Dar 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Fellow members I am just a member of the public looking for some advice on a CCTV sytem for my home with a dvr I have been recommend a certain type of camera by several sales people 1/3" SONY CCD High Resolution 30M IR Day / Night Weather Proof 4-9mm VariFocal Cable Managed Camera but the price difference between is nearly £200 between the bottom and top price. Which do i buy as they all mention Sony in them so should the case it is in matter? Your advice would be great as need to buy something this week Camera 1/3" SONY CCD High Resolution 30M IR Day / Night Weather Proof 4-9mm VariFocal Cable Managed Camera 1/3" Colour Sony HAD Sensor Vari-Focal 4-9mm Lens Built-in 36 pieces IR-LED IR Effective range up to 30M IP66 Rating Cable Management Bracket 540 TVL High Resolution 3-Axis Bracket This is a superb External CCTV camera full of professional features, it has a high resolution of 540TVL giving you a great quality image and with 36 IR LEDs can see up to 30 Metres in complete darkness. It has a 4-9mm Vari-focal lens fitted so you can adjust the zoom & focus (this can be done via the rear of the camera using a small flat screw driver). With the 3-Axis bracket the camera can be mounted in almost any situation and adjusted to give you the perfect view, last but not least the cables run through the actual bracket of the camera directly into the wall to avoid people cutting cables. Model ICU30540 Image Sensor 1/3" SONY Horizontal Resolution 540 TV Line Pixels PAL:795(H)x596(V) NTSC:811(H)x508(V) TV System PAL/NTSC IR LED ¢5 X 36 PCS IR Series Distance 30 M Lens Var-Focal Lens 4-9mm Sync System Internal IR Status Under 10 Lux By CDS Usable Illumination 0 Lux/F2.0 (LED ON) IR Power On CDS Auto Control S/N Ratio ≥48dB (AGC OFF) Gamma Correction 0.45 Video Out Composite Signal (1.0Vp-p, 75Ω) Scanning System PAL:625 Lines, 50 Field/Sec;NTSC:525 Lines, 60 Field/Sec Electronic Shutter Time Auto:PAL 1/50-1/100,000Sec;NTSC 1/60-1/100,000Sec Operation Temperature -10° ~ +50° RH95% Max Storage Temperature -20° ~ +60° RH95% Max White Balance Auto Power Source DC12V 400mA Dimension 228(W) x 97(H) x 82(D)mm Weight 1200G DVR Apollo HD 4 Channel H.264 Networked DVR with Mobile Access HD Ready, 720p H.264 Video Compression Technology Composite, VGA and HDMI Outputs D1 Recording @ 6fps per Channel Real-time CIF Recording @ 25fps per Channel 4 Channel Audio Remote Connection via Client and Web Dual Stream Ideal for Internet Transmission USB Backup This industry leading DVR not only offers fantastic value for money but excellent performance as well. The DVR has features way and above others in its class including real time CIF recording across all channels or 6fps at D1 Resolution. As standard the DVR utilizes industry leading H.264 compression & USB Back up as standard, Mobile phone compatibility, central monitoring compatible and dual stream technology for the best internet viewing and video transmission. In addition to this the DVR comes with 3 monitor outputs including VGA, BNC and HDMI allowing High Definition viewing for all. The Apollo is understandably a well established and highly regarded DVR, however for additional peace of mind the Apollo comes with a 3 year warranty as standard. SYSTEM Main Processor High Performance Embedded Microprocessor Operating System Embedded Linux System Resources Pentaplex function; Live, Recording, Playback, Back-Up and Remote Access User Interface GUI, on-screen menu tips Control Mode Front Panel, USB Mouse, IR Remote Control, Keyboard, Network Input Method Numeral/Character/Denotation System Status HDD status, data stream statistics, log record, bios version, on-line user etc. VIDEO Input 4 channel, BNC, 1.0Vp-p, 75Ω Video Output 1 channel TV output, BNC, 1.0Vp- p, 75Ω, 1 VGA output, 1 HDMI output Video Standard PAL(625Line, 50f/s), NTSC(525Line, 60f/s) Video Compression H.264 Video Resolution PAL: D1 (4CIF) 704X576, CIF 352X288, QCIF 176 x 144 Video Recording Realtime 25fps CIF on all channels, with Channel 1 can be 4CIF @ 25fps on the 4&8 Channel Model, and channel 1&8 on 16 Model. Or all channels set to 4CIF recording with a max of 6fps on each channel Display Split Full and multiple screen display, 1 / 4 / 8 / 9 / 16 Tour Display Support Image Quality 1-6 (level 6 being the best) Privacy Masking 4 Self-defined four-sided zones for privacy masking for each camera Camera Lock Camera locked for users Camera Adjustment Adjust colour according to different time periods Video Information Camera title, time, video loss, camera lock, motion detection, recording TV Output Adjustment Adjust TV Output colour and display zone AUDIO Audio Input 4 Channel, BNC, 200-2800mV, 30K Ohms Bidirectional Talk Input 1 Channel, BNC 200-2800mV, 30K Ohms Audio Output 1 Channel, BNC, 200-3000mv, 5k Ohms Audio Compression G,711 VIDEO DETECTION & ALARM Motion Detection Zones: 396 (22*18) Detection Zones Sensitivity: 1-6 (level 6 is the best) Trigger recording, PTZ movement, tour, alarm Video Loss Trigger recording, PTZ movement, tour, alarm Camera Blank Trigger recording, PTZ movement, tour, alarm Alarm Input 4 channel, programmable, ground,manual open/closed Trigger recording, PTZ movement, tour, alarm Relay output 3/3/3 channel, 30VDC, 1A, NO/NC, form-C HARD DISK Hard Disk 1 SATA Port, 1 HDD Supported Space Occupation Audio: 14.4MB/H Video: 56-500MB/H HDD Management Hard disk hibernation technology, HDD Faulty tips RECORD, PLAYBACK, BACKUP Recording Mode Manual, Continuous, Video Detection (including motion detection, camera blank, video loss), Alarm Recording Priority Manual > Alarm > Video Detection > Continuous Recording Interval 1 to 120 minutes (default 60 mins) pre-record up to 30 seconds, post-record up to 5 minutes Overwrite Mode Support Search Mode Time/Date, Motion Detection and Exact Search (accurate to the second) Playback 4 channel playback simultaneously, pause, stop, rewind, fast play, slow play, next file, previous file, next camera, previous camera, full screen, repeat, shuffle, backup selection Digital Zoom Selected zone can zoom into full screen during playback Backup Mode Flash disk / USB HDD / USB CD/DVD-RW / Network Download NETWORK Interface RJ-45 Port (10/100M) Network Functions TCP/IP, PPPOE, DDNS, FTP, IP Filter Remote Operation Monitor, PTZ control, playback, system setting, file download, log information AUXILIARY INTERFACE USB Interlace 2 Ports, 1 for mouse control, 1 for backup RS232 keyboard, PC communication RS485 PTZ control ENVIROMENTAL Power Supply 220V 50Hz / 110V 60Hz Power Consumption 25W Working Temperature -10°C - +55°C Working Humidity 10%-90% Atmosphere Pressure 86kpa - 106kpa Dimension 1U, 375mmx285mmx45mm (W*D*H) Weight Approx. 2.35Kg Mounting Desktop or rack Apollo HD 4 Channel H.264 Networked DVR with Mobile Access Product Reviews -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Reviews For This Product. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted November 2, 2010 Hi Dar. the appollo is not the type of dvr you would attach £200 cameras too. so i would just pop that quote in the bin. the appollo is a hard machine to work around and getting it over the internet. it is a stupid set-up (which they charge £50 for a support phone call) i would look at buying it yourself and i would look at CNB cameras and a avermedia EB3004 sata net, both of which are far better than your dvr and cameras listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted November 2, 2010 ^What Tom said. And don't let the Sony name fool you - almost all low-to-mid grade cameras use the same Sony sensors, as well as come mid-to-upper grade cameras. Cheaper cameras like to really push the brand name, even implying that the cameras themselves are made by Sony (most aren't), but it doesn't mean that much, especially considering Sony isn't the respected name they once were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dar 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Thanks Tom and Matt for your replys very helpful it is such a mind field that I am glad you took the time to reply So the camera's and DVR are bad or is just the DVR? the cameras are about £110 each Do they sell CNB and avermedia kit in the uk? Thanks Dar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted November 2, 2010 I wouldn't say the cameras are "bad" necessarily... they just don't appear to be anything special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dar 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Hi Gents have found the dvr [edit by mod-store link removed] but cant see the option on it for viewing it from my mobile via the internet if i ever need to check back at the house whilst i am out. Can it do that? Also not having much luck finding in the CNB cameras is there a model number that i can search for? Looking for upto 30m day night external cameras 540tvl Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted November 2, 2010 Hi Gents have found the dvr but cant see the option on it for viewing it from my mobile via the internet if i ever need to check back at the house whilst i am out. Can it do that? Also not having much luck finding in the CNB cameras is there a model number that i can search for? Looking for upto 30m day night external cameras 540tvl Thanks hi. the one you have posted is the avers EB3004 sata MD....... it does not net work you need to look for EB3004 sata net. and it has full mobile viewing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dar 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Thanks Tom Found that now but still stuggling for the cnb cameras what is the make of the one you have a picture of in your first post to me? Googling cnb cameras in the uk nothing really comes up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted November 3, 2010 Thanks Tom Found that now but still stuggling for the cnb cameras what is the make of the one you have a picture of in your first post to me? Googling cnb cameras in the uk nothing really comes up http://www.videcon.co.uk/uploads/files/vlp4026_datasheet_3.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c4pete 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Hi Dar / Tom, I've recently got the apollo dvr you mention and have had no problems setting up access via the internet and mobile etc. I'm also struggling to see why the dvr Tom is recommending is better - the apollo has audio and sensor inpt for all channels and 3 alarm outputs and the same frame rates etc The cnb cameras look a nice spec though - it'd be interesting to see some images from one of these cameras. Have you managed to find any prices for these in the uk? Cheers, Pete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted November 3, 2010 Hi Dar / Tom, I've recently got the apollo dvr you mention and have had no problems setting up access via the internet and mobile etc. I'm also struggling to see why the dvr Tom is recommending is better - the apollo has audio and sensor inpt for all channels and 3 alarm outputs and the same frame rates etc The cnb cameras look a nice spec though - it'd be interesting to see some images from one of these cameras. Have you managed to find any prices for these in the uk? Cheers, Pete. are we seeing the same spec here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dar 0 Posted November 4, 2010 Hi Pete http://www.videcon.co.uk/uploads/files/ ... heet_3.pdf The camera mentioned above is coming in around £200 but needs another bracket as i nedd to to turn 90 deg the DVR £219 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neutech 0 Posted November 25, 2010 Fantastic cameras but alas only available to Trade Installers only ...... Im still waiting on Avermedia to contact me since IFSEC so maybe Tom as your a Avermedia Buff so to speak you can drop me some info and a few demos would be usefull Apollo is not a bad little DVR either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted November 25, 2010 Fantastic cameras but alas only available to Trade Installers only ...... Im still waiting on Avermedia to contact me since IFSEC so maybe Tom as your a Avermedia Buff so to speak you can drop me some info and a few demos would be usefull Apollo is not a bad little DVR either Hi pm you a link ......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites