Can you ID this PTZ ball camera?

[Squiffy 0]

I'm just curious about the spec. :

 

TIA

[tomcctv 190]

I'm just curious about the spec. :

 

TIA

 

looks just like a camera called the metal mickey. very powerfull camera. they are all over the place in the uk.

SPEC,

750mts range

 

The new "Metal Mickey" MIC1-412 Thermal installed by Cam-tech is able to give an optical overview of a scene thanks to its integrated day/night camera then, at the flick of a switch in the control room, the camera delivers thermal images with a detection range of over 780 metres. A number of thermal modes are afforded to the user including white hot, black hot and fire and ice displays. Brushless motor The MIC1-412 Thermal is machined from 6mm aluminium and rated to IP67 making it the most ruggedised optical and thermal CCTV solution currently available.

 

Brushless motor

 

It is the latest in Forward Vision's MIC1 series to feature brushless motor technology as standard. The brushless motors deliver unrivalled silent pan-tilt-zoom operation while groundbreaking 'resolver' technology provides the camera operator with a full 360° continuous rotation pan and an unprecedented 320° tilt control - all with pin-point accuracy. Peter Dobson, one of Forward Vision's founding engineers, states "A pre-production MIC1-412 was unveiled at the Extreme Group's recent Open Days in Manchester and London, generating a number of orders. Buyers told us they liked its ability to cover all aspects of detection and surveillance in one extremely flexible unit, regardless of the installed environment and conditions."

[Squiffy 0]

Thanks, it looks similar, but not quite the same as far as I can tell. The camera you describe would seem to be somewhat of an overkill for the location also. Perhaps the version without FLIR?

 

Here are a couple more photos which may help, but unfortunately both are blurred

http://yfrog.com/jpcamid1j

http://yfrog.com/bgcamid2j

[tomcctv 190]

Thanks, it looks similar, but not quite the same as far as I can tell. The camera you describe would seem to be somewhat of an overkill for the location also. Perhaps the version without FLIR?

 

Here are a couple more photos which may help, but unfortunately both are blurred

http://yfrog.com/jpcamid1j

http://yfrog.com/bgcamid2j

 

 

http://www.cam-techsecurity.co.uk/cctv-cctv-specialist-cameras--new-metal-mickey-cctv-camera-and-thermal-imager-for-kent-london-installation.htm

 

next time you look at the camera take a look at what it is seeing. some here are watching a bank entrance. but the cam is 700m away small but powerfull and mega bucks

[Squiffy 0]

Thanks again, I'm pretty sure it only had a single lens, so I guess it must be this one, or similar: http://www.cctvcenterwi.com/products/fv/mic1400alu.pdf

[kensplace 0]

They do quite a few models in the range, they are also used in the UK TV series Big Brother...

[kensplace 0]

Its a good job the police did not see whoever it was taking the photo's doing it, they are sometimes really over the top when it comes to people taking pictures of CCTV/Security equipment...

 

They have had adverts telling people to report suspected terrorist behaviour, including people paying attention to cctv cameras, photographing them etc..

 

Its a bit of a pain, when you are heavily into CCTV and also like photography....

[rory 0]

Extreme CCTV/Derwent had that model, now taken over by Bosch.

http://products.boschsecurity.us/en/TAMS/products/bxp/CATM6d4c535dddd3e10017937591ea310543

[Squiffy 0]

> Its a good job the police did not see whoever it was taking the photo's doing it, they are sometimes really over the top when it comes to people taking pictures of CCTV/Security equipment...

 

It was me taking the photos. There was no police around (usually just PCSOs anyway, they can't afford police to patrol the town centre...) and the CCTV is seldom manned, so I wasn't concerned

 

BTW, with apologies for getting somewhat off-topic, there was a murder in broad daylight near to these camera locations a few years ago. Not only was there no town centre CCTV monitoring at that time (as in a centralised office) but the cameras were not even working

 

Thanks for the other replies

[Guest]

Thanks, it looks similar, but not quite the same as far as I can tell. The camera you describe would seem to be somewhat of an overkill for the location also. Perhaps the version without FLIR?

 

Here are a couple more photos which may help, but unfortunately both are blurred

http://yfrog.com/jpcamid1j

http://yfrog.com/bgcamid2j

 

It looks like a standard Micky to me.

 

It has a camera/lens module which is fitted in a large number of high end dome cameras, so the range is not exceptional. ie 1/4" CCD 3.4mm to 122.4mm in the 36x zoom version.

 

I have my own reservations about this type of camera assembly with concerns about system design and maintenance.

 

Ilkie

 

P.S I would have used the canted version in that application.

 

 

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[rory 0]

According to the flickr webpage it is a Bosch Mic400

 

http://products.boschsecurity.us/en/TAMS/products/bxp/SKUPFT6203351307.P1.F.01U.141.250-CATM6d4c535dddd3e10017937591ea310543

[Squiffy 0]

> According to the flickr webpage it is a Bosch Mic400

 

Rory, it's my Flickr page, so I updated the description when I realised this

 

Interesting comments Ilkie, my own reservations relate to the siting and height of the two I saw. Too near building obstructions and at that height (about 50ft) they'll generally just have views of the tops of people's heads. The mast is rather thin too, which make me wonder how they'll fare in strong winds.

[Guest]

> According to the flickr webpage it is a Bosch Mic400

 

Rory, it's my Flickr page, so I updated the description when I realised this

 

Interesting comments Ilkie, my own reservations relate to the siting and height of the two I saw. Too near building obstructions and at that height (about 50ft) they'll generally just have views of the tops of people's heads. The mast is rather thin too, which make me wonder how they'll fare in strong winds.

 

There is also a concern about form over function.

 

I have clients who specify them as they look nice.

 

No consideration of whether the performance meets the OR.

 

I am not saying there is anything wrong with the performance of these units as this is a high quality product range, but expensive.

 

The second issue is the growth of this type of camera assembly has de-skilled the industry.

 

There are no way of fixing anything in this camera. All repairs need to be sent back to the manufacturer. Once you have programmed the software you might as well be fitting a lightbulb.

 

Ilkie

[rory 0]

> According to the flickr webpage it is a Bosch Mic400

 

Rory, it's my Flickr page, so I updated the description when I realised this

 

LOL sorry my bad

[Squiffy 0]

> There are no way of fixing anything in this camera. All repairs need to be sent back to the manufacturer.

 

Like most electronics these days, which are not even intended to be repaired, just disposed of and replaced

[Biphase 0]

Where was that photo taken?

[Squiffy 0]

Basildon, Essex, UK. When revisiting the area, I noticed that their heights had been reduced - either that or there was some peculiar optical illusion the first time!

[blakec 0]

> There are no way of fixing anything in this camera. All repairs need to be sent back to the manufacturer.

 

Like most electronics these days, which are not even intended to be repaired, just disposed of and replaced

 

This is the unfortunate truth, which also is another reason why the warranty's are carefully planned around this. Much like any other sort of electronics the minute that you begin to tamper with it will put your warranty at risk, so sending them back to the manufacturer is a good idea. Sometimes you may luck out and they will work out a deal for you if you are a long time customer.

[jonny 0]

It is a Mic1-400 but froward Vision has now been taken over by bosh and the turnaround on repairs now is into months. Even getting tech help on this camera now can be a nightmare. When Forward vision where incharge getting assistance was a breeze and turnaround on repairs was at times down to days.

 

If you ever price these into a job I would advise you to include at least 1 spare in the price to try and keep your customers up and running if one goes down.