pal which is pretty good, it does lower with the amount of activity... if you want to go full 3mp you will get a lower frame rate but thats with most -- h.264 is helping cameras compress video but mobotix hasnt gone there yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert 0 Posted October 28, 2008 we have most of them set at 800x600 for 12fps pal which is pretty good, it does lower with the amount of activity... if you want to go full 3mp you will get a lower frame rate but thats with most -- h.264 is helping cameras compress video but mobotix hasnt gone there yet I would choose Arecont xx05 H264 series. They do high frame rates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhonovich 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Hi Guys, I recently released an article on Mobotix that reviews the offering and discusses strengths and weaknesses: http://ipvideomarket.info/report/mobotix_megapixel_video_surveillance_products I tend to think if you are going to use all Mobotix (cameras and management software), it makes a lot of sense. However, if you are going to use third party management software, it's a lot closer between Mobotix, IQinvision, Arecont, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted December 17, 2008 we have most of them set at 800x600 for 12fps pal which is pretty good, it does lower with the amount of activity... if you want to go full 3mp you will get a lower frame rate but thats with most -- h.264 is helping cameras compress video but mobotix hasnt gone there yet I don't get it u have 3mp camera which u set at 800x600 right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhonovich 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Mobotix only offers 3MP camera. You cannot buy a 1.3 or 2MP camera. You can owly buy the 3MP and then set the resolution lower. It's obviously inefficient if you do not need the full 3MP. You could save by buying a 1.3MP from IQinVision, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Mobotix only offers 3MP camera. You cannot buy a 1.3 or 2MP camera. You can owly buy the 3MP and then set the resolution lower. It's obviously inefficient if you do not need the full 3MP. You could save by buying a 1.3MP from IQinVision, etc. That was my point too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monitor Your Assets 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Mobotix only offers 3MP camera. You cannot buy a 1.3 or 2MP camera. You can owly buy the 3MP and then set the resolution lower. It's obviously inefficient if you do not need the full 3MP. You could save by buying a 1.3MP from IQinVision, etc. Mobotix does offer at least 3 flavors for most models. For example, the D22 dome camera is available in 4 flavors: D22MI-Basic - VGA (640x480) (no internal DVR on this) D22M-IT - VGA (640x480) D22M-Sec - 3mp (2048x1536) D22M-Sec-Night - 1mp (1280x960) It is true that 3MP is only available in 10fps. If you want 30fps, a lower resolution is required, but this is *independent* of capturing 3MP at 10fps. So, you could store 3MP@10fps on the internal dvr and watch 800x600@30fps via their free software and watch 800x600@10fps via your favorite web browser - all at the same time, with audio. -- Marc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
griffonsystems 0 Posted December 18, 2008 IQinvision around $900 for their 1.3MP camera without lens and Mobotix 3mp for $998 retail with lens - i'll take the mobotix and the free management software.. i'll also bet that a 3mp camera scaling down to 1mp has a better image than a 1mp camera -- i havnt tested but i also like the ability to jump to 3mp when needed... they will also take snapshots at 3mp - or whatever res you want on event or time while also recording at a lower resolution why buy a Ferrari if your not going to drive 225mph all the time? same argument uve thrown out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert 0 Posted December 18, 2008 IQinvision around $900 for their 1.3MP camera without lens and Mobotix 3mp for $998 retail with lens - i'll take the mobotix and the free management software.. i'll also bet that a 3mp camera scaling down to 1mp has a better image than a 1mp camera -- i havnt tested but i also like the ability to jump to 3mp when needed... they will also take snapshots at 3mp - or whatever res you want on event or time while also recording at a lower resolution Dont forget what FPS Mobotix does at 3mpix. Is 4fps enough for cctv? I dont think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amirm 0 Posted December 18, 2008 Dont forget what FPS Mobotix does at 3mpix. Is 4fps enough for cctv? I dont think so. That's using M-JPEG. Using their proprietary MxPEG they get 10 fps. Before you say it, wish they used an open standard instead . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deane 0 Posted December 26, 2008 i think Mobotix cameras run very well with NUUO solution. even with the NAS linux embedded NVR standalone, this kind of package is especially for small and medium size business, home users, chain stores, laundry shops, ATM, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites