G22 0 Posted April 17, 2005 I picked up some RG59 at Home Depot today, it does not say RG59/U however. It says on the cable... RG-59 FOAM 20 AWG 75c (UL) E111378 CL2 CSA LL77501 FT-1 "OR" CATV E135174 Is this good enough to use? It is for an internal dome cam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HTACCESS 0 Posted April 17, 2005 yes, it is, I've used it before, as long as you are not using no twist-on bnc's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 17, 2005 Thx. Is it just basic cheap RG59? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 17, 2005 I think I will wait and get decent RG59 then. I don't want cheap quality cables at all. Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 17, 2005 On a similar note, I also picked up some power cable from Home Depot (looks like phone cord). It is 24AWG. Is that decent enough? The run is prob around 80 feet if that. When our other cam was installed, the tech used 18AWG and the run is around 60 feet and goes outside. It is also inside a Pelco housing w/fan/heater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted April 17, 2005 24AWG is telco wire, try for some 18, or at least double up the telco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 17, 2005 Does it have copper braiding? Cooperman can fill you in on the importance of copper braiding for transmitting CCTV signals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 17, 2005 No, it does not have copper braiding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 17, 2005 This link is of interest: http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11049&highlight=copper#11049 I guess it was bryan1656 and AVCONSULTING who clued me on the importance of copper braiding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) Best to use shielded. Edited April 18, 2005 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 18, 2005 What kind should I use then? Does it say RG59/S or similar? I was going to pick some RG59/U up tomorrow at the local store I deal with... but now I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 18, 2005 This is good stuff: http://www.spytown.com/wespen28siam.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted April 18, 2005 If you are running the wire in a commercial ceiling, always use shielded. There is always electrical wires running the same path or at least crossing your wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 18, 2005 Also true in residential. Can't be avoided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 18, 2005 What markings/codes/etc should I be looking for? I will be getting 100ft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 18, 2005 I *live* at The Depot. You're not going to find what you need there. Your only resource is mail order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted April 18, 2005 I am not understanding this... if U means unshielded in RG59/U, what other names are there for 'shielded'?? RG59/S? That spytown link has RG59/U, then says shielded 95%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaysadeya 0 Posted April 18, 2005 I can't comment on the 'shielded' question other than to say that you want to get copper shielding -- the more copper the better. Others here know a lot more about this, so we should wait to hear from them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted April 18, 2005 http://www.westpenn-cdt.com/pdfs/coax_train.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted April 18, 2005 Plenum is fire code and not necessary if not specified. Double the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted April 18, 2005 and for those without Acrobat.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted April 18, 2005 The current cable designation numbers are at best severely flawed. How are coaxial cables identified? Well technically, only cables that are made to U.S. Government specifications can be marked with the "RG" designation. But in reality, many manufacturers/importers pay little or no attention to the requirements. In those situations, it is up to the purchaser to demand that specific standards be fulfilled. However, as sadly as it is, most of the energy goes into bickering over the cost instead of the quality. And even if the cable carries the designated number, there are often cost cutting activities going on right under your nose. Following find the designated characters legend for cables. R - Means … Radio Frequency G - Means … Government 8 - The number in a government assigned approval number /U - Means it is a universal application. Letters that appear before the /U characters (i.e. A, B or C) means a specification modification or revision. For instance, it is common in the CB industry to see the designation RG-58A/U. The original RG-58/U coaxial cable had a solid enter conduct. The "A" modification replaced the solid center conductor with a more flexible stranded center conductor (that is highly recommended for use in mobile installations). http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/rg-flaws.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AVCONSULTING 0 Posted April 18, 2005 To simplify matters, only use coaxial cable with copper braid and copper core. No aluminum at all. 95% copper braid is best but short runs are ok with 70%. Very important to get copper braid. Power wire should be 18 ga. Short runs 20 ga ok. 24 ga is way too thin even if you pair some together. Your voltage drop will be terrible and will result in bad video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites