mdh 0 Posted August 2, 2010 Hi, I am trying to design a new system and need to include some externally mounted cameras. How can I determine if the cameras will be good enought for general surveillance without additional lighting without actually visiting the site at night? I am looking to use IP cameras and this is in a city park-like environment. Is there any rule of thumb that can be used? For example, if a camera has a spec sheet that states the camera has a sensitivity of colour 0.12 lux and B/W 0.03 lux @ f1.2, what kind of performance would I expect in ambient light at night? The camera is a CMOS imager, mechanical IR filter, and the distance to the target image is about 20-m (using a fixed lens). Would I be able to recognise facial features or only that there was a person in the field of view (or worse nothing at all)? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stanislav 0 Posted August 3, 2010 See some basic principles here: "The principles of CCTV design in VideoCAD. Part 4. Illumination and camera sensitivity in CCTV" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cglaeser 0 Posted August 3, 2010 Good question. Unfortunately, there is not an easy answer. Unlike the photo world where there have been well-established and well-understood standards for features such as film sensitivity since the dawn of photography, the CCTV industry pretty much depends on each manufacturer to come up with their own ratings for features like low-light lux. It's really not possible to purchase one camera over another based on lux ratings on a data sheet without knowing more about the manufacturers and the camera models. Best, Christopher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisP 0 Posted August 16, 2010 I have used ip megapixel cameras in my installs. These cameras have CMOS sensors. One thing I noticed, is with CMOS cameras there is a ghost effect at night. All the movement is blurred. It doesnt matter if the camera has ir cut filter. To fix this issue, use CCD based ip cameras or use a CMOS camera, increase the shutter speed and add a decent ir illuminator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang93 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Stick with CCD imagers and if you can, IR illuminators. Bosch cameras are awesome at night but they need some ambient light to perform. Bosch illuminators would have no problem illuminating out to 20m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted August 25, 2010 I have used ip megapixel cameras in my installs. These cameras have CMOS sensors.One thing I noticed, is with CMOS cameras there is a ghost effect at night. All the movement is blurred. It doesnt matter if the camera has ir cut filter. To fix this issue, use CCD based ip cameras or use a CMOS camera, increase the shutter speed and add a decent ir illuminator. What CCD megapixel cameras do you recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisP 0 Posted August 25, 2010 You can use Acti TCM-5311 and Dynacolor are a few. In the end you might have to go with CMOS since all the major manufacturers are using CMOS sensors to keep the cost down. If thats the case, get auto iris cmos cameras that are day and night capable and use a good ir illuminator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted August 25, 2010 You can use Acti TCM-5311 and Dynacolor are a few. In the end you might have to go with CMOS since all the major manufacturers are using CMOS sensors to keep the cost down. If thats the case, get auto iris cmos cameras that are day and night capable and use a good ir illuminator. Arecont 3130/3135 or Mobotix M12 both CMOS best low light megapixel cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisP 0 Posted August 25, 2010 I love arecont cameras. Amazing picture quality. I have used them with Tamron lenses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites