halam 0 Posted November 17, 2010 hi wanted to knoe which camera will have the better quality image out of the following; a 540 tvl camera with a fixed lense of 3.6mm or a 420 tvl camera with a vario focal lense of 4 to 9mm p.s the two cameras have ir regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted November 17, 2010 Impossible to say based on just that info. *All else being equal* the 540TVL camera will have higher resolution and better image... assuming the listed TVL specs aren't "fudged" (many are, with cheap manufacturers). However, all else is rarely equal... many other factors can have an effect on the image: - The brand and type of sensor - The size of the sensor - The supporting electronics (image processing) - The quality of the lens - The quality of the glass/plastic in the housing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 17, 2010 hi here are the specs of the cameras any good? Model IR SONY 540 Pick Up Element SONY 1/3” CCD Effective Picture Elements ( H*V ) NTSC:510×492, PAL:500×582 Horizontal Resolution 540 TV Lines S/N Ratio More than 48dB Minimum Illumination 0.8 LUX /F1.2 Auto Electronic Shutter NTSC:1/60s~1/100,000s,PAL:1/50s~1/100,000s Video Output 1Vpp,75 Ohms Power/Current 12VDC(+/-10%)/350mA Lens 3.6 mm Weight (g) 260g Storage Temperature -20~ +60 Operating Temperature -10~ +50 4-9mm varifocal lens 1/3” Sony Super HAD CCD Sensor. Specification: 500 x 582 Pixels Pal 420 TV Lines. Auto White Balance Signal to Noise Ratio >48dB 0.5 Lux Day 0.0 Lux IR on Electronic Shutter 1/50 – 1/100000 per sec Power required: 12v 140mA (380mA IR on) Lens: 4-9mm Varifocal Lens Dimensions: 120mmø x 100mm Specification: 500 x 582 Pixels Pal 420 TV Lines. Auto White Balance Signal to Noise Ratio >48dB 0.5 Lux Day 0.0 Lux IR on Electronic Shutter 1/50 – 1/100000 per sec Power required: 12v 140mA (380mA IR on) Lens: 4-9mm Varifocal Lens Dimensions: 120mmø x 100mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vin2install 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Out of these two the second one is better. Even if it is only 420TVL. Effective pixel is the same for both cameras. Plus the second camera has a Super HAD CCD which is better than the regular Sony CCD. Plus the second one looks like its PAL only so you have to make sure its compatible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean00 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Yep, bottom one is better. Thats no 540TVL camera, it's a 330-450TVL camera. Effective pixels on a 540TVL camera would be ~ NTSC: 768(H) x 494(V); PAL: 752(H) x 582(V) To qualify - the PICTURE might not be any better. Probably the same. The varifocal lens is nice because you can fine tune your field of view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 19, 2010 Out of these two the second one is better. Even if it is only 420TVL. Effective pixel is the same for both cameras. Plus the second camera has a Super HAD CCD which is better than the regular Sony CCD.Plus the second one looks like its PAL only so you have to make sure its compatible. thanks for the help, what do you mean by 'PAL'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean00 0 Posted November 19, 2010 Not a simple question. But I'll give you both a very dumbed down answer, and links for you to read up if your interested in the reality of it. Really Dumded Down Answer: PAL is the video format for Europe(and a very good portion of the rest of the world), NTSC is the video format for the US. Real Answer: PAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL NTSC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 19, 2010 oh right, thanks. yeah my dvr is compatable with pal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 22, 2010 hi ive just bought and fitted the variofocal cameras they have the exact same picture as the 540 cameras if not better thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toaster 0 Posted November 24, 2010 hi ive just bought and fitted the variofocal cameras they have the exact same picture as the 540 cameras if not better thanks guys I'm curious, what camera (and specs) did you replace with the new Super HAD CCD camera? Can you list the specs for your other camera's (or make, model, etc). I've been looking at different cameras online, and while the paper specs seem similar or the same, prices range from $40 to $400..... Any additional details would be greatly appreciated (by me!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted November 24, 2010 these are box cameras with a CS mount? If not, generally a fixed lens board (M12) wont fit a varifocal lens (m13/m14). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 26, 2010 well i bought my old cameras from an ebay store which where 'apparently' 540 tvl 3.6mm lense for around £40.00 and i compared these with the new 420 cameras with a vario lense, the picture was so much better and much more clear ps- the cameras are outdoor vandal domes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean00 0 Posted November 29, 2010 again, the specs on the so-called 540TVL camera were definitely "exagerated". Based on the effective pixels, it was a 330TVL-450TVL camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halam 0 Posted November 29, 2010 yeah there is no way of telling unless you go and and look at the cameras yourself or go to a genuine dealer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites