lshap421@gmail.com 0 Posted June 24, 2010 Hello Everyone, I am opening a Supermarket which will have 16 cameras. I don't want to play games with my surveillance system. I am looking for a top of the line 16ch DVR that has PTZ control, built in DVDRW, a larg capacity hard drive (i don't mind adding a 1 or 2 tb drive myself as long as the price reflects not coming with hdd). I want it it have all useful features. I'm just confused because I see many from $600 usd to $1200. I don't want to be a cheapo, but I know that because some website charges more for their dvr doesnt mean it is better. Any guidance and recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. LShap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted June 24, 2010 Are you set on standalone, or are you okay with PC-based? Check out www.3xlogic.com - Vigil fits all your specifications, and being PC-based can easily have more drive space added. Hybrid as well, if you should want to upgrade to IP cameras later. These are spec for two of Canada's major oil companies that we service, as well as a large upscale restaurant chain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lshap421@gmail.com 0 Posted June 24, 2010 I believer DVR is better for me at this point. I would require that it be networkable however. I would like to avoid buying a pc if I can achieve the same with a 16 channel dvr, dvdrw, netowrkable and can control ptz. what do you guys think? and which DVR should I go with. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted June 24, 2010 I believer DVR is better for me at this point. I would require that it be networkable however. I would like to avoid buying a pc if I can achieve the same with a 16 channel dvr, dvdrw, netowrkable and can control ptz. what do you guys think? and which DVR should I go with. Thanks this avermedia will do more than what you need. AVerDiGi IWH3216 Touch AVerDiGi IWH3216 Touch incorporated the latest dual core processor specification that delivers significant CPU performance on multiple concurrent tasks and outstanding video quality. The shining ocean-blue light, sensitive touch front panel and slick-look exterior as well as dual touch monitor support, have made AVerDiGi IWH3216 Touch the most efficient and user-friendly DVR in the market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCTV_Suppliers 0 Posted June 24, 2010 Price range does determine what type of DVR you can get... Too many to choose from, but from my perspective, many supermarkets use American Dynamics Intellex systems... - http://americandynamics.net and this may be a good fit for your application. These systems come with very rich set of features and functions, expandable to up to 4.0TB internal storage or more dependent on the requirements - frame rate, resolution and number of days of recording needs. You also can interface POS transactions recording with video, so that you can actually have real time video with transaction for further review... Bosch also has some very decent machines that perform similar feature and functions... and with excellent technical support and warranty. - http://products.boschsecurity.us/en/TAMS/products/bxp/CATM3f162c3179018f3a0fbc5dc587404bfd What comes in mind also is the latest CBC America DVRs that are very easy to use and yet very powerful. - http://computarganz.com/index.cfm Panasonic is yet another one, but even more pricey... - http://www.panasonic.com/business/security All these models come with no nonsense three year warranty and solid technical support. All work with various type of cameras and PTZ domes controlled locally and remotely. Some combinations could be mixed and matched, so you do not have use one specific brand of everything (except Bosch)... i.e. control Panasonic PTZ domes with CBC DVRs, or control American Dynamics domes with Panasonic or any variations... How many fixed cameras and PTZ domes you want to use or may already have existing? What are the make and models? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lshap421@gmail.com 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Price range is about $1000-1200. Is a dvr the wrong idea as opposed to pc based or hybrid systems. Is my price range unrealistic? I have cpro vrd-135 vandal resistant domes with cb60h cameras. I dont have any ptz cameras yet but would like to upgrade to having a few in some key places once the business is open and there is some money coming in. Until then I hope to use the cb60h's and pick up some cheap IR cameras for night monitoring. Thank you everyone for helping me out here. http://www.cpro-cam.com/product/product/VRD135-CB60H-TDN-IV%281%29.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCTV_Suppliers 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Price range is about $1000-1200. Is a dvr the wrong idea as opposed to pc based or hybrid systems. Is my price range unrealistic? I have cpro vrd-135 vandal resistant domes with cb60h cameras. I dont have any ptz cameras yet but would like to upgrade to having a few in some key places once the business is open and there is some money coming in. Until then I hope to use the cb60h's and pick up some cheap IR cameras for night monitoring. Thank you everyone for helping me out here. http://www.cpro-cam.com/product/product/VRD135-CB60H-TDN-IV%281%29.pdf I am not familiar with these cameras and chances are good that they are decent and it will not matter anyway for the DVR selection. Price range does dictate limitations on what you can get of course.. I can only vouch for major manufacturers products and I am sure there are other second tier products that work as well... For this price range, CBC America makes a very decent 16-ch DVRs... I see there are at least nine model available for your application here: http://cctvportal.com/dvrs/9-16-ch-dvr?cat=564&manufacturer=138 What is very neat about these DVRs is that you can pickup the unit and add storage yourself. Some of the models come with no internal drives, so you can pick and choose and add whatever storage that you may need. Any other questions, let us know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lshap421@gmail.com 0 Posted June 25, 2010 How about something like this? http://www.primuscable.com/store/p/2473-16-Channel-H-264-DVR-W-1000-GB-Hard-Drive.aspx?feed=Froogle Is anyone familiar with this product? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edselrt 0 Posted June 25, 2010 How about something like this? http://www.primuscable.com/store/p/2473-16-Channel-H-264-DVR-W-1000-GB-Hard-Drive.aspx?feed=Froogle Is anyone familiar with this product? This can only record CIF @15fps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vin2install 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Great DVR Awesome tech support Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted June 25, 2010 I have an older DynaColor DynaGuard 208 sitting on my bench that I pulled out of a site, I haven't had a chance to use it in a production environment, but I've played with it on my bench, and I was fairly impressed with the feature set and the ease of use and configuration. We replaced it because it was locking up after a minute or so of operation... turned out to just be a bad hard drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edselrt 0 Posted June 25, 2010 what about this? http://www.hikvisionusa.com/series3.html CIF at 30fps.. known brand or this: http://www.ameta.ca/product_detail.php?pid=208&cid=4 way cheaper but good quality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites