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Honywell CCTV equipment has won my vote

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I have just completed a 16 analogue camera install, almost all cameras were Honeywell. They have all given excellent results first attempt, the colour is literally perfect. I was very impressed with the ease of setup. The weather was horrid so it was good that the installs went without a single hitch.

 

I was wondering what you chaps out there thought of the Honeywell Brand of CCTV cameras? I have been on this forum for a while now and don't think I heard anyone mention Honeywell CCTV equipment, which I thought was a bit strange since they work so well? There are for example setting presets for indoor, outdoor loading bay and numberplate. I didn't get to see the numberplate setting as i was gone after dark but imagine that is some kind of backlight compensation?

 

Any thoughts or comments?

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Tom is correct. CNB makes several cameras for Honeywell. They used to be somewhat of a player in the CCTV field but their prices are crazy compared to what you can get similar stuff for from other brands. They bought out a good CCTV company known as Ultrak a few years back hoping they would get a leg up in the industry but they failed on that attempt. Their equipment is not shabby by any means, just expensive.

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the problem with honeywell is price. the problem with honeywell is they dont know were they stand in the market place. you have honeywell security that sells equipment at a silly price. and then you have ADI which is another arm of honeywell. same products but cheaper

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Honeywell launched their security division branded under their own name to pair it up with their building automation unit to compete in the low voltage commercial and federal market (building controls, fire alarm, and security - cctv & access control).

 

Most controls companies have small fire & security units to complete the package, but their focus is on building automation. Difference is, Honeywell always wants every product they sell to be manufactured or branded by them, hence all the re-badged stuff. The other controls companies don't care what security system they're sticking in as long as it integrates with their BAS software.

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I have a few HCCM474M (Exview) that are not true day night but super sensitive despite the moderate ratings. Very small camera.

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I would be naive not to say blind, if I fail to understand that a Brand is made by another manufacturer.

That is the way it works now and so what?

 

Many brands we see these days are "re-badged" but why should that make a difference?

Surely what is important, is that the customer is happy and satisfied with a backup presence

to the end user and installer?

 

Those of you that think everything you buy is made by the manufacturer who's name appears on the

product are kidding yourselves, and so what does that matter?

 

Yes it's interesting to know, but beyond that, what difference does it make? Price is relative to the market, if you are satisfied with what you have then the investment is justified.

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I would be naive not to say blind, if I fail to understand that a Brand is made by another manufacturer.

That is the way it works now and so what?

 

Many brands we see these days are "re-badged" but why should that make a difference?

Surely what is important, is that the customer is happy and satisfied with a backup presence

to the end user and installer?

 

Those of you that think everything you buy is made by the manufacturer who's name appears on the

product are kidding yourselves, and so what does that matter?

 

Yes it's interesting to know, but beyond that, what difference does it make? Price is relative to the market, if you are satisfied with what you have then the investment is justified.

Yeah but we're talking something like $500 for a camera which can be had for $50 from the other manufacturer.

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Yeah but we're talking something like $500 for a camera which can be had for $50 from the other manufacturer.

 

 

WHAAAAAAAAA! As much as that? I haven't checked out the prices yet, but if you're right, then that is a real significant point.

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Honeywell is good equipment, but more than likely it was a CNB camera in which you could have gotten much cheaper from CNB. No big deal though if you are satisfied and still made money. Do you have a model # of the camera we can check it out.

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Rebadging doesn't matter in the least, you can brand all your cameras with your own company name if you want. Closer you get to manufacturer though, the cheaper it'll be, and more importantly, the more you'll know about the camera.

 

I've used a 48vdc din rail mount power supply from meanwell and altech which were both identical, down to the installation sheets. Since then I've noticed the exact one re-branded as a few other things... still trying to figure out who the real manufacturer is.

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Rebadging doesn't matter in the least, you can brand all your cameras with your own company name if you want. Closer you get to manufacturer though, the cheaper it'll be, and more importantly, the more you'll know about the camera.

 

I've used a 48vdc din rail mount power supply from meanwell and altech which were both identical, down to the installation sheets. Since then I've noticed the exact one re-branded as a few other things... still trying to figure out who the real manufacturer is.

 

meanwell

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I have used many Honeywell cameras and from the last 12 I purchased 10 of them have been replaced due to the colour changing to a RED tint. Based on this experence, we have stopped using them.

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Having seen/used some of their casino installations that are only a few years old... I'll pass on their recording end.

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@OP:

 

Hey Numb-nuts, what type of DVR did you use in that install? Also Honweywell?

 

I know that they re-brand from a few manufacturers, I know I've seen some of their equipment with other names on it. One thing I do know is that their qualification process is pretty strict. I think that's how they are trying to justify the price point, their hardware qualification process is pretty extensive.

 

Although it's sounding like that's not working for the cameras? That sucks.

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Having seen/used some of their casino installations that are only a few years old... I'll pass on their recording end.
Are you talking about the Honeywell Enterprise system? It all depends on the Integrators and the end user and their ability to work together. We've been using it for eight years and are still quite happy.

 

That said, long ago we chose to deploy our own server/storage/network/workstation choices. While it didn't endear us in Honeywell's eyes, it has made a world of difference, in my opinion. We chose Cisco Enterprise networking (4507R switch), which has been ultra-reliable. We also chose hp DL360 servers running Windows 2003R2 and hp workstations rather than the no-name servers and workstations Honeywell sells. We also chose fibre/sata RAID instead of the usual SCSI due to the many issues we experienced with SCSI cables, connectors and terminators in our initial deployment.

 

In addition, two of us attended Installer training sessions so we are basically self-supporting.

 

I suppose that many of the above would apply to other systems as well but when you consider our basic system is over eight years old and still reliably chugging away, we are absolutely satisfied with our choice.

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my dealer pricing on honeywell cameras is at least 2x of identical cameras, branded under different names. why pay more for the same thing?

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