Any Megapixel True Day Night IR Cameras w 100+ IR built in?

[rory 0]

Doesnt have to be dual CCD .. but something to replace the type of all in one camera like an Extreme CCTV EX82 .. 100-150' real world IR Built in, no external IR, no visible light, for pitch dark, as the EX82's IR works. I see Bosch has something (they bought out Extreme) but looking to see if there is anything from the other big players out there, especially for greater software control. I see mobotix and arecont have dual day night cameras but dont see anything with IR Built in? And a basic True day night IR bullet wont do it unfortunately, been there tried that already. For an existing client this would mean running all new wire and also a new network setup which is a push but it would beat trying to find something from the HDCCTV area

 

Thanks.

[Sawbones 0]

Just out of curiosity, why would you want that?

 

I've gone away from camera-integrated IR almost entirely, and use separate illuminators. You can adjust the power more easily, and going separate provides a VERY wide selection of illuminator beams/wavelengths/models/etc.

 

Not to mention the bug problem...

[rory 0]

because I want an all in one.

 

I never really had the bug problem with the EX82's, perhaps its because the IR is so strong it keeps the bugs away due to the heat within a foot of it? You would get the odd spider web depending where it was located, some never have it, but it hardly ever goes over the front area. Dont know .. but its not as bad as with the basic IR Bullet Cameras. Seriously though with the EX82 you cant just stand within a foot of it with the IR on and not expect to have a health problem!

 

Ok well for cosmetic looks as well ... one device compared to having 2 hanging off the wall.

Also for installation .. easier to install really .. less holes in the wall .. etc.

 

Ive certainly gone the separate IR route before .. recall Sanyo True Day Night Box camera in Housing with dual UF500 IRs ... or Day Night box camera in housing with UF100, various models from 30 degree to 60 degree beams, 750nm to 940nm ... been there done that ... total PITA ... in fact when one EX82 died recently, the color camera's IRIS went bad after 9 years, I just mounted a color IR camera next to it and used the EX82 IR only ... works great actually .. yes 2 separate things but it was a quick fix .. absolutely not cosmetic in the least! That is being changed ofcourse

 

With a camera like the EX82 you can adjust the power separately for the Infrared as well. Its simple as 123. Its not the average IR bullet camera .. and not even as constrained even as the best true day night IR bullet camera .. certainly not anything like it .. its in a world of its own. Yes it has had its issues in the last batch we had, mostly photocell related .. but the IR is outstanding no questions asked. I came to see this many years ago but even more so especially when I recently used a rather expensive 160'+ True Day Night Infrared Bullet camera, not small either by the way, which although was easy to install and was great in the day, didnt come close to even the oldest EX82 at night. I've put up many cameras against these over the years .. not even a match.

 

So why do I want it ??? Not just because I want it. .. but also because my clients want it.

This is what they have had and it worked great for them .. only now I am seeking out higher resolution options short of going the EX85 route, or leaving it as it is!

 

Now if i am doing it for myself, and dont mind the time and labour .. sure I have a True Day Night IR bullet with an IR dome mounted beside it just for the additional IR and directed as i need it ... but thats me ... clients and me are 2 different things ... i do for me for free ... i can spend all the time in the world and also dont care if I have 3 things mounted hanging off my wall, I really dont care for me what it looks like long as it works .. but for clients ... different story all together.

 

BTW in no way am I trying to promote the Bosch EX82.

I have no idea what their version is like now.

[hardwired 0]

I haven't seen anything like that, and I think you would run into the limit of the PoE standard (15.4 watts, for 802.3af) not being able to drive a very large illuminator, plus the camera draw.

 

The newer standards (802.3at high power, 34 watts or so) could help with that, but it is not widely implemented yet.

[buellwinkle 0]

Check out the Messoa NCR875, has 25m illuminators built in, or about 80'. Besides that, from what I've seen, it also has pretty decent night vision without the illuminators.