JackOfAllTrades 0 Posted September 23, 2011 Has anyone used the Qvis Apollo HD 16-channel DVR? Any comments, good or bad? Qvis Apollo HD PRO-LITE 16 Channel Security DVR D1 Resolution 2 TB Hard Drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 23, 2011 There are several people on here have used either a Qvis or a Dahua DVR which are basically the same thing. Not sure if anyone has used the HD Pro-Lite but its basically the same DVR as the regular Apollo HD but with added Hardware features. I do know some folks on here have used the HD Pro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdowning 0 Posted September 25, 2011 There are several people on here have used either a Qvis or a Dahua DVR which are basically the same thing. Not sure if anyone has used the HD Pro-Lite but its basically the same DVR as the regular Apollo HD but with added Hardware features. I do know some folks on here have used the HD Pro. I have PM'ed you some info. Could you do the same if possible? I am also looking for a DVR and came across this one Thanks very much! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdman Adam 0 Posted September 25, 2011 Does anyone have some video showing these DVRs interfaces, browser interface, etc? I am thinking about getting one too, finally a proper DVR for the home. I would be getting the Samsung SRD-850DC, since I know the quality will be rock-solid. But the Qvis Apollo HD 8 (Dahua rebrand?) is literally half the price, with many (like all) of the same features, and the same framerate capabilities. Oh, wow. Sean - just looked at your website! You've just answered everything... I may be ordering soon. I guess one thing I wonder - is there any one thing that is particularly annoying about this DVR? Oh, and how many hard drive connections are there inside? I have another 1TB drive to add... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackOfAllTrades 0 Posted September 25, 2011 Besides doing full 30FPS D1 on every channel, the HD Pro is exactly like the HD Pro-Lite, correct? How vital is it to have the full 30FPS D1 on every channel? What does the Pro-lite do in regards to FPS? Also, can one remotely connect to the Pro-Lite DVR using an internet connection or does it require a website and special software? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted September 25, 2011 It supports 4 HDD max instead of 8 Re: Internet ... It uses ActiveX inside the IE browser - type in DVR IP/DDNS, installs activeX It has desktop software for PC, Mac, and Linux. See my previous post for image samples. Everything uses some special software, even inside a web browser without activeX, the browser itself is special software to begin with and limits what can be done. The desktop software is typically always going to be the most powerful option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 25, 2011 All of the Qvis Apollo DVR's use the same GUI and remote viewing software. The difference can either be found by hardware changes on the machine or differences in FPS. The Apollo HD is the consumer grade version. It holds one HDD. Does max 7FPS at D1 resolution on each channel and/or 30 FPS CIF on each channel. The Pro-Lite is one step up from the the Apollo HD and one step down from the Apollo HD Pro. The Pro-Lite is similar to the Apollo HD in operation except has a more robust hardware designs as follows: Upgradeable Hard Drive Space Options. 2 TB comes as standard. Optional upgrades to 4TB, 6TB, and 8TB CD/DVD Burner Individual Loop Outs for each channel in case you need to dedicate a camera to its own monitor. Esata Connection allows you to back up large amounts of video to a full size external hard-drive device. The HD Pro is exactly like the HD Pro-Lite except the HD Pro Can do full 30 FPS D1 recording on every single channel. Besides doing full 30FPS D1 on every channel, the HD Pro is exactly like the HD Pro-Lite, correct? Correct. How vital is it to have the full 30FPS D1 on every channel? Its nice to have but not vital. The only time it becomes vital is if you are recording fast moving objects or if you are required by law to have it. For example, some Casino's must record in 30 FPS D1 on every channel. Is it better than 7FPS? Yes of course it is. Is having 7 FPS inadequate for all scenario's? Absolutely not, most scenario's will be just fine with it. It just all depends on your budget, needs, and scenario's. What does the Pro-lite do in regards to FPS? Regarding each channel: 1-7 FPS D1 and/or 1-30 FPS CIF Also, can one remotely connect to the Pro-Lite DVR using an internet connection or does it require a website and special software? Kind of like Rory said, all you need is IE8 (internet explorer 8 ) to login remotely. You can also use the free PSS software. Without going into great detail, all you do is type in your WAN IP (Wide Area Network IP) into the browser bar in IE8 from a remote location and it pulls up your cameras and has all of your DVR controls. Another way is to go to a PC that has PSS installed on it and do the same thing. PSS is just a more customized and robust way to view remotely as compared to the Internet Explorer method. I guess one thing I wonder - is there any one thing that is particularly annoying about this DVR? The only thing that is annoying is whenever you play back several channels simultaneously, you cant FF each channel simultaneously. So what you have to do is select each channel by highlighting each channels box and then selecting FF. Its pretty minor and not a real big deal but thats about the only thing that I can think of that is somewhat annoying. Most folks dont even think anything about it. I have worked with other good DVR's in the past that usually have 5 or 6 more major things that I think is annoying so for this DVR to only have one minor thing such as this is pretty nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdman Adam 0 Posted September 25, 2011 So Apollo HD = 1 SATA connection. Apollo HD PRO (and Apollo HD PRO LITE?) has more than one connection? Do they made an Apollo HD PRO LITE with 8-ch, with more than one SATA connection? What is the frame-rate like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 25, 2011 Same frame rates on all prolites. They do make 8 and 4 ch versions of pro and prolites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackOfAllTrades 0 Posted September 27, 2011 Can you hook up TWO monitors to the Qvis Pro-Lite? One through the HDMI and the other monitor through the VGA port? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 27, 2011 Yeah. There are actually 4 outputs (3 main and 1 Spot) The 3 main are: HDMI Out VGA Out BNC Out HDMI and VGA give the best quality. Only use BNC if you have no other options. The spot is a BNC Output. The spot output is basically just a "switcher view" and can be sent to a public view monitor if you wish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdman Adam 0 Posted September 27, 2011 So can the spot be set to just show a grid of all the cameras? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 27, 2011 No it cannot. The BNC Spot Out can just be a full screen switcher view. You can of course use one of the 3 main connections as a spot to show multi-grid views, but just note that that is a main connection so any activity that you do on your DVR will also be shown on those so called "spots" as well. I.E. you could use the HDMI for one monitor and the VGA as another monitor and the BNC as another monitor, but on all 3 of those monitors they will have the same display. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted September 28, 2011 So can the spot be set to just show a grid of all the cameras? Spot monitor output is always a single view, designed for switching cameras. The name goes back to the Spot Monitors one used along side the main monitor. The main monitor would have the multiview and the spot would be sequencing cameras or perhaps have a single PTZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdman Adam 0 Posted September 28, 2011 I guess what I'm wondering is do I get to choose what I put out on the spot? Like can I choose just camera 3, or preferably do a grid of all 8? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted September 28, 2011 You can choose any camera to switch from one to the next, there is no multiview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted September 28, 2011 Rory is correct. There is no grid view on the spot out. The only grid views you will get are from the 3 main outs. The apot can only be used as a sequential switcher or you can choose to just have one camera show up. But if you are going to use the spot out, it really makes sense to use the sequential switcher as each channel on the Pro and Pro-Lite has a loopout that you can send to a dedicated monitor if you wish. Please note that their is no spot out on the regular Apollo HD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spe99 0 Posted October 6, 2011 Besides doing full 30FPS D1 on every channel, the HD Pro is exactly like the HD Pro-Lite, correct? How vital is it to have the full 30FPS D1 on every channel? What does the Pro-lite do in regards to FPS? Also, can one remotely connect to the Pro-Lite DVR using an internet connection or does it require a website and special software? Dahua DH-DVR0404/0804/1604HE-T pdf manual say: Recording Encoding Speed: Main Stream: D1/HD1/2CIF/CIF(1~25/30fps) Extra Stream: CIF/QCIF(1~25/30fps) Only 1 stream (main Stream) is 25/30fps ? and how much are other ones ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted October 6, 2011 All channels on the HE-T are 30 FPS D1. What they mean by main stream and extra stream is for web viewing. The main stream will have whatever the DVR is recording at. The extra stream is an optional stream for web viewing that allows you to see a lower quality image in case you have bandwidth issues viewing the main stream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdman Adam 0 Posted October 6, 2011 That brings up another question... With the samsung I've used it is very easy to set a maximum bandwidth that the DVR will send/receive. (I set it for 200kbps as the modem's upload speed was exactly that.) Also, the web-viewing resolution could be set for CIF, 4CIF, etc, at different quality levels. What all of that is possible with the Qvis's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted October 6, 2011 It has adjustable bit rate settings for the main stream and whatever bit rate you set it at, it will record and send that same bit rate over the network. If you find that the bit rate and/or resolution setting is too high for your bandwidth, you can always revert to the extra stream which you can set at CIF or QCIF. This way you will be viewing at a lesser stream while the DVR is still recording at D1 at a high bit rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyh747 0 Posted September 11, 2012 I know this thread is a little old but I'm also looking at the Dahua/Qvis DVRs. How do these DVRs compare in terms of quality with units like Avermedia and other higher end DVRs. Their functionality looks excellent but I'm concerned about the quality given the lower price brand. Any feedback from users and installers appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakesoundels 0 Posted September 11, 2012 I know this thread is a little old but I'm also looking at the Dahua/Qvis DVRs. How do these DVRs compare in terms of quality with units like Avermedia and other higher end DVRs. Their functionality looks excellent but I'm concerned about the quality given the lower price brand. Any feedback from users and installers appreciated. I have a qvis and have no problems whatsoever with playback/back-up quality. In fact I was able to provide police with daytime footage recently and the subjects were identified by other witnesses and later arrested. The camera is a CNB VBM 24VF and the subjects were about 15 feet away from the lens (and its relative setting). At night I have 75 Watt motion lights near the cameras; faces are not washed out because I also lowered the contrast after sundown ( a feature you can place on a timer for overnight applications (or daytime for that matter). The functionality IS excellent but, if not used to it, it takes a bit to get used too. Its remote software, PSS, is better for playback and use it everyday. Make sure you get the latest version for your Qvis especially since it has a playback timeline bar which makes it easier for spotting motion in a 24 hour period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyh747 0 Posted September 11, 2012 That sounds like it offers better quality than my current Averdigi Nano. The footage from that is less than ideal hence one of the reasons I'm changing. If the footage on the Qvis is good enough for the police then it's good enough for me! The fact it records at full D1 on each channel at 25fps is also impressive. Any comments on the iPhone app? The one impressive aspect of the Avermedia unit is the app which is very user friendly and works flawlessly. Any issues with the equivalent app for the Qvis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites