normicgander 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Questions: Are standards always a good thing or does it limit competitve technical innovation? I’m not necessarily referring to “standard†Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted December 1, 2008 I think the customer sets the standards at a starting point. Wall Mart exist for a reason, yet at the same time there is a group of people who shop at high end electronic stores for products that are unavailable at Wall Mart, but then again there are those that are classified as high end customers due to their high income level yet they buy large screen LCD at Wall Mart. I bet that answered your question! No? Good! I am confused too! Standards count. Why are the big three automotive manufactures suffering excluding the economy? The overseas manufactures do not seem to be having half as much of a problem as the U.S. Then again does not Toyota, Nissan, and other foreign manufactures have plants here in the USA? Marketing sells standards. "Why buy a car that compares to a Camary when you can buy a Camary"? Product price range sets the standard or the lack of it as you try to stay cheap. You cannot use a $10.00 toaster to operate a bagel shop, but then again who is going to spend $800.00 for a high speed stainless steel toaster for their home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normicgander 0 Posted December 1, 2008 I'm thinking more in the line of developing a widget, such as a ditigal CCTV camera as example, which could be better than say an RS-170A (NTSC compatible) camera. We have been using the same type of analog camera for decades now. There have been many enhancements of course (DSP,WDR etc.). Not trying to get too specific here with examples. The end-users do drive the product requirements, but a company can always develop/produce a better widget to give the customer improved capability etc, especially if it more cost-effective. This is the heart of free-market competition. As for the auto industry, wow, their problems are more cultural. Change for them is like trying to turn the Queen Mary (which is perhaps easier ). Many big corporations are like the government -very hard to change at root level in my experience. Time to close up shop and go home. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erron S. 0 Posted December 1, 2008 I think it could go both ways, especially for camera manufactures. Most of the 'off shore' manufactures now will not only design and build to specific standards, but then also build equipment that exceeds those standards. Why? Options, options, options. I like to think about it like this.. The first time you saw a Ferrari, you wanted it, right? (pick whatever model you like) The day before, you had no idea it even existed. I think that's true for all product, including the megapixel and 'sense up' cameras. End users that have a dealer come in and bid on a system may or may not see the difference between what they are offered and what they could buy online or in Sam's Club or Costco. Now, show them the megapixel cameras. It's easy to see why they would choose one of the other. I like the Camry example. Why buy something that compares to a Camry when you could just get a Camry? Because it costs less, right? Maybe the support behind the product is less? What if you could get the Ferrari for slightly more? Oh yeah, now we're talking. I suppose my point of this post is people don't know what they want until they see it. Then they have to have it. Which is why I believe that manufactures produce product that has features that maybe someone else doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted December 2, 2008 I'm thinking more in the line of developing a widget, such as a ditigal CCTV camera as example, which could be better than say an RS-170A (NTSC compatible) camera. We have been using the same type of analog camera for decades now. There have been many enhancements of course (DSP,WDR etc.). Will you be setting new parameters or will your design fit in with IEEE, FCC specs, CE specs ect. ect. ect. Wi Fi x that is being deployed in the near future that is being "marketed" today, and then you see the companies selling a product that uses Wi Fi x even though it has not been "ratified" by the Wi Fi alliance or ieee or fcc or whomever, and yet you see today's technology was developed 10 years ago, or so. I find it interesting that technology that is cutting edge has been around for 10 years on some engineers desk until it landed on the marketing and advertising desk, and then on to our store's shelves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites