caribsecure 0 Posted January 30, 2011 Hi all, I'm planning to offer a hosted IP camera solution to my customers and want them to be able to login to their account and see both live and recorded data of their hosted camera's. What platform would suit my needs best? I've looked into Milestone, ExacqVision etc. and I'm enthousiastic about Exacq, but would I be able to set it up so that my end users see only their specific camera's securely? Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted January 30, 2011 Hi all, I'm planning to offer a hosted IP camera solution to my customers and want them to be able to login to their account and see both live and recorded data of their hosted camera's. What platform would suit my needs best? I've looked into Milestone, ExacqVision etc. and I'm enthousiastic about Exacq, but would I be able to set it up so that my end users see only their specific camera's securely? Thanks in advance! Hi caribsecure. it just seems to be a lot of work that is not neeed. you would have to put your customers system over the internet anyway so your customers only need to log into there systems direct. is this something you will be charging for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caribsecure 0 Posted January 30, 2011 Hi Tom, Thanks for your reply. Yes, the idea is to use a central NVR solution and connect customer's camera's to it over the internet using a VPN. The advantage for the customer would be that they don't need any hardware except the camera, and their footage is being stored in a secure location. We would charge the customer based on the number of camera's and number of stored recorded days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted January 30, 2011 Hi Tom, Thanks for your reply. Yes, the idea is to use a central NVR solution and connect customer's camera's to it over the internet using a VPN. The advantage for the customer would be that they don't need any hardware except the camera, and their footage is being stored in a secure location. We would charge the customer based on the number of camera's and number of stored recorded days. Hi if you are looking at setting up a cental monitoring station. then you need to look at the legal side of things first. it not a good idea to take full control of your customers camera. without having some sort of recording at there home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 30, 2011 Be prepared to explain to potential customers, as well, that their recorded video quality will be limited by their internet upstream speeds. If they have an ISP that still limits their upstream bandwidth to 128kbit, they're never going to see full-motion megapixel quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 30, 2011 Exacq or Milestone will not work for this. I have tried the whole "VSaaS" and it is a great idea but not very easy to sell or implement. We did a test run with 3 customers and a hosted setup. All three received letters from there ISP's stating they exceed their monthly bandwidth and would be shut down. If I where going to offer this setup (I tried to sell to customers but they had no interest in a $20 per month per camera fee) I would use Axis's hosted video solution. With Axis's solution you do not have to use VPNs or port forwarding everything is automatically but it is not cheap. http://www.axis.com/products/avhs/index.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 30, 2011 Also when the Internet drops or goes down, wont get any recorded video - could miss those important incidents. Its nice to offer it as an added service, but depending on it alone .. i dont know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 30, 2011 Also when the Internet drops or goes down, wont get any recorded video - could miss those important incidents. Its nice to offer it as an added service, but depending on it alone .. i dont know. With the Axis solution they have a local storage option. Also Rory keep in mind there is no DVR/NVR to steal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 30, 2011 With the Axis solution they have a local storage option. Also Rory keep in mind there is no DVR/NVR to steal. An $80 lockbox could help "prevent" that but just the same as they could steal the DVR/NVR they could cut the power or the internet or shoot the camera with a paint gun or even simpler just wear a mask. But the main thing was that Internet does drop and that is common and if there was no local storage at all then .. whoops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 30, 2011 Rory the cameras also have built in storage and the "lock box" will do nothing if there is a fire or water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 30, 2011 I wasnt talking about cameras with built in storage. Ofcourse a lock box is just to prevent someone from stealing/accessing it which is what I replied to. Anyway I would expect the internet to drop everyday, but not a fire or someone stealing the DVR which is a rare occurance - seen 1 DVR stolen in the ghetto in 10 years and that was in a broad daylight armed robbery (Wasnt my client). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caribsecure 0 Posted January 30, 2011 With regards to the dropping internet connection, does anyone have experience with the Milestone new Edge Storage feature? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 30, 2011 Get your wallet out, Edge Storage only works with the Corporate version right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caribsecure 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Is there any pricing info available online for Milestone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 31, 2011 Is there any pricing info available online for Milestone? Your looking at-least $2000 per server + $350 camera + $50 per camera per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caribsecure 0 Posted January 31, 2011 The $2000 and $350 are both one-time, and the $50 is per camera per year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 31, 2011 i would probably lean towards Axis if I had the choice, just because they have such great APIs and I love their streaming video technology. I have no idea what their video management software is like though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joearroyo 0 Posted December 16, 2012 Hi Carib How was it going with this; i was planning something similar in 2008 but in those times adsl was very expensive in colombia and bandwidht too small; now adsl is better here but still have the same problem; upload speed is poor (10% of total bandwidht); for example if you buy a adsl service of 1mb (most popular), you have 900kbps for down and only 100kbps for up; and this is the problem; you have only 10 kbyte for up This is not the only problem, there is ddns problem, ip cameras are always behind the router, so you need port forwarding, and you need ddns if you want to see the camera through internet, most of the times DDNS service have connection problems, even pay service. And im agree with other guys, milestone and exacqvision are not the best solution for this, maybe cameramanager or similar. See u! yHi I'm planning to offer a hosted IP camera solution to my customers and want them to be able to login to their account and see both live and recorded data of their hosted camera's. What platform would suit my needs best? I've looked into Milestone, ExacqVision etc. and I'm enthousiastic about Exacq, but would I be able to set it up so that my end users see only their specific camera's securely? Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voipmodo 0 Posted December 16, 2012 I would look at doing a hybrid hosted model if possible. Use either Axis or Mobotix so you will not need an NVR just local data storage. Then have the management in the cloud so they can access anywhere. You never sell the customer the local storage and have it be an edge device owned by you that is part of the service. If you go with mobotix, be sure to check out Qcampro which has some decent reporting features. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
