rory 0 Posted August 9, 2011 Dahua is a brand that has come up on several occasions. Is it a re-branded item like competitors? Are they user friendly? do they have atleast any of these features in a unit? - 16 channel - 30fps - hi-res (d1 or similar) - offsite monitoring - cellphone login access - ptz - HD is def. not an issue because you mentioned you fit 12tb in a standalone. It is the true manufacturer, and is resold by many other brands. If you want a Dahua DVR on this side of the globe typically you buy it under one of the other brand names. This is the Realtime D1 (4CIF really) model normally sold in the US http://www.dahuasecurity.com/product_det.aspx?ID=677&p=cpyzc&p_kind=3&c_kind=262&c_kind2=&c_kind3= The 2U units fit up to 8 SATA Drives (2TB each at this time), normally they are sold with a DVDRW taking up 2 spots, though it can be replaced with HDDs easily. They also have this new model but not sure when it will be available from resellers 24TB internal, 12TB using eSata, 960×576 pixels (for Effio cameras) http://www.dahuasecurity.com/product_det.aspx?ID=903&p=cpyzc&p_kind=3&c_kind=262&c_kind2=&c_kind3= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garyswine 0 Posted August 9, 2011 ulterior, The one I listed is the model of the servers I have. They have others; even a stand alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 9, 2011 Divide by 6 months, then double the results (15->30fps)... or about 1/3 the results he got there. Estimating an average of his 16-20TB result, which would be 18TB, you'd be looking at around 6TB. Do keep in mind that there's almost no visible difference between 15fps and 30fps unless you're dealing with fast-moving objects - see here for examples: http://www.panasonic.com/business/security/demos/PSS-recording-rates.html Thanks for letting me know what id be looking at in size of TB's. Re: 15 to 30fps, I've never seen a system running in 15fps to know that there isn't visible difference. Seeing a comparison really did help, which also helps me with my final selection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 9, 2011 ulterior, The one I listed is the model of the servers I have. They have others; even a stand alone. Thanks again, i will go and see them when i'm back in Toronto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted August 9, 2011 They also have this new model but not sure when it will be available from resellers24TB internal, 12TB using eSata, 960×576 pixels (for Effio cameras) the NEW range of Dahua is now at the top of the scale. not many standalones with the new dahua spec for the price. Full D1 30fps on all cameras. pc and mac viewing it is available in USA but under the qvis name. 14TB gives you realtime 30 days recording. but as most use motion as the norm setting 14TB will see you over 45/50 days footage. if you need more you can also add the new dahua storage box (plug and play in all new dahua) in 4-8 and 12TB http://www.qvissecurity.com/files/8678f997-5155-440f-bb7d-9e6f0120a1e3/QVISBLU.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 9, 2011 the NEW range of Dahua is now at the top of the scale. not many standalones with the new dahua spec for the price. Full D1 30fps on all cameras. pc and mac viewing it is available in USA but under the qvis name. 14TB gives you realtime 30 days recording. but as most use motion as the norm setting 14TB will see you over 45/50 days footage. if you need more you can also add the new dahua storage box (plug and play in all new dahua) in 4-8 and 12TB http://www.qvissecurity.com/files/8678f997-5155-440f-bb7d-9e6f0120a1e3/QVISBLU.pdf That's what i was looking for in a standalone, I gave them a call, and they mentioned many different system models, The one mentioned in the link says its coming soon, but they have something called the Apollo HD Pro, HD-PRO16-8TB-N http://www.qvissecurity.com/Catalogue/DVR/Apollo-HD-Pro/16-Channel (I think i can post this link?) (ill take it down if instructed) have you heard of this model before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted August 9, 2011 hi. yes there part number is apollo HD-PRO. 30fps..... remember to ask for 30fps @D1. as there is also an old HD 6fps @ D1. the apollo HD-PRO. is the same DVR as listed above in the pdf. but without the blu-ray. you can change that at a later date as blu-ray get more pop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted August 9, 2011 The HD-Pro is what I like to call the mack daddy DVR. Has pretty much everything you would want in a DVR. I sent you a PM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 9, 2011 hi. yes there part number is apollo HD-PRO. 30fps..... remember to ask for 30fps @D1. as there is also an old HD 6fps @ D1. the apollo HD-PRO. is the same DVR as listed above in the pdf. but without the blu-ray. you can change that at a later date as blu-ray get more pop. Thats amazing, thank you for the answers, i think I've narrowed it down to this unit for a standalone DVR from this manufacturer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 9, 2011 The HD-Pro is what I like to call the mack daddy DVR. Has pretty much everything you would want in a DVR. I sent you a PM. Got the PM, going to send you over a message now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 9, 2011 it is available in USA but under the qvis name. 14TB gives you realtime 30 days recording. but as most use motion as the norm setting 14TB will see you over 45/50 days footage. if you need more you can also add the new dahua storage box (plug and play in all new dahua) in 4-8 and 12TB http://www.qvissecurity.com/files/8678f997-5155-440f-bb7d-9e6f0120a1e3/QVISBLU.pdf No they dont have that DVR yet according to the site and the one in the link above is not it either, this is the one I was talking about: http://www.dahuasecurity.com/product_det.aspx?ID=903&p=cpyzc&p_kind=3&c_kind=262&c_kind2=&c_kind3= 24TB internal(3TB each drive), and additional 12TB using eSata. 960 pixels X ... its beyond D1, made for the Effio 960H chips. May be a while before it reaches the US and probably not cheap. The one you linked to is the regular Full D1 unit with a blue ray installed instead of a Dvdrw, neither of which i ever use anyway. in fact with that one, just remove the blue ray or dvdrw and have room for 8 HDDs which is 16TB. I havent found a client with a blank DVD in years now, and never even seen a blueray drive or disk on this island, its all USB and network backup now. One client buys 2GB disposable jump drives for under $5 each in the US and just gives those to the cops. The Full D1 unit is all most need anyway, unless one really wants the extra space or has 960H cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted August 9, 2011 this is the one I was talking about:http://www.dahuasecurity.com/product_de ... =&c_kind3= we orderes 3 DH-DVR0404/0804/1604HF-S-E and 3 of the new hybrid 16 analog 4 ip plug and play(which i have to say ) will be a good selling machine. at ifsec still not arrived. and i have been told that dahua may not sell the DH-DVR0404/0804/1604HF-S-E under any other name besides dahua. still have to wait till the come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted August 9, 2011 Very interested in the DH-DVR0404/0804/1604HF-S-E. Am wondering if this is going to be a new market trend with all these ridiculously high TV Line cameras coming out that cannot be fully utilized with regular DVR's. I just wonder if its really gonna be much of a noticeable difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Everybody was helpful on this topic, hope you can all help me on something else. Camera related viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26690 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulterior_motive 0 Posted August 16, 2011 First off, just wanted to give a special thank you to the following members, CHOPRAMO, Birdman Adam, Leohuangdi, Soundy, Campbell, rory, garyswine, edselrt, tomcctv, and SEANHAWG Allot of great brands were mentioned, allot of amazing options were thrown around, and with the help of one of the CCTVFORUM partners, i made a final decision on a unit which has all the bells and whistles that I've been looking for. http://www.qvissecurity.com/Catalogue/DVR/Apollo-HD-Pro/16-Channel/HD-Pro-16-Channel-4TB-HD-PRO16-4TB-N Thank you, Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted August 16, 2011 First off, just wanted to give a special thank you to the following members, CHOPRAMO, Birdman Adam, Leohuangdi, Soundy, Campbell, rory, garyswine, edselrt, tomcctv, and SEANHAWG Allot of great brands were mentioned, allot of amazing options were thrown around, and with the help of one of the CCTVFORUM partners, i made a final decision on a unit which has all the bells and whistles that I've been looking for. http://www.qvissecurity.com/Catalogue/DVR/Apollo-HD-Pro/16-Channel/HD-Pro-16-Channel-4TB-HD-PRO16-4TB-N Thank you, Rob Everybody was helpful on this topic, hope you can all help me on something else. the new winner 5 cameras that will fill your needs Camera related viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26690 Van-2608VFHWH - 600TVL, Winner 5 Features - • Back Light Compensation • High Resolution : 600 TV Lines • DNR3 • 512x Sens Up • Digital Zoom • 2.8-11mm Korea Auto iris lens • Controlled by OSD Menu • Dual power • Day and Night Selection • 8 Privacy Masking Zones • Motion Detection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
