Distance issue

[ashtech 0]

Has anyone run a camera over 1.6km?

I have to run a few in a factory. Please provide me with some help on what cable to use and what other equipment i may need to boost the signal if neccessary.

 

Oh and the cable will be exposed to heat, sun and rain

[survtech 0]

You'll probably have to use fibre. Here are a few links:

 

http://www.fibre-options.com/cctv/index.html

 

http://www.amgsystems.co.uk/

 

http://www.optelecom-nkf.com/

 

http://www.versitron.com/cctv_systems.html

 

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[hardwired 0]

Fiber is probably the first option for best quality for analog cameras, with amplified baluns on twisted pair being well behind in quality (much cheaper, though). If you can consider IP cameras, though, a few other options open up, such as DSL-type extenders over twisted pair cabling (take a look at www.netsys-direct.com for an example), or wireless options, or the possibility that your factory already has network connectivity there.

[survtech 0]

...amplified baluns on twisted pair being well behind in quality (much cheaper, though).

1.6km?

[rory 0]

...amplified baluns on twisted pair being well behind in quality (much cheaper, though).

1.6km?

 

Yep, NVT claims 1 mile (1.6km) with Active-Active.

 

I have a demo here from Poland that claims 6-8,000 feet .. untested ofcourse

[3RDIGLBL 0]

Got line of site? Go wireless. Some good stuff out there.

[rory 0]

Got line of site? Go wireless. Some good stuff out there.

Wireless? Just something else to cause cancer (and plenty $$$) ...

[3RDIGLBL 0]

Got line of site? Go wireless. Some good stuff out there.

Wireless? Just something else to cause cancer (and plenty $$$) ...

 

You could get good wireless by tranzeo and do it for less than it would cost to run cable or fiber 1 mile.

 

Cancer, LOL! Being bombarded by so many radio waves in every direction I don't think one more signal would matter LOL!

Edited October 23, 2009 by Guest

[rory 0]

True. If its line of sight though, any trucks, planes etc cross its path its gone

[hardwired 0]

...amplified baluns on twisted pair being well behind in quality (much cheaper, though).

1.6km?

 

Yep, NVT claims 1 mile (1.6km) with Active-Active.

 

I have a demo here from Poland that claims 6-8,000 feet .. untested ofcourse

 

Nitek EX1120 claims up to 3.6Km... never tried them, although I use a lot of other Nitek stuff, and been happy with it. Still, I'd look at a DSL type system with IP cameras (or a encoder-decoder pair, if you have to have analog) , I've done quite a few of those, and been very happy with the result.

 

You get to use cheap, or sometimes already in-house cable, and get perfect image quality at the other end, with no losses.. Best of both worlds of fiber and twisted pair, in my opinion.

 

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I also do think there are a lot of good wireless options out there...Just stay away from the analog wireless stuff.

[thewireguys 3]

second the wireless setup if LOS...... check out Ubiquiti

 

http://www.ubnt.com/

 

Very affordable and reliable stuff.

[rory 0]

Nitek EX1120 claims up to 3.6Km... never tried them, although I use a lot of other Nitek stuff, and been happy with it. Still, I'd look at a DSL type system with IP cameras (or a encoder-decoder pair, if you have to have analog) , I've done quite a few of those, and been very happy with the result.

 

You get to use cheap, or sometimes already in-house cable, and get perfect image quality at the other end, with no losses.. Best of both worlds of fiber and twisted pair, in my opinion.

 

DSL is horrid down here, 128KB max upload speed, cable is the way to go. See, everywhere is different, what might work there might not work here, and vice versa.

 

*edit*

I also do think there are a lot of good wireless options out there...Just stay away from the analog wireless stuff.

 

I would say if they are hell bent on wireless then stay clear of network wireless and go CCTV wireless, works well when using the right product and installed correctly. But mostly as they are not asking about an NVR system. CCTV wireless is real time video, I dont like either but Ive used CCTV wireless by VideoComm and it worked great.

[hardwired 0]

Nitek EX1120 claims up to 3.6Km... never tried them, although I use a lot of other Nitek stuff, and been happy with it. Still, I'd look at a DSL type system with IP cameras (or a encoder-decoder pair, if you have to have analog) , I've done quite a few of those, and been very happy with the result.

 

You get to use cheap, or sometimes already in-house cable, and get perfect image quality at the other end, with no losses.. Best of both worlds of fiber and twisted pair, in my opinion.

 

DSL is horrid down here, 128KB max upload speed, cable is the way to go. See, everywhere is different, what might work there might not work here, and vice versa.

 

*edit*

I also do think there are a lot of good wireless options out there...Just stay away from the analog wireless stuff.

 

I would say if they are hell bent on wireless then stay clear of network wireless and go CCTV wireless, works well when using the right product and installed correctly. But mostly as they are not asking about an NVR system. CCTV wireless is real time video, I dont like either but Ive used CCTV wireless by VideoComm and it worked great.

 

On the DSL stuff, I was referring to a point to point DSL link, using the customer's wire, not going through a service provider. If you look at the manufacturer I mentioned earlier, they can provide equipment that will create up to a 100Megabit, full duplex link, several thousand meters+.

 

As far as the wireless equipment, I gotta disagree with you there, I have a lot of successful installations in place using IP wireless stuff, including ones that needed analog video passed through (used encoder/decoder pairs), and ones that needed a lot of cameras in the same area that would have caused a channel availability problem with analog wireless links.

 

Also, wireless IP gives the customer options to add computers, viewing stations, etc. through the same link, kind of a value-added thing.

 

The OP never mentioned what type of video he needed, so it's speculation at this point what may work best for him.

[rory 0]

The OP never mentioned what type of video he needed, so it's speculation at this point what may work best for him.

 

This would (should) be posted in the IP Camera section if he was interested in an NVR, where it would be moved to if it goes that direction. We like to keep the other forums to strictly CCTV where possible.

[rory 0]

 

On the DSL stuff, I was referring to a point to point DSL link, using the customer's wire, not going through a service provider. If you look at the manufacturer I mentioned earlier, they can provide equipment that will create up to a 100Megabit, full duplex link, several thousand meters+.

 

ok my bad

 

As far as the wireless equipment, I gotta disagree with you there, I have a lot of successful installations in place using IP wireless stuff, including ones that needed analog video passed through (used encoder/decoder pairs), and ones that needed a lot of cameras in the same area that would have caused a channel availability problem with analog wireless links.

I have no problem with that, I agree when you go over a certain amount of cameras then thats as far as that technology can take you. But it does have its benefits, no network bandwidth issues which can be very useful in some applications. Otherwise yes I have quoted wireless network gear myself for video apps (nobody down here ever had the $$ to pay for it thats all!! )

[thewireguys 3]

blem with that, I agree when you go over a certain amount of cameras then thats as far as that technology can take you. But it does have its benefits, no network bandwidth issues which can be very useful in some applications. Otherwise yes I have quoted wireless network gear myself for video apps (nobody down here ever had the $$ to pay for it thats all!! )

 

Rory the Ubiquiti outdoor access points go for under $100 retail.

 

"150+ Mbps real outdoor throughput and up to 15km+ range. Featuring 2x2 MIMO technology, the new NanoStation links significantly faster and farther than ever before."