mbhsaz 0 Posted June 10, 2010 I need your advise on this dome. I am planning to use it for our 70' x 70' parking lot. There are motion lights and also some street lights. How is the image quality specially at night? I already tried CNB VBM-24VF, but can't see the face after more than a few feets. This dome will give us good face recognition at a distance we need (per IP/CCTV design tool) but I am concerned about image quality. So what do you think? TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropna 0 Posted June 10, 2010 Plese, read my short "report" there: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11322&start=210 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhsaz 0 Posted June 10, 2010 shropna Thanks and pardon my ignorance, but why does night shot look so awful? I was expecting much better image from a 4MP True Day/Night Camera. Can it be tweaked further? However, day shot look good to me. Any Idea know how far is black pickup truck from the camera? I got below when trying to connect to your link: 09/06/2010 6:13:25 W02 POWER RECOVER(POWER LOSS 07/06/2010 7:27:12) TIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 11, 2010 technology is still catching up... add lots of light or lots of IR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Thanks and pardon my ignorance, but why does night shot look so awful? I was expecting much better image from a 4MP True Day/Night Camera. Can it be tweaked further? However, day shot look good to me. Any Idea know how far is black pickup truck from the camera? just curios, what do you expect from night shot ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhsaz 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Don't get me wrong.... I was only comparing it with night shot of mobotix m12's.... BTW, shouldn't a 4MP produce a better picture than a 3MP? viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11322&start=225 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Don't get me wrong.... I was only comparing it with night shot of mobotix m12's.... BTW, shouldn't a 4MP produce a better picture than a 3MP? viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11322&start=225 Yes and No As number of pixels Yes but quality could be bad too many cameras on market with the same pix count too many variables to talk about I personally like Sanyo cams and I don't like or care about night shots up to my customers to decide if u find night you like plz post just curios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted June 11, 2010 and I don't like or care about night shots im the opposite .. 99% of my clients only care about night shots . .. its when all the criminals come out to play BUT .. big BUT .. I am starting to lean more towards MP cameras .. if only for the fact there are very few if any doing that here. The cost is still the killer here, we pay more hefty shipping plus customs duty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 11, 2010 BUT .. big BUT .. I am starting to lean more towards MP cameras .. Say what?!?! Can't wait to finally see a good shot of that Jeep of yours... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted June 11, 2010 BUT .. big BUT .. I am starting to lean more towards MP cameras .. Say what?!?! Can't wait to finally see a good shot of that Jeep of yours... " title="Applause" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropna 0 Posted June 11, 2010 shropna Thanks and pardon my ignorance, but why does night shot look so awful? I was expecting much better image from a 4MP True Day/Night Camera. Can it be tweaked further? However, day shot look good to me. Any Idea know how far is black pickup truck from the camera? I got below when trying to connect to your link: 09/06/2010 6:13:25 W02 POWER RECOVER(POWER LOSS 07/06/2010 7:27:12) TIA. Pickup is not far away. Only 10 meters about. Lighting - one natrium lamp at parking center.. That camera can produce "better" night picture, but only with slow shutter. Thats difference between another megapixel cameras You can see more "better" results with another cameras at still picture, but please, ask somebody to walk around cars in parking About link. Not only me manage cameras on that link. You can see different cameras on that address, also, bad adjusted cameras.... At that moment camera isn't 3500.... And not my adjusted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted June 11, 2010 BUT .. big BUT .. I am starting to lean more towards MP cameras .. Say what?!?! Can't wait to finally see a good shot of that Jeep of yours... Obviously not at night though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Just use that existing bullet as an IR illuminator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropna 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Just use that existing bullet as an IR illuminator To illuminate what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted June 11, 2010 Just use that existing bullet as an IR illuminator lol .. actually there is a ton of light but no way could i afford an mp camera just to watch a vehicle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 12, 2010 I've got a demo'd acti I can sell ya for real cheap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted June 12, 2010 If you want to get your feet wet with Megapixel, I'd second the recommendation of Acti, probably the cheapest way to go with something decent, their newer firmwares keep adding a lot of nice features. An ACM-4201 (I use a lot of these indoors) with a better lens (the one it comes with is crap), and put into an enclosure, would do pretty well if you have good lighting (no D/N cutfilter). Probably the lowest cost option. ACM-1231 (Bullet) or ACM-7411 (dome) would be the next step up. Their newest firmwares include UP&P, Bonjour, and SNMP management. I'm planning to add SNMP to one of my larger sites soon, to help with alerting for outages and network problems. Acti doesn't seem to have published the SNMP OID's, though, so it looks like I'm going to have to do a SNMP walk on it and try to determine what the OID values mean (has anyone already tried this?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 12, 2010 What style and make/ model of lenses you using? I knew they were interchangeable but never payed attention or tried anything on the couple I've installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted June 12, 2010 I've been using the Fujinon YV2.8x2.8SA-2, it's a 2.8-8mm, F1.2 Megapixel model, but any true megapixel lens would be a huge improvement. I'll try to post some before and after shots next week, but the difference is huge, really worth the extra cost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpzle 0 Posted June 12, 2010 Interesting... That would be awesome to see the comparison Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted June 12, 2010 I also use alot of 4201's but I haven't tried different lenses on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted June 14, 2010 I put a before and after from the 4201 in the Megapixel images category.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites