securitysupplies 0 Posted May 29, 2009 Hello, As there are so many cameras claimed vandalproof, actually is there a standard identifying this? Does it mean even a gun unable to break the transparent glass cover? Do you know any * genuine * vandalproof outdoor ptz camera in the market? can you share with me how it is? Rgds, Dove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Broscious 0 Posted May 31, 2009 When a camera is said to be vandal proof it's usually just an indication that the camera can hold up against basic tampering fairly well. I've yet to see a camera that I haven't been able to open without a screw driver and some ingenuity. If someone wants to mess with your cameras, if they've got the will to do it it can be done. Short of building your own encasement around the camera so no one can actually gain physical access to the camera, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed in your search for the camera you're looking for unless you're willing to pay. I have seen some very nice military grade surveillance cameras (read into that military grade encasements) that can with stand small explosions and continue to operate...but again with a screw driver and some time even these can be tampered with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted May 31, 2009 Agreed, "vandal PROOF" is pretty subjective. It really depends on what sort of vandals you're dealing with - I've seen Lexan domes withstand direct (very solid) blows with hammers and baseball bats... but I've had instances where the shock has killed the camera inside, or scuffed the Lexan enough to seriously blur the image. I've yet to see a dome that will repel paint, so a vandal with a spray can of Tremclad is always a problem. I've put metal shields over cameras and those will significantly slow a perp down, but someone who really wants to put the time in to attack/remove/disable a camera will always find a way to do it. I watched the footage of a thief once that dismantled and removed a dome that used security screws (the allan key with the pin in the middle) - he used what looked like a pair of needle-nose pliers and it took him a good 20 minutes of solid effort to get the dome apart, but he did finish the job and took the dome with him... and this was at a gas station on a fairly busy route. Surprised nobody saw him and call the cops or anything. Unfortunately, it was at night and what light there was, was behind him, so we never got a face from it... Frankly, the best way to "vandal proof" a camera is to put it far out of reach... we have one site with three FLIR thermal cams and a Pelco Esprit PTZ on top of a 50' tower in the middle of a yard, with a 12' climb shield around the tower base... that makes the cameras pretty much impervious to anything but a bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitysupplies 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Your sharings are inspiring. I also took a search from several major brands and surprisingly found only this one look convincing being vandalproof. It's ExSite Series Explosionproof Positioning System from Pelco. I even cannot search out any claimed vandalproof products from some providers... Therefore, I expect this 'feature' probably not good to achieve. Here's a link for your intereest. Rgds, Dove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted June 1, 2009 Your link didn't work, you haven't been here long enough. You could also take a look at some of Extreme's offerings, http://www.extremecctv.com ... er, hmm, well, I guess Bosch owns them now. Dunno if they still have them, but they used to have some really great camera designs - super-heavy-duty tapered-steel housings that prevented simply tossing a rope over a wall-mounted camera and yanking it down, and a shatterproof Lexan dome held in buy a ring that threaded into the housing on top of it, and then was locked down by ultra-small setscrews requiring ultra-small, hard-to-find allen keys to get them out... suffice to say they were a chore to open even IF you had the right tools, and damn near impossible if you didn't Ah, here it is: http://products.boschsecurity.us/en/TAMS/products/bxp/SKUPFT5677115915.P1.F.01U.089.911-CATMf53af729338a4b8b433361f4a392c56f Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
