DataAve 0 Posted August 5, 2005 Anyone know the difference between the FlexidomeXT 1462/21, the 1461/20 and the 1464/20? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 5, 2005 Data, This is a Vandal Resistence Mini-Domes series and they all have 1/4" 470TVL cameras and the only difference is the lenses with different F stops as follows: LTC 1462/20 - Bosch LTC 1462-20 VANDAL RESISTANT CAMERA FLEXIDOME XT 1/4" 470 TVL COLOR 12VDC-24VAC 60Hz. w-2-4mm LENS LTC 1461/20 - Bosch LTC 1461-20 VANDAL RESISTANT CAMERA FLEXIDOME XT 1/4" 470TVL COLOR 12VDC-24VAC 60Hz w-2.8-6mm F1.4 VARIFOCAL AI LENS LTC 1464/20 - Bosch LTC 1464/20 VANDAL RESISTANT CAMERA FLEXIDOME XT 1/4" 470 TVL COLOR 12VDC/24VAC60Hz, w/4-9mm F1.4 VARIFOCAL AI LENS Here is the PDF formated spec sheet that gives even more details: http://reliablecctv.com/alt_pdfs/Bosch%20LTC%201464-20%20VANDAL%20RESISTANT%20CAMERA%20FLEXIDOME%20XT%201-4%20inch%20470%20TVL%20COLOR%2012VDC-24VAC%2060Hz.%20w-4-9mm%20F1.4%20VARIFOCAL%20AI%20LENS.pdf Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted August 5, 2005 Thanks a million, bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 5, 2005 Data, anytime! Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted August 6, 2005 These puppies will look nice around the house. I have hooked up to a spot monitor to test and are pretty nice. MetzLyov, how is the view at night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 6, 2005 These Mini-Domes are still using 470TVL color cameras, so at night you will have grainy picture if you do not give enouph light... Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Actually Metz, these domes now are daynight domes as standard, they all have nightsense, they even have 540TVL now http://www.boschsecuritysystems.com/au/en/start/load.htm?news&cms={site:au;ID:com1069} http://www.boschsecuritysystems.com/uk/en/start/load.htm?news&cms=%7bsite:uk;ID:uk1053e%7d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 7, 2005 yall need to stop playing and tell bosch to send me one to test Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 7, 2005 rory, they are not as good as the XF's...buy an XF daynighter and if you don't come back and tell me it's awesome I will leave this forum for good!! of course yo do have to be honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcs 0 Posted August 7, 2005 ill 2nd that cctv aus I was amazed when i saw it last week, it does the job but a bit x'y thats all but if it does the job then they have to pay for the product that does the job best... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Data, yup, Bosch changed bunch of things and looks like this mini-dome comes with the specs as described from our friend in Australia... Shame on Bosch - Can not not belive that not only theh did not inform us about these changes (including major changes on their Envrodomes), but there are bunch of products that also have their pricing changed... Their answer? Well, someone screwed up and forgot to send e-mail not only to us, but many of our counterparts.... It is their loss, not ours! Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted August 7, 2005 These have the NightSense. They also have a sticker on side stating 540TVL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Yup, I see it... As I said, shame on Bosch in not having this information available when they it is available... And yes, since it comes with NightSense, then it should work for your application... Sorry man... Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DataAve 0 Posted August 7, 2005 How can I test NightSense? Don't say turn off lights. What I mean is, can I see the chip or look on the board to see the NS Technology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Data, it contains day/night chipset, but do not expect the same results as their XF series, or Pano CP484 series results... Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Agreed Metz, you may want to register to our Newsletter service, it will email update you. Example Bosch enhances its Dinion and Flexidome XT cameras • 540 TV lines provides increased horizontal resolution for even clearer images. • Best-in-class imaging quality to meet all CCTV surveillance requirements. • Ideal for high-resolution monitoring in Retail, Traffic, Number plate reading, Casino's, etc. Bosch expands IP Network product line with two- -multi-channel CCTV encoders. • Allows up to 8 CCTV cameras to be viewed over a network each with independent, simultaneous video streams at 1 to 30 fps with dual streaming. • Optional bi-directional audio as a synchronised video/audio stream. • Dual streaming allows recording at 1fps and 25 fps real-time for live viewing. New lower cost Plena Voice Alarm System. • Ideal for factories, offices, shops, hotels, shopping centres, leisure facilities, schools etc. • Meets requirements of IEC60849. Bosch adds new IP network video products for CCTV. • New dual-streaming video encoders - plus new VIP XD decoder. • Allows seamless integration with existing analogue systems. • MPEG-4 compression reduces data storage and system costs. • Real-time DVD-like video quality - with frame rates from 1 to 30 fps. Download the latest Training Programme The training courses that we offer are designed to give you a full overview of our products and many of our courses have 'hands - on' time with the products so you will leave with the confidence you need to specify, promote and install Bosch Security Systems equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetzLyov 0 Posted August 7, 2005 We have been with Philips and now with Bosch for over 10 years. It is only in the recent 6 months that they are slowing down on information and specially newer pricing when available... My local Bosch rep (who works for Bosch) could not give me a good explanation for this... Levon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 8, 2005 I can, it is called over expected growth due to high demand, it is no excuse, however as new comers to the industry they probably did not realise how much demand there would be for their products and it takes time to get more people etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 8, 2005 sum ugly cameras, all i can say on this subject.... going by the picture of it in their advertising etc, if it looks diff in real then i take it back they need to think ... redesign .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcs 0 Posted August 9, 2005 thats right... rory i dont know what your on about dude i dont really wanna get a stiffy over the look of a cam man if it does the job well if it looks like a ufo who gives a... they are good looking cameras and they do the job.. more then id say bout half the crap around unless its got sony ccd or sony xview/had then i wouldnt touch it... cmos, 380 tvl and everfocus is crap.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Extreme CCTV dude. knocks the bosch dome off the wall .. also, they arent strong enough for what i need .. i need 5 year unbreakable guarantee with built in voltage regulators, wall mount, and best support in the industry - extreme CCTV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 10, 2005 We are actually the exclusive distributors of Extremes full range here in Australia, but had no Idea there was a 5yr warranty, will check this out as I doubt it... it is possible that every country has different OEM extreme gear. MCS dont stress bout Rory, it's his job to always disagree with me, and mine to always be the salesman...welcome to the forum! I actually like the look of the domes, they do look better in real life, but I have been told my taste is in my but so go figure! If vandal proof and 120pounds of pressure resistant aint enough, then, hell I'd be moving residence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 10, 2005 never said it wasnt a good product, just doesnt do what i need it to, for the jobs im selling. I have to leave those other jobs to everyone else, i get called in for the extreme jobs. By the way, no Bosch USA rep has contacted me yet, they arent on the ball like you aussies yah know ))) Besides i think they dont care about the bahamas as its not the US ... plus there is already 1 bosch seller here, a locksmith company with very little knowledge of CCTV, we are cleaning their jobs up all the time. They use good products just use inferior cable, and lack of proper installation knowledge. Bosch has some good PTZs and Box cameras now, but for domes, they have like 1 ??? I dont even use GE for domes as no selection either .. extreme and wizKid all the way for domes, and even box cameras now with their new MX and CX technology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted August 10, 2005 You could contact them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 10, 2005 You could contact them been there done that .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites