SkyDiverDown 0 Posted January 8, 2010 I need a bit of help. Here's what I have 3 SD-2000-InDoor cameras. They all have Uniboards installed (Sensornet/RS422) Ofcourse the wires have been cut and this is my first time setting up PTZ cameras. I searched for a manual or just 'random' documentation for these and found pretty much nothing. On the AD site, they don't even list the 2000 model anymore (which I understand because of the 'new' models) .. I was lucky enough to find ONE PDF about the uniboards.. BUT.. the manual only shows the board having TWO(2) address selectors. Mine has three.. (the manual is probably for a very early model anyway). It did give me the layout of the power/ground/Rx & Tx lines. The cameras power-up fine as far as I can tell and get GREAT images (zooming/focus/pan/tilt works in pretest).. Now..... hope your sitting down .. I read on another post about using pins 3(tx) and 5(gnd) to directly connect to a Rs232 port(serial) to be able to 'test' the control of the cameras. I can't seem to get this to work. The jumpers on the board are set to RS422 (should this be sensonet?) for the (serial) connection? I d/l'd the PTZ controller demo. Nice looking application. BUT, first is the camera address selection. (two selectors -vs- three selectors) I 'believe' I have mine set to 100. I even tried 111.. *shruggs* I did get the Rx/Tx light to blink, BUT, the camera doesn't react to any input. there are three lights on the board(top right corner). first I believe is a RX/TX indicator, it blinks during pretest. the second is green(not sure, maybe power).. and the third is Red(??).. again, because I do not have a manual I can't be sure that the RED light should be RED or what it means.. any help would be appreciated. ----- I plan on writing a VB application with video input to control the camera and scan an area. Checking for movement, changes, etc. If I can't get these to work with the Uniboard, I do have the option, of gutting them(grin) and building my own controller board. I've done controller boards before for other projects. I would just rather use the existing board. Thanks again for any help. SkyDiverDown "Falling past you at the speed of *Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!*" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 9, 2010 I searched for a manual or just 'random' documentation for these and found pretty much nothing. On the AD site, they don't even list the 2000 model anymore (which I understand because of the 'new' models) .. I was lucky enough to find ONE PDF about the uniboards.. BUT.. the manual only shows the board having TWO(2) address selectors. Mine has three.. (the manual is probably for a very early model anyway). It did give me the layout of the power/ground/Rx & Tx lines. The cameras power-up fine as far as I can tell and get GREAT images (zooming/focus/pan/tilt works in pretest).. Now..... hope your sitting down .. I read on another post about using pins 3(tx) and 5(gnd) to directly connect to a Rs232 port(serial) to be able to 'test' the control of the cameras. I can't seem to get this to work. The jumpers on the board are set to RS422 (should this be sensonet?) for the (serial) connection? Just to be clear: pins 3 and 5 are the pins you use on the DB9 serial port on the computer. RS-422 *should* be the right setting for the camera - pin 3 on the serial port would go to RX+ (some mark it "RX(A)"), and pin 5 to RX-/RX(B). I d/l'd the PTZ controller demo. Nice looking application. BUT, first is the camera address selection. (two selectors -vs- three selectors) I 'believe' I have mine set to 100. I even tried 111.. *shruggs* I did get the Rx/Tx light to blink, BUT, the camera doesn't react to any input. What "Rx/Tx" light is this? Most PTZs, when you power them up, will briefly display info like baud rate, ID number, etc. on-screen. Remember that baud rate and comm parameters (data-parity-stop bit, such as 8N1, 7E1, etc.) must be correct as well, or the camera will receive data, but not be able to read it. Now here's a trick I've found with some cameras connecting to a PC serial port: sometimes you have to power up everything with the wires connected the "right" way (pin 3 on the port to RX+ on the camera), pin 5 to RX-), then swap them without restarting or rebooting. It's odd and it SHOULDN'T work, but sometimes (often?) it does, and is the only way to get it working without using a full-on active converter/adapter. Once you're sure all other settings are correct - baud, ID, com port, etc. - if it still isn't working, try that (I actually have a DB9F plug with tails out to small alligator clips to facilitate this in testing). Edit: something else to try, if that doesn't work... I have actually seen cameras where instead of labeling the connectors' functions, they label it as what you're supposed to hook it to. In other words, when you see "TX(A)/TX(B)", the label would be telling you that those pins are to be connected to the TX lines from the controller... not that they ARE the TX connections. In essence, on these cameras, the TX and RX connections were "reversed". SO if nothing else works, you can try that as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDiverDown 0 Posted January 10, 2010 Again, I'm as close as I can get to having a manual/pdf or doc's for these, but, the one I have matches it's layout. As seen below Just to be clear: pins 3 and 5 are the pins you use on the DB9 serial port on the computer. RS-422 *should* be the right setting for the camera - pin 3 on the serial port would go to RX+ (some mark it "RX(A)"), and pin 5 to RX-/RX(B).As in the image above, I'm assuming *(bad word I know*) the COMM-/COMM+ are the "RX(A)" and "RX-/RX(B)" you are referring to. What "Rx/Tx" light is this?There are three lights on the top right of the board. When I power-up the camera(s), the 1st light will blink(green), then go off. the 2nd will stay on (green); the third comes on RED and stays solid. (I think this is an error for wiring/communications).. the doc's I have DO NOT GIVE ANY details on what the lights mean. When connected to PTZ Software(demo) we discussed or a copy of 232Analyzer(demo) the 1st light will 'sometimes' blink. ** Channel Switches ** The 232Analyzer(demo) is set to use 255 by default. Tried that but get no response. The PTZ(demo) software gets a blink every now and again from the 1st light, but, nothing that coincides with the 'move' command in the software. Most PTZs, when you power them up, will briefly display info like baud rate, ID number, etc. on-screen. Remember that baud rate and comm parameters (data-parity-stop bit, such as 8N1, 7E1, etc.) must be correct as well, or the camera will receive data, but not be able to read it.Power-Up: watching the video out; the picture comes up beautiful but doesn't 'display' anything other than the image. I've been using the 8N1 settings by default. I'll check more later. Also, I've tried 2400/4800 & 9600. Same results.. I appreciate your help/advice on this. I known when they were 'pulled' from the casino/hotel in Mexico they were working. So.. I'm going to test out the few different ideas you gave me. Thanks again.. Have a great weekend!! SkyDiverDown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDiverDown 0 Posted January 13, 2010 I tried all the different settings you suggested but couldn't get the camera to recognize anything.. I decided to 'bite the bullet' and get a RS232->RS422 adapter and try that.. One question though, should I be using Pelco-D protcol? Thanks Again Sky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 13, 2010 Hard to say. Most (not all) PTZs support Pelco D and/or P as a sort of "generic" protocol, in addition to their own. No idea if that's the case with these, but one or the other is a safe bet to try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdawg 0 Posted January 22, 2010 Hi, Get an American Dynamics Adtte16 controller. On the 3 lights you should have a yellow blinking light(this is verifying that your communications are working correctly). Also make sure your jumper pins areset to "sensornet" configurations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites