If you were going to install a 10x camera system for busines

[johnny916 0]

If you were going to install a 10-16 camera system for a business that wanted functionality like two way audio, siren alerts on the motion detection, internet alerts sent to their smart phones, flood lights to help with identify suspects at night, and complete internet monitoring, which would it be?

 

Their budget for the system is around $1700-$2000 for a system of 10x cameras initially (may add more later).

Building is 400' by 70' and the DVR will be located somewhere in the middle section.

All 10 cameras will be outdoor, 2 on each corner, 2 in the middle back area, approx. 15' high.

No need to include the flood light into consideration as I'll probably just grab those from Home Depot.

 

 

What are your top 3 favorite DVR companies??

[thewireguys 3]

Make sure your check the laws in your state before you do any audio.

[tomcctv 190]

Their budget for the system is around $1700-$2000 for a system of 10x cameras initially

 

 

hi. you would be best just walking away from a 10 camera system for that price. starting out in the industry you will be asked to do alot of qotes like that. just not worth your time in paperwork.

[chaz 0]

10 camera on a budget of $2000.00 would be a $200 per camera plus installation plus the dvr? just don't see where that budget number came from.

 

and by audio do you mean the ability to speak to tresspassers/perps from a remote location?

[Birdman Adam 0]

You can do it for $2k but it won't work well. Maybe $3-4k and you can buy proper cameras and a good brand of DVR.

 

I love Samsung's DVRs, Dahua is another good brand that gets you the same features for much less. Both these brands would do everything but the two-way audio. They can record audio though. Siren on motion can be done with outputs on DVR.

[Soundy 1]

Is this budget supposed to include installation? Depending on your labor rates, you're probably looking at $750-$1000 worth of labor alone to install 10 cameras in a facility that size. If you assume an average 200' wire run per camera, and $1/ft. for the wire itself (including your markup, I would hope, and depending on what price you can source it at), that's $2000 for wiring alone. Even cutting corners, you've probably used up that budget without even buying the equipment.

[SEANHAWG 1]

Both these brands would do everything but the two-way audio

 

Dahua can do 2 way audio.

 

But even if you went and bought a piece of junk 10 camera system at Costco, you arent looking at very much for profit if the budget is $1700.

[rory 0]

As others mentioned, what about installation cost?

$750-$1500 labour alone.

 

With the Dahua LE-A 16-ch (eg. QVis Apollo HD 16) or Dahua VGA DVR (eg. QVis Zeus 16) and $50 cameras you might be able to do it if you cut back on the labour a little.

 

Its going to be a very budget installation, they may want to change cameras later.

[johnny916 0]

Just for the system $2000 max budget for equipment only, I'll probably charge them another $1800 to install it in their 400 sq foot building.

 

"and by audio do you mean the ability to speak to tresspassers/perps from a remote location?"

 

They wanted the ability to do that, but it's probably not in their budget, so I think we can settle with an alarm on motion from the cameras.

[chaz 0]

your labor charge isn't too bad if you don't run into any problems but your not making any money on 10 cameras and a dvr for $2000.

 

the job should be 6to $7,000 minimum for labor and parts. don't give the job away unless you are just helping out a buddy

 

10 cameras at $100 to $200 each

 

a 16 channel dvr at $500 to $!000

 

16 channel power supply $70

 

siamese wire or cat 5 $100-$150

 

bnc or cat5 connectors $20

 

and these are costs. in one of your other posts you wanted to know what we charge for installation. this isn't a hobby for me or the 20 people that like a pay check every week.

 

make some money and be around when the customer calls you back in the future for additional work, a problem with the system or if your lucky a referral to a friend who needs a quality job done.

[NotoriousBRK 0]

If you were going to install a 10-16 camera system for a business that wanted functionality like two way audio, siren alerts on the motion detection, internet alerts sent to their smart phones, flood lights to help with identify suspects at night, and complete internet monitoring, which would it be?

 

Their budget for the system is around $1700-$2000 for a system of 10x cameras initially (may add more later).

Building is 400' by 70' and the DVR will be located somewhere in the middle section.

All 10 cameras will be outdoor, 2 on each corner, 2 in the middle back area, approx. 15' high.

No need to include the flood light into consideration as I'll probably just grab those from Home Depot.

 

The lack of budget, and high expectations make this sound like a recipe for disaster.

 

I would refer this job to my most-hated competitor.

[Soundy 1]

The lack of budget, and high expectations make this sound like a recipe for disaster.

 

I would refer this job to my most-hated competitor.

[thewireguys 3]

If you were going to install a 10-16 camera system for a business that wanted functionality like two way audio, siren alerts on the motion detection, internet alerts sent to their smart phones, flood lights to help with identify suspects at night, and complete internet monitoring, which would it be?

 

Their budget for the system is around $1700-$2000 for a system of 10x cameras initially (may add more later).

Building is 400' by 70' and the DVR will be located somewhere in the middle section.

All 10 cameras will be outdoor, 2 on each corner, 2 in the middle back area, approx. 15' high.

No need to include the flood light into consideration as I'll probably just grab those from Home Depot.

 

The lack of budget, and high expectations make this sound like a recipe for disaster.

 

I would refer this job to my most-hated competitor.

 

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[johnny916 0]

geeez no wonder no one else in my neighborhood has security cameras on their house, they're too expensive!

[rory 0]

The budget is fine, in fact it is way higher than what most will spend these days on CCTV ...

but its way too low for 10 cameras.

[Soundy 1]

The budget is fine, in fact it is way higher than what most will spend these days on CCTV ...

but its way too low for 10 cameras.

And especially in a facility that size.

[Sawbones 0]

The budget is fine, in fact it is way higher than what most will spend these days on CCTV ...

but its way too low for 10 cameras.

 

 

I think this is right-on.

 

People see the System-in-a-box deals at Costco and say "Hey! I can get a camera surveillance system for $400! Those security guys are ripping me off!"

 

Well... no... they're not. Expertise and quality aren't free. You can DIY it (I've done so), but the learning curve once you get past the screws-and-glow-rods phase of the job is significant. I think I've changed out every camera in my house at least once before getting exactly what I wanted (and I have a 16-camera system)

 

But what the hell... I like to tinker, and I learned a lot... so no loss.

[chaz 0]

The point Sawbones made about how he has changed out every camera in his house before he got it right is the point i'm trying to make

 

if you are a Diy'er or tinkerer as Sawbones says he is doing all of this work and making changes is great and you learn alot.

 

if you are installing this system for a fee for a customer, know what your doing and do it right the first time for the right amount of money.

 

you have three threads going on the forum for the same 10 camera job.

domes vs. bullets

how much to charge

and this general one.

 

experiment and try out all of the on your house not a paying customer

 

an electrician who works for a local electrical contractor recently called me and said a customer wanted him to do a side job of installer cameras

 

what does he do? he doesn't do the research or invest his time in learning about all of the different equipment available instead he calls me and wants pricing and recommendations on what to put in for cameras and a dvr. i gave him a price for the equipment of 5 cameras and a dvr of $2000

his customer wants to spend half of that

i told him good luck

[thewireguys 3]

^^^ agreed.

 

I strongly recommend you order some cameras and DVRs to test out at your office/house before to make promises to customers you don't know if you can keep. The best form of advertising is word of mouth and if you piss of your first costumer you will have a long road ahead. Remember 1 happy customer tells 1 friend, 1 unhappy customer will tell 10 friends.

Edited September 25, 2011 by Guest

[Birdman Adam 0]

I can definitely attest to wireguy's point as well. Just the bit of IT & CCTV work I've done has amounted to all sorts of people asking for my help (and a good chunk of money). Word of mouth really does work well!!