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What makes it so funny is the tards on that forum were all giving the guy an "atta boy" and a pat on the back...

 

That is all kinds of wrong on all kinds of levels. What idiots...

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At least dude thought to check whether it was legal... whether it's smart or not is a whole other matter.

 

Ghetto-fab, baby!

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At least dude thought to check whether it was legal...

 

I think he checked a chart for current rating. Line voltage outdoors on CAT5? I seriously doubt it's legal in the US.

 

Best,

Christopher

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Hmm, true too... but at least he DID check, even if he had no idea what he was looking at

 

Come on, just trying to give the guy SOME props, no matter how small...

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Come on, just trying to give the guy SOME props, no matter how small...

 

Yeah, I've seen worse.

 

Best,

Christopher

 

Really? Do tell!

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He made a 900ft extension cord with 2 pairs of cat5 wire. I have Ethernet over power line stuff and it will work but I would love to see the sparks fly if he plugged in a toaster. TOTALLY NOT LEGAL IN THE USA DO NOT DO THIS.

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1. Unlicensed electrical work

2. Running low and high voltage in the same conduit

3. Using low voltage cable to run line voltage

4. Wire gauge insuffecient for distance, at any load

5. Conduit depth below grade probably not suffecient, since it was laid for low voltage

6. Fire hazard

7. Safety hazard

8. Improper high voltage terminations (splicing extention cord)

9. Suggesting to the public that this a viable solution.

10. Bragging about your illegal and dangerous work on the internet

11. Liability?

12. Claiming to know anything of "networks" yet ignorant of Ethernet cable distance limitations

13. Missing ground wire

14. And the best one: "professionals" agreeing that this is also a clever solution and something they will try one day

15. Bidding a job that's way over your head in experience, knowledge, and skill.

16. Zero common sense.

 

Did I miss anything?

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Really? Do tell!

 

It was very tragic. A dad built a DIY electric fence to keep rabbits out of his garden. He used line voltage and runs of bare wire. His son was playing near the pool when his arm fell across a wire. I knew the boy's scoutmaster. It was a tremendous loss.

 

- Christopher

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if the product he used was legal in the US, that power and data over ethernet or whatever it is, and he is a licences electrician or whatever licence he needs for his state (Hawaii?), then isnt it legal?

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Posted a reply on that thread... will be interesting to read the reply. Lol

I was about to suggest we all sign up and weigh in

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if the product he used was legal in the US, that power and data over ethernet or whatever it is, and he is a licences electrician or whatever licence he needs for his state (Hawaii?), then isnt it legal?

It's tricky, because looking at everything involved, it COULD possibly construed as legal.

 

Basic cat5e insulation is typically rated for 300V.

"High voltage" under the National Electrical Code is defined as anything over 600V.

Together it could be argued that running 120V over UTP is acceptable...

 

Proper conduit for burial is another matter, though.

 

And it still sounds really ghetto.

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Basic cat5e insulation is typically rated for 300V.

 

24AWG is extremely fragile. Many alarm installers refuse to use CAT5 for alarms because it is so easy to nick during stripping which can lead to a break. Also, just because he put a small load at the end of 900 feet does not mean it should not be able to support a larger load for code compliance. Bottom line, I seriously doubt a building inspector would sign off on this.

 

Best,

Christopher

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Bottom line, I seriously doubt a building inspector would sign off on this.

Yeah but do they have those in Maui? Is his state laws different from the mainland or similar? Dont have them here. But we are a totally different country.

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Bottom line, I seriously doubt a building inspector would sign off on this.

Yeah but do they have those in Maui? Is his state laws different from the mainland or similar? Dont have them here. But we are a totally different country.

It's still part of the USofA; the National Electrical Code still applies.

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Forget about laws for a minute.... Do you think that is safe?

personally? i wouldnt go near it.

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