Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Is it possible to have a camera inside the house and pointed through the window. Will the glass reflect and prevent images? What is your opinion of http://www.equicom.ie/wireless-cctv-camera-system-with-portable-monitor-53-p.asp .i know it is for foaling but I wondered if I could place inside and monitor driveway and if this would need planning permission for cctv? Edit: Hope it is OK to post the link above? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 Is it possible to have a camera inside the house an pointed through the window. Will the glass reflect and prevent images? What is your opinion of http://www.equicom.ie/wireless-cctv-camera-system-with-portable-monitor-53-p.asp .i know it is for foaling but I wondered if I could place inside and monitor driveway and if this would need planning permission for cctv? Hi perrwinkles. with the camera you have posted it will not work very well as the ir will reflect back. plus dont by wireless it never works. you would be better using something like this . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Is it possible to have a camera inside the house an pointed through the window. Will the glass reflect and prevent images? What is your opinion of http://www.equicom.ie/wireless-cctv-camera-system-with-portable-monitor-53-p.asp .i know it is for foaling but I wondered if I could place inside and monitor driveway and if this would need planning permission for cctv? Hi perrwinkles. with the camera you have posted it will not work very well as the ir will reflect back. plus dont by wireless it never works. you would be better using something like this . Will that work from inside?Or would a webcam work from inside?Planning permission is needed here for outside CCTV and I do not want that expense.Thanks for the reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 Is it possible to have a camera inside the house an pointed through the window. Will the glass reflect and prevent images? What is your opinion of http://www.equicom.ie/wireless-cctv-camera-system-with-portable-monitor-53-p.asp .i know it is for foaling but I wondered if I could place inside and monitor driveway and if this would need planning permission for cctv? Hi perrwinkles. with the camera you have posted it will not work very well as the ir will reflect back. plus dont by wireless it never works. you would be better using something like this . Will that work from inside?Or would a webcam work from inside?Planning permission is needed here for outside CCTV and I do not want that expense.Thanks for the reply where are you that you need planning permission ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 where are you that you need planning permission ??? IRELAND Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
videotiger 0 Posted April 28, 2010 You will definitely get reflections off of the inside of the window, especially if the window catches full sunlight. I also agree that a camera with built-in IR illuminators will absolutely not work in this installation configuration at night due to the same reason. One option is to put a polarized filter on the camera and adjust it to eliminated light reflected off of the inside of the window. I've done it for an inside-the-window camera installation I did. I'm guessing that your mounting location is necessary because you have CC&R's which require approval before installing items like exterior cameras. NB: the filter will significantly cut down on the light that eventually reaches the imaging device in the camera, so night-time operation will be severely hampered. For that one application, it wasn't an issue: I was watching a house under construction and they stopped before sunset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 where are you that you need planning permission ??? IRELAND you dont need planing permission on a house. in Ireland. i would just buy the camera listed and run it though your tv. its cheaper than the camera you listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 you dont need planing permission on a house. in Ireland. http://kildare.ie/countycouncil/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=267 see third post down i would just buy the camera listed and run it though your tv. its cheaper than the camera you listed.you meanthe bullet camera. Where do i get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Thanks for reply One option is to put a polarized filter on the camera and adjust it to eliminated light reflected off of the inside of the window. How would i do that I'm guessing that your mounting location is necessary because you have CC&R's which require approval before installing items like exterior cameras.because pp is needed outside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 you dont need planing permission on a house. in Ireland. http://kildare.ie/countycouncil/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=267 see third post down i would just buy the camera listed and run it though your tv. its cheaper than the camera you listed.you meanthe bullet camera. Where do i get it? planing permission is needed if your system is looking into a public space. so your gardens and drive way is fine the biggest cctv company in Ireland http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/cameras.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 planing permission is needed if your system is looking into a public space. so your gardens and drive way is fine Not right. i was told by the planning folk it is needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 planing permission is needed if your system is looking into a public space. so your gardens and drive way is fine Not right. i was told by the planning folk it is needed you are only putting a camera though your tv. this is not a cctv system and you dont need planing. if you are watching your own property you are fine. buy a cheap camcorder and put that in the window Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 buy a cheap camcorder and put that in the windowon the inside? Will the glass reflect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted 0 Posted April 28, 2010 buy a cheap camcorder and put that in the windowon the inside? Will the glass reflect?If you place the camera as close as possible to the glass surface and keep it as dark as possible inside, you will minimize any reflections. There will probably be some, thats unavoidable but keeping light out between the lens and the glass will help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 buy a cheap camcorder and put that in the windowon the inside? Will the glass reflect? Hi you will only get reflection if your camera has ip lights around the lens (this is what will bounce back from your window) this might be a better idea for you and it is not classed as cctv in Ireland. http://www.securesight.com/security_cameras.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 There will probably be some, thats unavoidable but keeping light out between the lens and the glass will help.ThanksWhat do you think of http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?view_product=1&id=26121&sid=23&cid=4125&scid=9769 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 There will probably be some, thats unavoidable but keeping light out between the lens and the glass will help.ThanksWhat do you think of http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?view_product=1&id=26121&sid=23&cid=4125&scid=9769 Hi perrywinkles yes that will do the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Hi you will only get reflection if your camera has ip lights around the lens this might be a better idea for you and it is not classed as cctv in Ireland.http://www.securesight.com/security_cameras.php Tom What is ip light? Do you have any idea of the price of the securelight camera in light?seen on another site for £130. Are you sure it is not considered cctv in ireland? thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted 0 Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Hi you will only get reflection if your camera has ip lights around the lens this might be a better idea for you and it is not classed as cctv in Ireland.http://www.securesight.com/security_cameras.php Tom What is ip light? Do you have any idea of the price of the securelight camera in light?seen on another site for £130. Are you sure it is not considered cctv in ireland? thanks I'm sure he ment IR light I have no clue about Ireland but in Sweden it doesn't matter wether it is CCTV or not. The law just states that you need permit to point a camera, that isn't "hand held", to an area that permits public access. Wether it is a train station or the pavement outside your own house doesn't matter. Even if you point the camera to observe your drive way, it must not cover any public areas. Edited April 28, 2010 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Hi you will only get reflection if your camera has ip lights around the lens this might be a better idea for you and it is not classed as cctv in Ireland.http://www.securesight.com/security_cameras.php Tom What is ip light? Do you have any idea of the price of the securelight camera in light?seen on another site for £130. Are you sure it is not considered cctv in ireland? thanks I'm sure he ment IR lightinfra red light? no leds no reflection? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 28, 2010 Thanks Ted yes i ment ir ..... been ordering ip cameras all day got it on the brain. the secuesight light is between £90 and £150 you are best contacting them though the website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted 0 Posted April 28, 2010 infra red light? no leds no reflection?If you have a space between the lens and a glass surface you could get reflections. For example, a two glass window you could get some reflections from the outer glass since light comes in between the lens and that glass. If you press your nose to a window and cover the sides between your eyes and the window with your hands you will see better, but there will be a little reflections from the outer glass anyway. The darker inside the better view. If you use IR-light built in the camera around the lens it will reflect from the window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sawbones 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Permission required to point a camera at a public place? Really? Wow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perrywinkles 0 Posted April 28, 2010 I have no clue about Ireland but in Sweden it doesn't matter wether it is CCTV or not. The law just states that you need permit to point a camera, that isn't "hand held", to an area that permits public access. Wether it is a train station or the pavement outside your own house doesn't matter. Even if you point the camera to observe your drive way, it must not cover any public areas.I will check if the light camera need pp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted 0 Posted April 28, 2010 Permission required to point a camera at a public place? Really? Wow... Oh yes, and for other areas, like schools, offices, factories where people work there is another law that regulates how personal data is handled, only applicable though if you store as digital images. On tape there are no problems at such places. We are held at a short leash in Sweden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites