Numb-nuts 1 Posted October 22, 2011 I discovered this story about a pensioner that decided to do something to protect his community and put up his own CCTV cameras. Now his landlords want him to remove them. Link to the story, He made the mistake of NOT getting their permission first. BIG MISTAKE! Anyone got any thoughts on the story My main thought having seen the picture is hasn't he got any ladders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 23, 2011 its a messy install! look at those wires... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nDAlk90 0 Posted October 23, 2011 Very messy install. He should take them down and put up the cameras inside bird houses. More discreet. As far as I know "YOU HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON PUBLIC DOMAIN OR AREAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted October 23, 2011 I'm on the side of the housing company - not only does the install degrade the appearance of the property, it's just plain common courtesy to ask the permission OF THE PROPERTY OWNER before putting up ANYTHING on the outside of the building, especially if there may be any question of its legality, since the property owner could be held liable. Likewise, there may be a question of safety with a job like that - not just the wiring, but who knows how solidly it's mounted? If that thing falls off and bonks someone on the head... again, the building owner can be held liable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 23, 2011 yeah. installing without property owners permission is one thing, refusing to take it down when asked to is another. he should take them down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted October 23, 2011 Honestly, the fact it's a CCTV camera isn't even relevant - the same thing would probably apply to putting up hanging pots, a TV antenna, an awning, new lighting... etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Numb-nuts 1 Posted October 23, 2011 I suspect it was precisely that it is a CCTV camera that the Landlord asked him to remove it. The story mentions that people have put up satellite dishes and have not been asked to take those down. The idea of CCTV just frightens some people. He should have asked permission first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heckufaguy 0 Posted October 29, 2011 I suspect it was precisely that it is a CCTV camera that the Landlord asked him to remove it.The story mentions that people have put up satellite dishes and have not been asked to take those down. The idea of CCTV just frightens some people. He should have asked permission first. Eh, the beauty of CCTV is not advertising it. Often, when completing an install, homeowners are amazed how their overt system is almost invisible to the eye without being told what to look for. Eaves and overhangs make for great camera locations, are often in the shade line, and don't make things look ugly. This guy could have been more discreet, maybe tucked the wires up and out of the way, and nobody would have been the wiser. He's got rules he needs to follow, just be a little smarter next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sawbones 0 Posted October 29, 2011 If he'd made it less of an eyesore, perhaps they'd have cut him some slack. As it stands, I would want that on my building either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nDAlk90 0 Posted October 29, 2011 I would tell him to clean up the wires. If my building was in a high crime area I would appreciate a person taking security measures for the building and the community. As it stands, I would want that on my building either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 29, 2011 just noticed, all three screws of that camera go into mortar. VERY shoddy install. just... erw. i could do and did do better when i was 7 years old... this is the picture (so people don't have to keep clicking the link) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sawbones 0 Posted October 29, 2011 I would tell him to clean up the wires. If my building was in a high crime area I would appreciate a person taking security measures for the building and the community. As it stands, I would want that on my building either. Oh, I'm with you... I have cameras on every building I own... but mine actually look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nDAlk90 0 Posted October 29, 2011 Cut the guy some slack... He is a senior citizen. When you get to be his age you will be happy just to get on a ladder. just noticed, all three screws of that camera go into mortar.VERY shoddy install. just... erw. i could do and did do better when i was 7 years old... this is the picture (so people don't have to keep clicking the link) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Screw them, he pays rent (??) If anything they should be thanking him, and if they are concerned then send someone to cleanup the wiring, he paid for the system they should be paying for. Otherwise, sue the losers for lack of proper security. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 30, 2011 just noticed, all three screws of that camera go into mortar.VERY shoddy install. just... erw. i could do and did do better when i was 7 years old... When you get older you will quickly realize how painful it is to do what seems like the simplest thing when one is younger. You might have a bad back alone just from all the climbing on ladders drilling into red bricks. Besides, maybe the mortar is easier to repair than the brick if he had to move it? I dunno, here its all finished cement over the brick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Cut the guy some slack. no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nDAlk90 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Ok.... When you are older... well see how well you install cameras. " title="Applause" /> Cut the guy some slack. no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Ok.... When you are older... well see how well you install cameras. " title="Applause" /> i will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Ok.... When you are older... well see how well you install cameras. " title="Applause" /> i will do. things you do to your body when you are younger, catch up with you when you get older. I got injuries from my 20s that are now just taking full effect. back then I walked away from them like it was nothing. its part of life. besides, do you really want to be installing cameras when you are older? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 30, 2011 besides, do you really want to be installing cameras when you are older? not really, i'll get my grandson or someone to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sawbones 0 Posted October 30, 2011 Ok.... When you are older... well see how well you install cameras. " title="Applause" /> Cut the guy some slack. no. Wait... I'm in my 40's... how old are you, Rory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Wait... I'm in my 40's... how old are you, Rory? Edited October 30, 2011 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 30, 2011 the sun sounds like a horrible place. NHS <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 30, 2011 the sun sounds like a horrible place. NHS <3 Well depends, I heard they beat up and kill old men in the UK (aka the london riots) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted October 30, 2011 the sun sounds like a horrible place. NHS <3 Well depends, I heard they beat up and kill old men in the UK (aka the london riots) i didnt hear about that yeah. we have alot of chavs (council housing and violent) which are scum. and the police are too pussy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
